What has made you Angry Today???????

[Mickhead]

Looks like you will all have to put up with me for the foreseeable future after all. What follows is a copy & paste from my facebook page this morning. Grrrrrrr!

A follow on from my last excited & optimistic post about buying the OKA. Another story follows, not the one I wanted nor expected. It is a story of huge disappointment, anger & now after little more than 24 hours to process what happened a sense of relief mixed with the yet to dissipate disappointment of a lost dream we had put so much energy into. This no doubt will become another lengthy post, I believe writing it may be cathartic & helpful to me, & after my previous post I feel the need to explain why I am back in Mutchilba today & not in Taree delivering the OKA to the chap who was going to undertake the transmission change etc for us. It's been another rollercoaster ride. Hold tight & read on!

As planned I flew from Cairns down to Brisbane on Monday to pay for & pick up the OKA to drive it the 600kms to Taree, NSW . It was a nervous time, not because of the amount of money I would be paying or because of any fears about the vehicle or whether I was doing the right thing, but because of the severe weather warnings of dangerous winds & flooding along the whole of the route I needed to drive. Some places had already had up to 600mm in a day, & similar forecast to continue at the time I'd be driving. I was confident about the vehicle & about the seller.

The seller met me as arranged, in Brisbane, & took me to his home where I would spend the night sleeping in the OKA before driving it away the following morning. As on my previous visit I was made welcome & we spent a number of hours going through the OKA to familiarise me with everything as well as eating together & enjoying each other;s company. At mealtime I asked to see the the certificate of Electrical safety for the vehicle's 240v systems he had agreed to get, & was disappointed when , without apology, he told me he had not had it done. Worse was the fact he had not obtained the legally required 'Certificate of Inspection' (the Qld version of a heavy vehicle Roadworthy - or MOT for UK readers) , but "not to worry" he said I can still get it in time for you leave in the morning as planned". This was a relief as I had flight onward from Taree booked & paid for. Half an hour later following a phone call he showed me an email on his phone from the certifier with an attached Certificate & a note to say it had been electronically lodged with the Qld transport authority. Phew! Without this transfer of ownership cannot occur. Later that evening he printed out a copy for me, & I checked it over at about 10pm, just as I was waiting for my laptop to boot up in order for me to transfer funds to him.

My heart sank when I noticed it had an engine number different to what was on the engine in the vehicle, & we quickly reached an impasse with me stating I would not be prepared to risk making payment without such details being correct. He suggested that I drive the vehicle away the following morning but withhold payment until he obtained a correct certificate. I thought this exceptionally trusting & generous of him, but also wondered might happen if a problem arose with the certificate. I had reason to worry as the incorrect certificate was obviously 'dodgy' if for no other reason than it had been sent on the basis of emailed info from the owner, not from an actual inspection. The engine number shown was apparently for the original 4 cylinder motor , even though the certificate stated it had 6 cylinders (as per the all important replacement American import Cummins motor). But still I was intent on keeping to plan to drive the OKA away in the morning.

The seller emailed the certifier & said he would follow this up with a phone call early next morning.

I had a restless night in the OKA, which afforded me time to look at many things in more detail. I laid & mentally constructed the internal modifications I wanted to make.

First thing in the morning I was greeted with "Come & have a cuppa, we need to talk". The tone used was not encouraging & I was immediately concerned. As I walked to the house I note that his wife who had been very hospitable the night before appeared to be avoiding eye contact with me & didn't say a word. I imagined that a correct safety certificate may not be forthcoming until later in the day & resigned myself to a much longer drive in one hit, through the wild weather than I had planned on.

My cup of tea was handed to me with the words "I don't think you are the right sort of person to be an OKA owner". This was out of the blue, I was gobsmacked & confused. I have come to realise that this was an attempt to hold me responsible for the decision that was yet to come. I spluttered & gasped my lack of understanding & attempted to reasonably contradict him. I learned that he had been in contact with the certifier who informed him that the only way to change the certificate was for him to attend a Transport dept office in person & that it was highly likely that they would wish to also sight & inspect the vehicle. At this point I saw my well laid plans disappearing out of the window, but even at this point had not contemplated what was to come!

Out of his shirt pocket the seller produced bundles of hundred dollar notes & a piece of paper. "Here is your deposit & I'll pay for your flight back to Cairns, here are flights available today." I was still spluttering, unwilling to accept that everything I'd planned & hoped for was coming to an end right now. He made it clear he had no intention to present the vehicle to the Transport dept, I thought at the time he meant that day, as he had 'a lot on' but now I think he probably meant 'at all'. As the realisation dawned anger trumped disappointment (although I remained relatively civil, I believe I only used the 'F' word once!). I reminded him of all the costs I had incurred on the basis of the sale agreement we had made, including several flights to & from NSW to check out & drive other OKA's with the Cummins/Allison combo I hoped to get fitted, & to meet the chap who would do the work face to face to discuss & agree on the process. The seller responded with 'how much' & when told simply pulled more cash from his shirt pocket & handed it to me to cover those costs. Truly I was reeling, trying to make sense of the situation.
As I sat at his kitchen table, he went to another room, returning with a paid for flight booking, the plane departing in a little over 90 minutes time & us 45 minutes drive from the airport. "Get your bags" he said, we don't have much time.

As we drove, he seemed far less tense than he had done at the kitchen table. I was angry & felt like telling him so, but instead asked him how he was feeling. "Relieved" he said. "Relieved?" I asked. "Yes, I've been worrying that sooner or later you would discover that the Cummins motor is in fact a Chinese copy" says he. This admission that he had been prepared to deceive me was made in the complete absence of any apology. In fact no apology had been forthcoming about things he had agreed to do & not done, or indeed anything else. I expect he had realised that his offer for me to take the vehicle to Taree prior to payment would see the engine deception discovered as soon as it was looked at there by someone familiar with the Cummins motors (unlike me). All was conducted in a friendly manner - very disconcerting. My gut feeling was that as a successful & wealthy businessman, that anything that didn't fit for him was expendable including people, & that apologies were probably something not in the businessman's repertoire. Such things most likely only represented something never contemplated - an admission of guilt.
The two hour flight & 90 minutes drive back to Mutchilba gave me time to begin processing what had happened, later discussion with Julie & friends helped. I turned over every detail I could recall about the affair & about the vehicle again & again. But the story had so many inconsistencies I struggled to gain the certainty I needed about why this had happened. I even started to blame myself even though I couldn't pinpoint what I had been responsible for. It was a pretty 'shit' experience.

Finally this morning I have reached an understanding which fits. Although I am unwilling to detail all the snippets of info which have led to this understanding for fear of both boring you to tears & risk of litigation from the wealthy seller, I am now confident in my belief.

Unlike my home state of Victoria (& most other states I believe), where vehicle modification approvals are carried out by well qualified motor engineers in a very regulated system, in Queensland any motor mechanic with 10 years experience in the trade can apply to become a 'certifier'. Many have & there are a plethora of one man mobile services offering Certificates of
inspection & Modification plates. A quick search on Google reveals that dodgy certificates & plates are not uncommon.

I now believe that the significant modifications on the OKA (Engine replacement, GVM upgrade, home made fuel tank, change in seating & possibly more) have probably been subject to the same dodgy practice as the Certificate of Inspection, quite possibly through the same certifier. All stuff waiting to 'bite' me down the track when I went to re-register the vehicle in Victoria. I believe the seller knowing that things were at the point of unravelling if an inspection at the Department were to occur, felt 'on a hook' & that the only way to extricate himself from that situation was to get rid of me quickly. And that is just what he did.

I remain angry which is probably important in coming to terms with the 'lost dream'. Some of that anger is with myself for having allowed the 'dream' to blind me until a very late stage of the proceedings, in particular that it was the seller's decision not to proceed, rather than mine. However I do take some solace in the fact that however it happened, I 'dodged a bullet'. If the truth had come to light after I'd handed over the money the situation would have been far worse.

What a bastard! Stuff like this shakes one's faith in humanity, but I expect the trust to return with time. Friends have been good

Geez mate, was that the black oka from coolum beach?

[Cuppa]

Geez mate, was that the black oka from coolum beach?

No Mickhead, this one was white & right in Brisbane.

[katwoman]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/102.jpg
Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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[Rossco]

Yikes , shes fuc#ed. . [emoji107]

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[NissanGQ4.2]

Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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Should of just plugged it :)

[PeeBee]

Went out to make and install the 6mm packers for the rear of the bonnet. All straight forward, propped the bonnet, fitted the packers, then bonnet would not latch shut. Tried adjusting the catch, NUP. So took them out and made up a set of 3mm thinking 'maybe' the bonnet is just too high, same result. Took the packers out, bonnet still won't latch shut. Mechanism seems to be jamming about the time it hits the striker bar in the bonnet, cannot get it to engage locked with a screw driver pushing against the spring - maybe it has died with perfect alignment to my job - any ideas? 4 hours wasted, not happy and in worse position than I started.

[Rossco]

Silly question but worth asking, hasn't latched itself in the process and need releasing again??. .

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[PeeBee]

Silly question but worth asking, hasn't latched itself in the process and need releasing again??. .

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I have actuated the lever from the cabin over 20 times, but it all looks to be sitting in the right position, the 'mouth' of the catching tongue looks like it is triggered to receive the bonnet 'peg' then be driven down to allow the catch to rotate. The actual catch is partially closed i guess is a better description - i will have another look tomorrow, not going near the bastard again today

[PeeBee]

Couple of snaps, with the bonnet release already activated. Is this the neutral or ready to close position of the bonnet catch?826608266182662

[rusty_nail]

Have you tried manually actuating it mate? The second pic looks incorrect but the third looks right to me

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[PeeBee]

Have you tried manually actuating it mate? The second pic looks incorrect but the third looks right to me

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Nic, the second shot is the rear view of the first shot, so you think this is partially closed? the third is just the catch bar in the bonnet for reference. I can push the catch downwards, but not so the throat of the catch itself is empty. I was hoping somone could check and post a photo of the catch on an operating bonnet catch for reference? Its a total mongrel to push the plate downwards, and going backwards looks impossible - maybe its faulty?

[Winnie]

If nobody gets pics for you tonight Phil I will grab some when we get home tomorrow.

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[PeeBee]

If nobody gets pics for you tonight Phil I will grab some when we get home tomorrow.

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Thanks Chris, totally over it right now. Such a bloody simple job turned to custard and simply can't find the issue - no doubt staring me right in the face. The 6mm packers under the hinges look nice and discrete when the bonnet is closed, however there is a nice little heat vent generated which will help my under bonnet temps for sure. was going to do this quick job then knock off the bilge fan installation also, but now back at square 1 after the day. Bugger bugger.....

[rusty_nail]

Nic, the second shot is the rear view of the first shot, so you think this is partially closed? the third is just the catch bar in the bonnet for reference. I can push the catch downwards, but not so the throat of the catch itself is empty. I was hoping somone could check and post a photo of the catch on an operating bonnet catch for reference? Its a total mongrel to push the plate downwards, and going backwards looks impossible - maybe its faulty?Here is a pic of my Navara, hopefully it helps matehttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/105.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/106.jpg

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[rusty_nail]

One of the gu for.good measurehttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/107.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/108.jpg

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[PeeBee]

Thanks Nic,

I think that is essentially what i have, but for some reason the bonnet hits the striker plate and does no go downwards enough to allow the catcher to close down on the bonnet bar - I cannot find any interference - baffling but will be simple. i have pulled the unit off the car and can't fault it. I will have another 'mum' look tomorrow and hope the culprit will be discovered. The bonnet is back in place without the spacers as well and still not closing, nothing left on the side boards or obvious.

[rusty_nail]

Thanks Nic,

I think that is essentially what i have, but for some reason the bonnet hits the striker plate and does no go downwards enough to allow the catcher to close down on the bonnet bar - I cannot find any interference - baffling but will be simple. i have pulled the unit off the car and can't fault it. I will have another 'mum' look tomorrow and hope the culprit will be discovered. The bonnet is back in place without the spacers as well and still not closing, nothing left on the side boards or obvious.Ok, can suggest you try inserting something similar to the rod, like a larger screwdriver and see if the action works? Then perhaps remove bump stops on each corner and work back from there? Maybe even see if you set your phone camera to record and close the bonnet to see what it is doing?

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[Winnie]

I remember having a similar issue not very long ago. It confused me for 5 mins and in the end I think I just slammed it shut harder. I don't actually know what went wrong but it has only ever played up that once and been fine since.

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[Rossco]

Here's a pic of mine with bonnet already up. . http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/110.jpg

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[growler2058]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/102.jpg
Murphy’s law
5kms from home, 11 at night, have to be up at 3am for work.
FFS [emoji849]


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Ahhh what a sh1t @#$*

[Bidja]

PeeBee

Phil have attached a couple of pic of 08 GUIV Fwd/Aft, a bit different in the way brkt stops latch from rotating when in open position but your latch looks correct to accept bonnet U bar to lock / closed.

I raised rear of mine 5mm a while back with no imapct on latch function. May be a bit of Plasticine or similar to check alignment or maybe masking tape.

Hope pic helps.

Edit_notice U have lots of pic to choose from lol

[PeeBee]

Thanks guys, appreciate the effort and response. I will have a crack at it later today after my patience runs out with my work load for the mine. It may well be I need to slam it harder, but the last drop was 10" and it still seemed to be stopping. i will try the plasticine - think we have some in the cupboard?

[PeeBee]

Here's a pic of mine with bonnet already up. . http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/110.jpg

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That looks just what i have, but won't slide around to engage the bonnet latch.

[pearcey]

Hey there Pee Bee, hows it going.
Just make sure that the safety catch is not causing the problem. It may be slightly miss aligned.

[PeeBee]

Hey there Pee Bee, hows it going.
Just make sure that the safety catch is not causing the problem. It may be slightly miss aligned.

Thanks Pearcey, it has to be something simple and stupid. After 3 hrs plus dropping the bonnet and swapping out packers and getting back to where i started, my brain was not linking with my eyes i think!

[PeeBee]

OK, after another 2 hrs jinking around it appears the mounts of the bonnet catch have bent/twisted and the catch is bending downwards, so the solution appears to first bend the legs back and then slightly elongate the mount holes to lift the assy up and allow the catch to engage. I think there may be a very slight interference with the s/c case, so the scoop opening needs a poofteenth shaved off. Finished for the day, frustration level exceeded.

[PeeBee]

So, that didn't work either, the ears of the catch mechanism are snagging on the cavity in the bonnet - looks like the entire cross strut in front of the radiator is twisted and cocking the catch over. So, I zipped down to the wreckers and bought another one. Bugger me,. still not closing. I have put 10mm of packers under the arms and the gap at the rear of the bonnet looks ok. I just need to resolve the catch - tomorrow, truck and i are not talking right now. What has changed since I closed it earlier this week and now - no idea.

[rusty_nail]

Would love to offer a second set of eyes mate but I have the Christmas party tomorrow.


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[Mickhead]

These are finally making sense.. all these years I thought they were a POS 😀82674

[NissanGQ4.2]

So, that didn't work either, the ears of the catch mechanism are snagging on the cavity in the bonnet - looks like the entire cross strut in front of the radiator is twisted and cocking the catch over. So, I zipped down to the wreckers and bought another one. Bugger me,. still not closing. I have put 10mm of packers under the arms and the gap at the rear of the bonnet looks ok. I just need to resolve the catch - tomorrow, truck and i are not talking right now. What has changed since I closed it earlier this week and now - no idea.

This is for a GQ PeeBee?

[mudski]

So, that didn't work either, the ears of the catch mechanism are snagging on the cavity in the bonnet - looks like the entire cross strut in front of the radiator is twisted and cocking the catch over. So, I zipped down to the wreckers and bought another one. Bugger me,. still not closing. I have put 10mm of packers under the arms and the gap at the rear of the bonnet looks ok. I just need to resolve the catch - tomorrow, truck and i are not talking right now. What has changed since I closed it earlier this week and now - no idea.

You know Phil, its going to be something so simple its staring at you in the face. Been there done that on too many occasions.

[PeeBee]

This is for a GQ PeeBee?

Yes. on the GQ. I have the bonnet sitting at the right 'elevation, lined up with the top of the guards, and front edge of the guards, catch is in its upper most position within the factory slots and the bonnet catch simply won't engage. have dropped it from height, swore at it in Swahili and chucked a dirty rag on the ground in frustration, no avail. Its been sitting there all day, been too busy with work to get back to it, You would swear the catch has moved upwards in the bonnet, but its all welded firm, no deformation.

[PeeBee]

You know Phil, its going to be something so simple its staring at you in the face. Been there done that on too many occasions.

Mark, I know, I have had 2 neighbors over to stick their noses under the bonnet and we collectively spent 4 hrs on it yesterday, without the prize being reached. I keep looking for the dumb=arse spanner or nut fowling on the bracket - but nothing. Its bound to bounce out and make me look like a goose, guaranteed.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Yes. on the GQ. I have the bonnet sitting at the right 'elevation, lined up with the top of the guards, and front edge of the guards, catch is in its upper most position within the factory slots and the bonnet catch simply won't engage. have dropped it from height, swore at it in Swahili and chucked a dirty rag on the ground in frustration, no avail. Its been sitting there all day, been too busy with work to get back to it, You would swear the catch has moved upwards in the bonnet, but its all welded firm, no deformation.

Not sure if this helps... 1992 TI GQ

82682

82683

The Rats nest.... keeps the wild snakes happy I guess!!! I was actually hesitant 2 pop the bonnet 2 take pics, was waiting for a dirty big brown 2 jump out at me

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[mudski]

PHil I assume you have tested the catch using a screw driver and push down on the catch lever replicating it taking the striker? Have you tried without the release cable attached also. If not, remove the cable and tie a wire to the lever so you can use the cable to open it just incase...

[MB]

No idea but this possibly needs a holistic approach Philstar, not engineering solutions?
GQ’s have feelings too, enough is enough, stop shoving extra goodies in my mouth [emoji23]



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[Rossco]

No idea but this possibly needs a holistic approach Philstar, not engineering solutions?
GQ’s have feelings too, enough is enough, stop shoving extra goodies in my mouth [emoji23]



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOMG Markie just lost my shiz . . Too funny[emoji1787]

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[PeeBee]

Not sure if this helps... 1992 TI GQ

82682

82683

The Rats nest.... keeps the wild snakes happy I guess!!! I was actually hesitant 2 pop the bonnet 2 take pics, was waiting for a dirty big brown 2 jump out at me

82684

What you show is what i have, except the entire bracket is tilted forward as such. I have to put a big washer under the bottom of the bracket just so the bonnet will close. Anyway, the hunt continues!

[MB]

Apologies Philstar, you do know I love you Mate!
Any chance the fibreglass bonnet mods have tweaked some stuff?
My ADR Blitz did shrink some 5mm around all edges under 6.5NA temps out there 🥲


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[PeeBee]

PHil I assume you have tested the catch using a screw driver and push down on the catch lever replicating it taking the striker? Have you tried without the release cable attached also. If not, remove the cable and tie a wire to the lever so you can use the cable to open it just incase...

Yeah done that with both original and replacement unit

[PeeBee]

OMG Markie just lost my shiz . . Too funny[emoji1787]

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Must be a xmas hills thing, no idea what he is clack in' on about, again

[PeeBee]

Apologies Philstar, you do know I love you Mate!
Any chance the fibreglass bonnet mods have tweaked some stuff?
My ADR Blitz did shrink some 5mm around all edges under 6.5NA temps out there 🥲


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Would not think so as the bonnet is still intact. I am going to check down dBeside the bonnet pivot arms next jus in case there is a bolt jammed down there but ....

[MB]

Settle down clacker bags [emoji182]
Only lovingly meant is it possible that your fibreglass modifications that I have personally experienced somehow may have caused this widely inexperienced issue for all [emoji23][emoji182][emoji182]


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[MB]

Settle down clacker bags [emoji182]
Only lovingly meant is it possible that your fibreglass modifications that I have personally experienced somehow may have caused this widely inexperienced issue for all [emoji23][emoji182][emoji182]


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That made no sense MB, off to the red riding hood thread for you son [emoji182][emoji106]


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[Plasnart]

No idea but this possibly needs a holistic approach Philstar, not engineering solutions?
GQ’s have feelings too, enough is enough, stop shoving extra goodies in my mouth [emoji23]


Must be a xmas hills thing, no idea what he is clack in' on about, again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k5hahq6lyU

[Mickhead]

Bring out the trusty old mr marlin govt, open the bonnet, punch a .458 hole thru it and occy strap it to the bullbar. Job done. 😂😂😂

[mudnut]

More sad than angry. we watched as multiple Emergency Services vehicles raced past our front door, this morning.

I just found out there has been a horrific fatal crash a few kms from us. https://7news.com.au/travel/victoria-traffic/mount-richmond-car-crash-leaves-two-dead-child-critical-in-victoria-c-1828253

Please drive safely and get home in one piece.

[DX grunt]

Went to a dealer for a windscreen calibration, and they rang and told me my battery was stuff and needed a new one.

I thought it might have been on the way out so I said change it.

To take the old one out and put a new one in, they charged $65. I'm in the wrong game!

[Maxhead]

Went to a dealer for a windscreen calibration, and they rang and told me my battery was stuff and needed a new one.

I thought it might have been on the way out so I said change it.

To take the old one out and put a new one in, they charged $65. I'm in the wrong game!

Mate, you are lucky. I went for my 10k service one day and they advised me my blinker fluid needed to be replaced and the bastards charged me $395 plus the service


Edit: sorry, couldn’t resist[emoji23]

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[the evil twin]

Went to a dealer for a windscreen calibration, and they rang and told me my battery was stuff and needed a new one.

I thought it might have been on the way out so I said change it.

To take the old one out and put a new one in, they charged $65. I'm in the wrong game!

Hiya Cobber,

If you saw where the Battery is mounted in a Ford Escape $65 would be a bargain.
When the battery starts to go in my around town zooter car I'm sellin' the bastard.

Merry Xmas matey
E.T.

[10G]

More sad than angry. we watched as multiple Emergency Services vehicles raced past our front door, this morning.

I just found out there has been a horrific fatal crash a few kms from us. https://7news.com.au/travel/victoria-traffic/mount-richmond-car-crash-leaves-two-dead-child-critical-in-victoria-c-1828253

Please drive safely and get home in one piece.

Hey Craig do you know if they are locals??

[10G]

Went to a dealer for a windscreen calibration, and they rang and told me my battery was stuff and needed a new one.

I thought it might have been on the way out so I said change it.

To take the old one out and put a new one in, they charged $65. I'm in the wrong game!

What's a bloody windscreen calibration? Is it like striped paint?

[mudnut]

Hey Craig do you know if they are locals??

Yes, mate. Well known to my wife.

[Sprock]

Drivin home & watchin dickheads trying to die - I was back a bit behind 3 cars , the 3rd car ( at the back ) pulled out on a sweeping corner that I’ve overtaken on before as you can see for about a km except on this occasion I could see there was 2 cars coming about 400mts away , I backed off further as I knew it wouldn’t end well , everyone braked & dived into the gravel to make room room this cockheads , then stupid squeezed in between the 2 cars he was trying to overtake . Dickheads who obviously can’t drive their own finger up their own arse nor judge distances or know their & their vehicles capabilities putting other people’s lives in danger make me wild , this similar situation happened twice on the way home , I was just glad to get home alive .

[MB]

Copy......our little hills have been ablaze with the scenes of exodus farkwits too Sprockstar Mate!

IMHO: There should be at least 3 x levels of automobile licence achievable:

1) Auto/City Limits
2)Manual/Suburban Limits
3/Rural Accreditation of either :-)

I’m only HR Synchromesh legal so please don’t let me drive your Kenworth Logging Legend [emoji106][emoji106]






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[jay see]

Two things that happen on the same day a about 6 weeks ago.

1. Earlier this year I dropped off my bumper from my clubsport to be repaired to a bloke that I've met a few times from a Facebook group. He previously painted the rear spoiler and was happy with that. Long story short I changed my mind as I'm now getting the whole car painted. Due to the restrictions we've had down here it took a while before I could get to him. Finally arranged a time to get back to him to pick up my genuine VX fog lights with brackets, got the bar before lockdown. I finally made it there and he handed over these what you see in the picture, 2 mismatched lights 1 oval 1 round, one cracked and one has no plug and insists that these were the lights that came out of my bar. why would I wait so long and go back over 100 km round trip to go get these broken spares that he has lying around.

These lights are obsolete I managed to buy them two years ago. Now he is the only one that knows what happened to them, sold them on or has a spare set.

Whatever the case karma will fix him.



2. This is a a summary of what I sent to Parks Victoria and Knox City council.

I originally reported this accident to Knox city council and was told a day later that it was Parks Victoria responsibility. Turns out that it's not, just council trying to shift blame.

This is what I sent to council.

I pulled into the gravel carpark just past the roundabout at Wantirna Reserve on Mountain Highway Wantirna, to park to make a phone call, on the way in I noticed a pothole just past the entrance of the carpark. On the way out, I avoided the pothole, but by doing so my front right wheel just clipped and fell into the culvert end, where the culvert runs underneath the road. This was hard to see as it was in a ditch and not easily noticeable, there are no markings or signage. This has damaged the front and underside of my car on the right side near the wheel. I have made an insurance claim for the damage and will be seeking the full amount of my excess.

I have attached photos of what happen. You can see that in one of the photos there are timber bollards that have been knocked down, that shows me that this or something similar has happen recently.

Can the pothole be filled and some markings installed, maybe a white pole with a reflector on it on both sides so this doesn't happen to anyone else? This was suggested by one of your staff from council.

Regards.


I did get a reply, not from council, but their lawyers Echelon. They sent me a Request for compensation form. All pretty straight forward until you get to page 3 THE ROAD MANAGEMENT ACT 2004. Basically it says that if my request is for damage from a roadway I need to pay the first $1460.00 regardless of liability.

WHAT A LOAD OF [emoji90]

How can this be right.

We pay council to maintain things through our rates and I damage my car in their reserve and I'm left paying the bill.

I'm going to follow this through with my insurance as I have provided them the details to the other party involved (council). I'm not going to hold my breath tho.

That was a shit day...

There was a bit of damage underneath to the radiator support and I had to explain to the wife what I did you here car too.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/153.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/154.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/155.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/156.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/157.jpg

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[10G]

Yes, mate. Well known to my wife.

oh shit, i'm sorry.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Copy......our little hills have been ablaze with the scenes of exodus farkwits too Sprockstar Mate!

IMHO: There should be at least 3 x levels of automobile licence achievable:

1) Auto/City Limits
2)Manual/Suburban Limits
3/Rural Accreditation of either :-)

I’m only HR Synchromesh legal so please don’t let me drive your Kenworth Logging Legend [emoji106][emoji106]

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Would not matter, bet half out there with an MC license still can't drive a car.

I'm also HR, R but put me behind the wheel of a truck with an 18 speed road ranger gearbox these days, I'd either

1 Not be able 2 move it
2. Kill someone

[Mickhead]

Would not matter, bet half out there with an MC license still can't drive a car.

I'm also HR, R but put me behind the wheel of a truck with an 18 speed road ranger gearbox these days, I'd either

1 Not be able 2 move it
2. Kill someone

GOOD GOLLY GOSH truck licenses seem easily available these days. Just like overseas university student placements .......82701

[10G]

Copy......our little hills have been ablaze with the scenes of exodus farkwits too Sprockstar Mate!

IMHO: There should be at least 3 x levels of automobile licence achievable:

1) Auto/City Limits
2)Manual/Suburban Limits
3/Rural Accreditation of either :-)

I’m only HR Synchromesh legal so please don’t let me drive your Kenworth Logging Legend [emoji106][emoji106]






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Yep, it's easy to spot the folks from the big smoke, they're all clean and shiny, their cars, their kids, themselves. Nothing wrong with that, just saying they're easy to spot. We followed some home this arvo. They braked for the emus over in the right hand side miles away, they braked for the crow on the road and turned last minute down a road to somewhere.

They're a PITA really when you just wanna get somewhere, slowing down to look at the kangaroos or shit, or there's a bump in the road, but I do the same thing when I'm away, so I'm no better I guess.

[NissanGQ4.2]

GOOD GOLLY GOSH truck licenses seem easily available these days. Just like overseas university student placements .......82701

I got mine 20 odd years ago, really just think the instructor got sick of giving me lessons and decided 2 just give me the license instead *L*

I really didn't care because I was not paying for the lessons and had no intention of driving after getting my HR license..... which 2 this day still haven't needed it

[Plasnart]

I got mine 20 odd years ago, really just think the instructor got sick of giving me lessons and decided 2 just give me the license instead *L*

I really didn't care because I was not paying for the lessons and had no intention of driving after getting my HR license..... which 2 this day still haven't needed it

Went from non synchro HR (coach driving days) to non synchro HC licence 11 years ago. Like you toddsta I haven't used this licence in anger but my business in a non-driving field has been smashed by covid lockdowns and thinking of putting my toes in that pond again. Just not sure how or where to start that process. I'd feel like a new kid on the block again.

[MB]

It is refreshing to see such honesty Gentlemen [emoji106]
We’ve introduced recently at work a tickets register with extra skills matrix attached for anything and everything.
Just because a new bloke might show he has his Heavy Combination doesn’t mean he’ll get a run out of the local quarry with a 15% grade descent fully loaded smashing company brakes.
Much the same as a salesperson may have their perfectly legal automatic motor car licence we’re not going to ask them to make a 3.5Tonne trailer delivery behind their 2017 pretty Navara.
This is also where I feel Vic Roadies needs to increase levels of accreditation for car licenses as a yearly Auto Barina driver can legally jump straight into a Jeep Cherokee with 3.5Tonne Mini House on tow once a year.


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[Hodge]

It is refreshing to see such honesty Gentlemen [emoji106]
We’ve introduced recently at work a tickets register with extra skills matrix attached for anything and everything.
Just because a new bloke might show he has his Heavy Combination doesn’t mean he’ll get a run out of the local quarry with a 15% grade descent fully loaded smashing company brakes.
Much the same as a salesperson may have their perfectly legal automatic motor car licence we’re not going to ask them to make a 3.5Tonne trailer delivery behind their 2017 pretty Navara.
This is also where I feel Vic Roadies needs to increase levels of accreditation for car licenses as a yearly Auto Barina driver can legally jump straight into a Jeep Cherokee with 3.5Tonne Mini House on tow once a year.


Can wholeheartedly agree with this Mr MB. I've been attempting to drum this into some of our management at work...
We have/had apprentices, sent away to get HR/HC licenses after their month on the job. Let's not forget, that some of these younguns' prior driving experiences, involves not much more than dropping their commodores into "D" after revving it beyond 5k at a Maccas carpark with their steel black rear rims and a fuel tank barely hovering over the ground attempting to impress their 15yo girl friends and/or their cheering on like-minded mates...
It freaks one out, that they will now be able to drive a 25t truck PERU with a 13m trailer loaded with poles... :eek:
Although it is incredibly amusing throwing them into a road ranger boxed truck.

[MB]

Skills Matrixes can be really grounding and positive for us all Hodgey to work towards our bestest selves, keep pushing with the powers there Mate [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
The right Team Players will answer their own honestly and the bullshit artists come undone very quickly.
We’ve even had so called ticketed little indoor scissor lift drivers near destroy customers premises due to complete lack of basic spatial awareness that can’t be taught IMO [emoji26]
We’ve previously also had a know it all proclaimed mountain driver hit the top of Mt Slide descent in top gear bringing back to depot some saplings at 25Tonne GVM.
Cost the company $4k that descent with every drum cracked and a full 8x4 twin steer brakes rebuild afterwards.
Wasn’t going to say a word the prick but our local water carter made the kind call of what he had witnessed, or should I say barely witnessed through the smoke on his climb upwards passing [emoji2959]




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[NissanGQ4.2]

It is refreshing to see such honesty Gentlemen [emoji106]
We’ve introduced recently at work a tickets register with extra skills matrix attached for anything and everything.
Just because a new bloke might show he has his Heavy Combination doesn’t mean he’ll get a run out of the local quarry with a 15% grade descent fully loaded smashing company brakes.
Much the same as a salesperson may have their perfectly legal automatic motor car licence we’re not going to ask them to make a 3.5Tonne trailer delivery behind their 2017 pretty Navara.
This is also where I feel Vic Roadies needs to increase levels of accreditation for car licenses as a yearly Auto Barina driver can legally jump straight into a Jeep Cherokee with 3.5Tonne Mini House on tow once a year.


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I'm moving 2 VIC and working for you, I can print any ticket you like for the tickets register :)

[MB]

In context too for motor car licensing, whilst slowly radiator chugging (2nd gear 2,500rpm) the old GQ TD42 up and up Thunderbolts Way (Highway- East to West) in summer 2019 was shocked at what was coming down at a great rate of knots!
IIRC it was a Mitsubishi Triton with at least a 2.0Tonne van absolutely smoking down on their brakes in what I can only imagine was stuck in ‘D’ for Dangerous Descent [emoji51]
If anyone knows Thunderbolts Way you’ll understand how nuts it would be to rely on brakes alone down that monster, especially the last 15% grade drop down to the East Coast of Australia [emoji1037]


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[MB]

I'm moving 2 VIC and working for you, I can print any ticket you like for the tickets register :)

We’ve learnt our mistakes Toddstar Mate, you would be closely monitored by one of our oldest, grumpiest drivers before getting a Skills tick to the Supermarket for Milk [emoji736][emoji23]


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[Hodge]

We’ve previously also had a know it all proclaimed mountain driver hit the top of Mt Slide descent in top gear bringing back to depot some saplings at 25Tonne GVM.
Cost the company $4k that descent with every drum cracked and a full 8x4 twin steer brakes rebuild afterwards.


I'm a driver, I hate being a passenger. I am a shit passenger.
But on this one occasion, I WAS a passenger, of a young-er driver. Not even an apprenty! We had a 12T cable trailer in tow.
Heading over the Citylink Bolt bridge, while on the phone to our control room, I observed NO cars passing/overtaking us, which was odd. The truck seemed to labour a fair bit too.... A quick glance over the mirror and to shock horror there was a plume of smoke behind us stretching to infinity. Kilometres of toll-way behind us were smoked out ninja-style.
What was revealed upon making a safe exit was all 4 wheels on 2 axles turned into spinning lava 50-cent-shaped rims. The large 2-metre diameter wooden cable drum also alight...
His claim of being 500% sure he hooked up the brake air hoses was somewhat suspicious, as we found them safely zippy-tied to the A-frame... He had no come back to that one.

[MB]

Crikey Hodgey, sadly I could envisage every step of the way there you perfectly described that debacle Mate!
It’s the lying that really gets me, just own it, everybody stuffs up once in a while, we’re all human!
The bullshit artists will always be and he should’ve legal rights been allowed to be sacked immediately!
“Not enough training, not enough stickers everywhere, too much responsibility” [emoji2961]




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[DX grunt]

What's a bloody windscreen calibration? Is it like striped paint?
10G

Not sure. Because it's got 'Lane Assist or words similar" the windscreen's got to be calibrated.

I'm guessing it's to keep me between the left hand edge (fog line) and the middle of the road lines.

[NissanGQ4.2]

It’s the lying that really gets me, just own it, everybody stuffs up once in a while, we’re all human!

Exactly and exactly why you should give me a job driving a HR truck, I don't lie unfortunatly

[mudnut]

The new engine shat itself at Port Mac SA. Many hours and two flat bed tow trucks and we're home. I think it has dropped a valve.

[PeeBee]

Really sorry to hear this Craig, after everything looking so good, hope it's a straight forward repair for you

[mudnut]

Hoping it is just a lifter, but it sounds very crunchy. Only a couple of thousand kms out of it. Also very lucky it failed in the township and not on the beach, north of Beachport as was planned for the afternoon.

[Plasnart]

Hoping it is just a lifter, but it sounds very crunchy. Only a couple of thousand kms out of it. Also very lucky it failed in the township and not on the beach, north of Beachport as was planned for the afternoon.

Shit mate hope it's just that. Fingers crossed for you and yes glad you're not stuck on the beach.

[mudski]

Crikey Hodgey, sadly I could envisage every step of the way there you perfectly described that debacle Mate!
It’s the lying that really gets me, just own it, everybody stuffs up once in a while, we’re all human!
The bullshit artists will always be and he should’ve legal rights been allowed to be sacked immediately!
“Not enough training, not enough stickers everywhere, too much responsibility” [emoji2961]




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Agreed 100%. You make a mistake? Own up to it. The two store man at work are notorious for not owning up. They stuff up packing an order and they are trying every excuse under the sun. It just makes them look worse. I’m like yeah we all make mistakes, move forward now and get on with it. They’ll just carry on like a pork chop!


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[mudnut]

She's toast. #1 and #2 have dropped valves. The bore in #1 is rooooted. Unless there is a lot of meat in the bore walls, the block is an anchor. I just hope the crank is still good and the $1000 oil pump isn't crunched up with metal. Had a front locker on order, so will have to cancel that, too.

[Plasnart]

She's toast. #1 and #2 have dropped valves. The bore in #1 is rooooted. Unless there is a lot of meat in the bore walls, the block is an anchor. I just hope the crank is still good and the $1000 oil pump isn't crunched up with metal. Had a front locker on order, so will have to cancel that, too.

Sorry to hear this muddy, that really sucks.

[Hodge]

Coronas are back in stock in Victoria gents.
Shut the borders and ground the freakin planes now, before shit hits the propeller.

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[PeeBee]

Coronas are back in stock in Victoria gents.
Shut the borders and ground the freakin planes now, before shit hits the propeller.

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Yep, sitting on a razor blade right now as i am booked to return to the mine in QLD on Feb 3. The only 'good' thing about the QLD scenario is that they now have a couple of Corona cases so they may be more restrained in their reactions, unlike WA, however I can understand this is about containment. Its not the governments at fault, its the numpties who refuse to abide by instructions and to take responsibility for their actions. Its all well and good to belly ache about your freedom to move around being restricted, well, maybe frame the situation around one of your family members being the spreader source or getting ill and dying - there needs to be more of a personal link to the cause and effect with certain parts of the community. We have the 85 YO mother-in-law flying down from Hervey Bay on Jan 8, been living in a bubble up there, Covid free, and wants to come down to Melb and go shopping - guess what, better pack a jigsaw puzzle because we aint going out and about with a high risk person - she has asthma as well and is a total PIA to boot - maybe i should take her shopping!

[Winnie]

She's toast. #1 and #2 have dropped valves. The bore in #1 is rooooted. Unless there is a lot of meat in the bore walls, the block is an anchor. I just hope the crank is still good and the $1000 oil pump isn't crunched up with metal. Had a front locker on order, so will have to cancel that, too.Bugger mate sorry to hear that.
I suppose on the plus side, RB30s are relatively cheap to buy in unknown condition?

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[Hodge]

Bugger mate sorry to hear that.
I suppose on the plus side, RB30s are relatively cheap to buy in unknown condition?

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How are the 4.8's pricewise? Would it possibly be viable to go for a 4.8... Being Petrol for Petrol might be a OK idea to get a bit more oomph.
Just thinking out loud.

[10G]

10G

Not sure. Because it's got 'Lane Assist or words similar" the windscreen's got to be calibrated.

I'm guessing it's to keep me between the left hand edge (fog line) and the middle of the road lines.

Oh, OK, I thought you were having a lend, haha.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Coronas are back in stock in Victoria gents.
Shut the borders and ground the freakin planes now, before shit hits the propeller.

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82718


Think we are just a few up on you Texans, spreading from East to West slowly but surely :(

82719

[mudski]

She's toast. #1 and #2 have dropped valves. The bore in #1 is rooooted. Unless there is a lot of meat in the bore walls, the block is an anchor. I just hope the crank is still good and the $1000 oil pump isn't crunched up with metal. Had a front locker on order, so will have to cancel that, too.

Fark what a pain in the backside that is...


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[mudnut]

I have my fingers crossed the rods haven't bent and slammed into the crank. I still have the original engine with the stuffed crank, so I might be able to make one good unit out two. But all this is just frivolous compared to this bloody viral outbreak.

[10G]

Coronas are back in stock in Victoria gents.
Shut the borders and ground the freakin planes now, before shit hits the propeller.

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I thought you were talking about Toyota Corona's and wondered, what's he talking about them for???? I'm always on the ball ;-)

[10G]

I have my fingers crossed the rods haven't bent and slammed into the crank. I still have the original engine with the stuffed crank, so I might be able to make one good unit out two. But all this is just frivolous compared to this bloody viral outbreak.

Bloody hell Craig, sorry to hear that mate, after all the hard work you've put into it.

[Stropp]

She's toast. #1 and #2 have dropped valves. The bore in #1 is rooooted. Unless there is a lot of meat in the bore walls, the block is an anchor. I just hope the crank is still good and the $1000 oil pump isn't crunched up with metal. Had a front locker on order, so will have to cancel that, too.

Shit way to end the year mate, let’s hope 21 is better for us all.

[mudski]

Well for the second year running our annual family Christmas trip is down the toilet. I seriously want to bomb the shit out of our government. First they let our states burn, now they think that’s it’s a good idea to let in Covid ridden people from overseas! Nice job!

[AB]

Happy new year!

Just got back from fleeing Tocumwal on NYE.

There was a devastating fatal crash just now on the Melba before Kinglake. Looks like a huge head on, cars folded, horrible!


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[mudnut]

Road Toll, my arse. What a cop out. That term makes people complacent and to accept it. A family we know has been destroyed on Christmas eve. Unfortunately it was their daughter on learners driving when they had a head on crash.

Update, on the Old Trol. The air inlet deflector can under the carby has broken loose and entered the cylinders, so it is still terminal, but the engine builder is in the clear. I can't even point a finger at the engine installer, because the carby and manifold were in one piece when installed.

[TPC]

Well for the second year running our annual family Christmas trip is down the toilet. I seriously want to bomb the shit out of our government. First they let our states burn, now they think that’s it’s a good idea to let in Covid ridden people from overseas! Nice job!

Where were you heading?

[mudski]

Where were you heading?

We had Merimbula paid and booked for the the 5th for two weeks. Second year running we have had to cancel.


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[TPC]

We had Merimbula paid and booked for the the 5th for two weeks. Second year running we have had to cancel.


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Feel for you mate, we have been lucky in SA.
Had several planned things fxxked up by covid year and lost a bit of money from our cancelled Singapore trip.

[Cremulator]

Feel for you mate, we have been lucky in SA.
Had several planned things fxxked up by covid year and lost a bit of money from our cancelled Singapore trip.Have a look at the airlines webpages again just to be sure. We had a trip to Japan in June 2020 cancelled by Cathay Pacific and they have updated their policy (I saw in December) to provide refunds without penalty fees if your booking/travel dates fell within a certain period.
Fortunately our departure date was the beginning of the period to qualify for a refund.
The travel agent is arranging our full refund minus agent booking fees of about $75 [emoji106]

[TPC]

Have a look at the airlines webpages again just to be sure. We had a trip to Japan in June 2020 cancelled by Cathay Pacific and they have updated their policy (I saw in December) to provide refunds without penalty fees if your booking/travel dates fell within a certain period.
Fortunately our departure date was the beginning of the period to qualify for a refund.
The travel agent is arranging our full refund minus agent booking fees of about $75 [emoji106]

We got the money back from Singapore Airlines but the accommodation was through booking.com and no refund available.

[Cremulator]

We got the money back from Singapore Airlines but the accommodation was through booking.com and no refund available.Ah, good to hear you got airfares refunded [emoji6]

[Maxhead]

We got 100% back plus our insurance with Singapore. I’ll go with them again


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[mudnut]

I gotta back track with the engine, because I feel a bit like a drama queen.:{. Trying to decipher the picture on the inspection camera in daylight, I really thought the engine was toast. It was only after we pulled the head that the truth was revealed.

Under the carby, Mr Nissan had fitted a a sheet metal air deflector, about the size of a small plastic film canister. About half of the deflector is cut away. This was to make sure every cylinder received the right amount of fuel air mixture.

The cuts made in the deflector are right angle with bugger all radii. So with time the metal has cracked and dropped into the engine. The sheetmetal pieces have been smashed, folded and pounded flat by the valves and piston crown. The big gouge I thought was in the cylinder wall turned out to be a reflection of part of the debris on top of the piston.

I really did think it was bits of the valves. Hopefully the engine builder can check every thing and we can get it going with minimal cost, so I can afford the front locker.

[MB]

Awesome News Craigstar, Lock Her Up Brother [emoji106][emoji106]
Amazing how tough real old engines are at munching goodies unfortunately up and spitting them out [emoji23]
Once had a Quadrajet carby underside bolt mistakenly loose get sucked in and straight out of a 350 modded FJ40 cylinder, didn’t sound sexy at all but kept pulling wheel stands for some 12 mountain months thereafter [emoji51]


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[NissanGQ4.2]

1 Covid case in Katoomba 40mins away and 1 Case in Penrith 20 mins away from me and as of midnight its mandatory for me 2 where a mask in a shop!

[PeeBee]

1 Covid case in Katoomba 40mins away and 1 Case in Penrith 20 mins away from me and as of midnight its mandatory for me 2 where a mask in a shop!

You will adapt, no one has died in melb from wearing a mask for the last 4 months. Think of it as personal protection.

[NissanGQ4.2]

You will adapt, no one has died in melb from wearing a mask for the last 4 months. Think of it as personal protection.

True but hasn't stop it either in Melbourne so it seems, it should be my call 2 decide when I feel the need 2 protect myself and loved ones not when grubbament tries 2 force it upon me.

Each 2 their own I guess *L*

[Rossco]

Just as much to protect others as yourself as can have it without knowing as recently shown . . Just went down to pick up some pizza and about 20 hoodlems inside and out no masks or care for distancing whatsoever, will be a bloody battle with so many with this attitude damit. .

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[Hodge]

True but hasn't stop it either in Melbourne so it seems, it should be my call 2 decide when I feel the need 2 protect myself and loved ones not when grubbament tries 2 force it upon me.

Each 2 their own I guess *L*Masks helped immensely when Vic was at the brunt of it. Tide turned after they were made compulsory.

Don't forget 99% of the time , the masks only work when a sick person is wearing it as it mostly captures the droplets ... So you wearing one only when you decide to protect "your self " is a waste of time as you're protecting nobody , unless you're sick your self.

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[PeeBee]

Interesting perspective, I think we are at opposite sides of the universe right now. Maybe the wearing of masks would be easier for some if the 'gubberment' sent out cheques or maybe free 'telly's' to compensate for the inconvenience? Or they simply multiplied the fines 10 fold to enforce what is clearly a positive way forward? At the end of the day it is your choice, however there are tangible consequences coming really quick, so if you have that sort of idle cash floating around, I guess you are ok to not wear a mask and stick the middle finger up at everyone else who is following the scientifically based directive of the State Medical Officer.

Me. I am a little bit self centred like you; I am in a high risk group, I have a daughter with a new borne, another high risk group, my wife is an aged care worker helping people in their final stages of life, a critical risk group, and I simply want to be able to go back to work, something i have not had the luxury of since March 3 2020, and NO GUBBERMENT hand-out either, so yeah, its personal to me, just as it is personal to just about every other person trying to get to the other side of this pandemic with the least damage. I urge you to reconsider your position and abide by the instruction, it won't hurt a bit.

[Plasnart]

What's happened to the General Banter thread? I can't find it. Anybody??

[mudnut]

Was searching for that tuther day. Gave up after a bit.

[Plasnart]

[QUOTE=mudnut;814488]Was searching for that tuther day. Gave up after a

I was hoping for a different response muddy, but about 12 months ago my "account" experienced a glitch. Every thread I started (which included the General Banter thread) plus all my posts in those threads were expunged. Got absolutely no idea how or why that happened but I lost about 6000 posts. Not that they were too useful to technical-related issues! Some were but most were my usual dribble. Will start another General Banter thread.

[mudnut]

[QUOTE=mudnut;814488]Was searching for that tuther day. Gave up after a

I was hoping for a different response muddy, but about 12 months ago my "account" experienced a glitch. Every thread I started (which included the General Banter thread) plus all my posts in those threads were expunged. Got absolutely no idea how or why that happened but I lost about 6000 posts. Not that they were too useful to technical-related issues! Some were but most were my usual dribble. Will start another General Banter thread.

You do know that all your threads were sent to another universe, where another version of you has suddenly got 6000 extra posts and is totally freaked out.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Fair points Rossco, Hodge, PeeBee.

So how long should we be forced 2 wear masks for?, how long was it mandatory in VIC, and what happened?. Not saying masks don't work but its pretty obvious it won't stop it happening time and time again

[Rossco]

Fair points Rossco, Hodge, PeeBee.

So how long should we be forced 2 wear masks for?, how long was it mandatory in VIC, and what happened?. Not saying masks don't work but its pretty obvious it won't stop it happening time and time againWearing masks is a pain in the arse make you a little self conscious at first but is a small thing that definatly helps. Vic was in a very bad situation and got down to zero community cases for a long time till inevitably some were picked up at this time of year where everyone is moving around so much. . I don't think the government want to force people to do things just to be pricks, but "recommending" and "advising" people to do things doesn't do shit, they and I'm sure everyone else just wants to get ontop of this bout of cases that have poped up. Once back to zero transmission I would say they would be lifted a little bit depends on state decisions. Everything is based on medical advice from some pretty smart people out there. .

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[Cuppa]

Good post Rossco.

We don't like wearing masks, but do so anyway when on our monthly shopping excursions to the metropolis of Mareeba. No one takes much notice even though we are probably the only ones in Mareeba wearing them. There has been no community transmission here at all yet, & the locals carry on as though no pandemic exists. Problem is, in our view, it will take just one infected person from the south passing through (something we think is inevitable sooner or later) to create a situation which spreads more rapidly than in many places, as even social distancing in virtually non existent. Us wearing masks is as much about setting an example to try to 'normalise it' at least in people's heads so if/when the virus arrives here it wont be such a big step for others & may save a bit of time & thus hopefully prevent a bad situation becoming worse than it is. We don't care what it makes us look like, but it can be a bit unconfortable in the northern heat & humidity. But if we can manage that up here, it should be easier further south.

[growler2058]

Can you walk into a bank with ya mask on?

[Plasnart]

Can you walk into a bank with ya mask on?

Yep. I actually walked into mine with a face bandana several times. Have had a falling out with them and walked into the arsehole manager's office (we have each others mobile numbers so an intimate business relationship) and went hell for tongs with him with it on. Didn't get shot.

[rusty_nail]

Fair points Rossco, Hodge, PeeBee.

So how long should we be forced 2 wear masks for?, how long was it mandatory in VIC, and what happened?. Not saying masks don't work but its pretty obvious it won't stop it happening time and time again

Honestly mate it is not the end of the world.

My heavily pregnant wife did it and did not complain one bit.

To answer your question, we were covid free for some decent period, I don't know the stats but it was a decent while.

Contact tracing and genomic tracing lead the experts to believe the latest outbreak in Vic has come from NSW.

regardless of my personal beliefs complacency in a state which is our of our premiere has no control has led us to now having to wear masks in indoor public places again.

For the record Tegan is due on the 30th of this month and is struggling for movement as it is. Add a mask to that and it really makes her struggle, even as fit as she was.

The situation we are now in is far beyond our control but both of us will make damn sure that we are doing everything we can to prevent the spread.

I visited 5 supermarket type places today, hand sanitised every time i entered one, only touched what I intended to buy and even asked my 2 year old daughter to wash her hands with the sanitizer when we went to new places.

If a 2 year old can tow the line I'm sure most adults can.

The most recent outbreak has more than completely fucked us for our plans in 2021...

My father in law and partner(from Cronulla, NSW) were planned to move in with us for several weeks to help with the movements in our house when Baby #2 was born.

Now when Tegan goes into labour we are buggered if we know what we are doing with Lacey(#1). Tegan, the midwife and I delivered her, and we plan to do the same with #2. What if her water breaks at midnight? Does that mean I have to miss out and we call an ambulance and completely ruin our delivery plans just because someone was too selfish to wear a mask? Or because a state government didn't enforce that early enough?

I like you mate, I think your a top bloke but, and I mean but, in Victoria we have been through all this several months ago and it didn't change anyone for the worse, it didn't make the government mind control on anyone grow and we came out of the whole ordeal relatively unscathed... Untill now.

I'll give you some food for thought, woods point, where I know you have been as it was with me, falls under Yarra valley shire council. Yarra valley shire council was part of Melbourne Metropolitan... They had to go through all the same restrictions as us in the bigger smoke, even that they couldn't travel more than 5km. As you've been there you know that there is nothing but big trees in 5km.

Yet they endured the situation and moved on.

All I'm saying is toughen up mate, your "grubberment" has finally woken up to themselves and done the right thing by the rest of Australia. Now it's time for the little people to tow the line.

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[NissanGQ4.2]

Honestly mate it is not the end of the world.



All I'm saying is toughen up mate, your "grubberment" has finally woken up to themselves and done the right thing by the rest of Australia. Now it's time for the little people to tow the line.

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I'm really not angry that I have 2 where a mask, that's easy done. I'm angry at the stupidity of out government.... sorry but they have far from woken up. I can go 2 work next week in a indoor area and mask wearing is not mandatory. I can go into a gym mask wearing is not mandatory..... the list goes on. Yet again its only a half arsed attempt 2 do anything.

It won't go away outbreaks will happen over and over and over again.

All the best to you and Tegan

[growler2058]

First day back at work has made me sad not mad :(

[jay see]

First day back at work has made me sad not mad :(Feel ya pain mate.[emoji17]

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[TPC]

Set up at Cape Jaffa and is is windy as f#ck.
Then find out the seafood festival had been cancelled this year. :furious:
At least the crayfish is cheap.

[mudski]

Set up at Cape Jaffa and is is windy as f#ck.
Then find out the seafood festival had been cancelled this year. :furious:
At least the crayfish is cheap.

That’s a bummer about the festival. When isn’t it windy down there too?


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[mudnut]

Set up at Cape Jaffa and is is windy as f#ck.
Then find out the seafood festival had been cancelled this year. :furious:
At least the crayfish is cheap.

Did ya cop the huge electrical storm? It went for ages here, and around Warnambool copped flooding.

[TPC]

Did ya cop the huge electrical storm? It went for ages here, and around Warnambool copped flooding.

Nothing here, just wind and about 10 drops of rain.

[jay see]

Loos like my son's car has done something to the transmission. He called me just as I was going to bed on Thursday night, ended up hoping into bed a 2.30am after getting it towed home and back up at 5.30 for work. 1st year appreciate wanting to buy a place of his own, he's doing pretty good with savings, let's hope it doesn't hurt him too much.

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[Plasnart]

Loos like my son's car has done something to the transmission. He called me just as I was going to bed on Thursday night, ended up hoping into bed a 2.30am after getting it towed home and back up at 5.30 for work. 1st year appreciate wanting to buy a place of his own, he's doing pretty good with savings, let's hope it doesn't hurt him too much.

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You're a good dad JC. Reminds me of my old man coming to my young and stupid rescue 30 years ago with a bogged Datsun Stanza in the forest at midnight. Had to hike out and wake up a farmer to ask to use his phone (got my arse kicked) to wake up the old man to come pull me out (arse kicked again). Haha!

[jay see]

Got quoted $2750 for the repairs. Will try to move it on as is at a reduced price. If it doesn't sell within a month fix it and trade it.

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[10G]

Interesting perspective, I think we are at opposite sides of the universe right now. Maybe the wearing of masks would be easier for some if the 'gubberment' sent out cheques or maybe free 'telly's' to compensate for the inconvenience? Or they simply multiplied the fines 10 fold to enforce what is clearly a positive way forward? At the end of the day it is your choice, however there are tangible consequences coming really quick, so if you have that sort of idle cash floating around, I guess you are ok to not wear a mask and stick the middle finger up at everyone else who is following the scientifically based directive of the State Medical Officer.

Me. I am a little bit self centred like you; I am in a high risk group, I have a daughter with a new borne, another high risk group, my wife is an aged care worker helping people in their final stages of life, a critical risk group, and I simply want to be able to go back to work, something i have not had the luxury of since March 3 2020, and NO GUBBERMENT hand-out either, so yeah, its personal to me, just as it is personal to just about every other person trying to get to the other side of this pandemic with the least damage. I urge you to reconsider your position and abide by the instruction, it won't hurt a bit.

I'm an asthmatic. I can still clearly remember my last serious attack, it was at least 35 years ago.

In case you don't know what an asthma attack is, you just cannot breathe, you can't suck enough air in and the attack can last for over an hour if you can't get the correct medication. My last attack, I was camping with mates in the bush. I'd been trying to breathe for close to 2 hours and had given up, I was ready to die, no energy left to try to breathe.

From what I've seen and heard, this is just what COVID is like, bloody hard just trying to breathe.

It's easy to find out what an asthma attack (and maybe COVID) is like. Block your nose, then place the palm of your hand over your mouth. Leave it there and try to breathe. Try it for 30 seconds. Try leaving it like that for an hour & see how your breathing goes.

Now compare that feeling of suffocation with the ease of wearing a mask.

You can do whatever you want, but I cannot understand why wearing a mask is such a PITA, it just isn't.

[PeeBee]

Bloody Telstra. We upgraded to the NBN a couple of years ago when it became avail. Telstra or their installation agents did the actual installation and configuration of the 'boxes' inside the house at the time.

The system has never been as brilliant or reliable as we could have expected, and this morning we lost WIFI inside the house. I did all the usual stuff like powering down and restarting, standing in the corner of a darkened room and farting out the national Anthem - the new one with the changed word, etc, but nothing. Sort of critical working from home to have it up and running. So a call to Telstra, looked like technical help only avail thru their Platinum Service, which is a subscription or fee based set-up - OK, here we go. Agent comes on line, 45 minutes later, turns out the installation is wrong and we have an older Telstra gateway installed as part of the nest of boxes, and the technician was surprised it even worked, this had died. So, take the gateway out of the loop, re-route the cables, and away we went. The detestable Google help scream thing was having trouble adjusting to the different communication path and was blaring out messages of dismay for about 10 minutes before it found a suitable connection path.

Anyway, was waiting for the tech to complete his works and tell me the damage, however since it was a set up issue from the get-go, they waived it - so a win on one hand, but with luck an end to the system that has been nobbled for quite a period.

[10G]

Oh, bloody Telstra tech support, bloody Telstra full stop. Don't get me started on talking to support people you cannot understand. Here's a good business model, setup a support centre, expect people to ring up who will be upset and then get them to speak with someone they can't understand. That'll calm them down.

[Mickhead]

Cheer cheese. Get farked.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Cheer cheese. Get farked.

If nobody ever named Aboriginals Coon would it be known as racist and renamed.... I think not.

I find white cheese being called white cheese offensive because people call me white ( and a lot of other things! ), think white cheese should be renamed 2 "cheer the 2nd" cheese

[Rossco]

Haha they had long enough to make up a new name and that's the best they came up with. . Sure they spent millions on it. .[emoji23]

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[Avo]

If your name is dick or ya mates call ya a c ....I'm.f offended

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[Hodge]

We gotta get this city into lockdown again ASAP!
The traffic is absolutely farked lately ... [emoji35]

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[growler2058]

We gotta get this city into lockdown again ASAP!
The traffic is absolutely farked lately ... [emoji35]

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Hahahahaha,

[mudski]

Dropped my circa $300 sunnies off the back of my head today whilst looking up at something. The rim off the glasses hit the edge of the builders compound saw and cracked the frame and the glass lens. Fecking spewing. They were really good sunnies. Lasted 5 years so thats pretty good going I suppose.

[Brissieboy]

Not Patrol related, but crashed my drone!!! What really pizzes me off is that it was 100% my own fault.

[Mickhead]

Not Patrol related, but crashed my drone!!! What really pizzes me off is that it was 100% my own fault.

Ouch what drone was it? 😵

[10G]

Hey Hodge, found out the other day, while we were away, the wooden horizontal beam on the power pole out the front of house snapped and all the power lines came down across our nature strip, driveway and from the house to the street. Bloke up the road rang Powercor, they didn't know anything about it & asked him to stay there until someone came. An hour later, someone came. Took them 10 hours to put it all back in place.
Powercor haven't spoken to us about it. Thing is, we spend a fair bit of time out there gardening, we would have been killed had someone been there.

I mowed under it today, I'd a been stuffed if it fell down again today.

The lines end at our house, so they were flat down along the ground for at least 150 metres, including across the end of a street. Really makes me wonder if they DO check these things.

[Hodge]

Hey @Hodge (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/member.php?u=15680), found out the other day, while we were away, the wooden horizontal beam on the power pole out the front of house snapped and all the power lines came down across our nature strip, driveway and from the house to the street. Bloke up the road rang Powercor, they didn't know anything about it & asked him to stay there until someone came. An hour later, someone came. Took them 10 hours to put it all back in place.
Powercor haven't spoken to us about it. Thing is, we spend a fair bit of time out there gardening, we would have been killed had someone been there.

I mowed under it today, I'd a been stuffed if it fell down again today.

The lines end at our house, so they were flat down along the ground for at least 150 metres, including across the end of a street. Really makes me wonder if they DO check these things.

Hey mate! Sounds like the wooden termination (end of line) low voltage cross-arm snapped...( like the one pictured? ) And brought the wires down to the deck.
They are meant to be inspected at certain intervals. But sometimes the best structurally sound looking ones, snap the quickest with a bit of wind, a jolt, or something nudges a pole...



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[10G]

Yeah, that's it's exactly what is is. The poles carry an additional two cross arms, which I'm told are high voltage, 3 phase I guess.

I'd been looking at that thing for years & thinking, one day that'll bust & it did. Why do they use wood on the end beam??

[Brissieboy]

Ouch what drone was it? 😵

DJI Mavic Pro. No idea of the damage yet as I can't get it retrieved until Wednesday. It didn't crash to the ground so I am hoping it is not much more than props.

[jay see]

Got quoted $2750 for the repairs. Will try to move it on as is at a reduced price. If it doesn't sell within a month fix it and trade it.

Sent from my CPH1979 using TapatalkAfter dealing with all the floggs on market place, most from a non English background we moved it on as is.

Someone wanted me to bring it to them in Geelong about 60km away. I told them that I'll get a few mates over and we'll push it there but not today as it too hot and will take a few days. Another wanted to know why the front bar was a little different in colour, I suggested that I get it painted and then the paint man will deliver it to you. They both agreed.

He found a car which is on hold till tomorrow afternoon, but he's finding it a little hard and overwhelming to get a personal loan. Think we will buy it for him and when he gets approved he'll just pay us back. He's happy to get a loan as he wants to build a credit history (to buy a house). I think that he's apprenticeship wage and only 6 months into full time work is why he's getting knocked back. He's waiting on one with a balloon payment at the end of the loan which he may be eligible for. If he's still having trouble, we will look at been guarantor for him.

Poor kid can't seem to get a break

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[mudnut]

Read in the local rag, that the driver of one of the vehicles in the fatal crash at Mt Richmond had drugs in his system. FFS!!

[10G]

Bloody hell what a waste Craig, how very sad. Sometimes you feel like it's a bloody gamble.

Just this morning, there was a guy stopped at a stop sign, half a car length over the lines on the road. Usually not a problem. But then a delivery guy with a trolley walked into the centre of the road, then a log truck appeared, then a car decided to turn right in front of the guy at the Stop sign. The whole bloody situation went from safe to a potential disaster in about 1.5 seconds.

[Mickhead]

I am annoyed that I did not become a professional tennis player. With those credentials I would be classed as an ESSENTIAL FUKN SERVICES WORKER in Victoria by DAN AND HIS CLOWNS.

[jay see]

Angry that I didn't invest in cryptocurrency a few years ago. I did look into it but thought, nah that's not going anywhere.

I did take the plunge and I'll seen my money double in less than a week. Imagine if I bought those 5 bitcoins for $200 each back then.. oh well better late than never..

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[Winnie]

I nearly got talked into buying $500 worth when I was 18 and it was very new. Would be worth millions now but where is the fun in that? Haha.

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[jay see]

I nearly got talked into buying $500 worth when I was 18 and it was very new. Would be worth millions now but where is the fun in that? Haha.

Sent from my SM-G986B using TapatalkYeah millions, no fun in having all of those $$$.[emoji17]

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[mudski]

Dictator Dan locking us up again but also stopping construction. We have scaffolding around our house since last Monday and nothing happened since, due to a death in the builders family, but spoke with him Saturday he had all trades booked to come in the whole week, brickies, sparkie, plumber and roof tilers and now none are coming.
This Carnt is cooked. Fucking over him big time!!!!

But the Tennis is still on at least!!


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[Winnie]

Yeah its put our deck back by another week too which sucks.

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[jack]

Unfortunately it’s a global pandemic and it looks like the more virulent strain has arrived in Australia. We need to stop returned travellers being quarantined in cities, every state has had an outbreak from hotel quarantine.
We’ve got Christmas Island detention centre sitting practically empty but costing millions of dollars to maintain and run. It’s time the federal government took control of quarantine and stop pushing it to the states. They control all overseas travel and other quarantine but are to gutless to make a tough decision in case it affects their popularity. Now is a time for strong leadership.
Sorry guys but a delay with a renovation is a small price to pay when people are dying, just have a look how bloody lucky we are to live here.

[Cuppa]

Agree with Jack.

'Dictator Dan' rolls off the tongue more easily than 'Strong Dan'.

I can understand the frustration behind it though, this pandemic is a bastard!

[rusty_nail]

I'm with you Jack. Scott is fairly quick to criticise WA their tough stance but their state is doing pretty well. I have nothing but praise for the pollies that are happy to stand up and do what is the best thing to do, not what is in people's personal best interests. I know that may not be popular opinion and it affects people in rural zones but in the long run I think it's the right thing to do.

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[10G]

You have a tough debate to convince me that a human life runs second in importance to anything else.

The old saying always seem to be true, an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.

[the evil twin]

snip... Scott is fairly quick to criticise WA their tough stance but their state is doing pretty well. I have nothing but praise for the pollies that are happy to stand up and do what is the best thing to do, not what is in people's personal best interests.

Couldn't disagree more.
As punishment for my sins I live in Mark the Messiahs' electorate and he is a shit local member who has overseen WA's massive unemployment pre Covid, a tripling of Ambulance ramping and recently locked down 2.5 million people for no, thats right ZERO, community transmissions after 1 positive UK strain test for a worker.
The positive case didn't even infect anyone his own household.
The reason for the lockdown?
Our tracking is shit, even worse than Vic's... the QR code/sign in was only made compulsory for all businesses last week.
His inane Border restrictions are driven solely to artificially lower the unemployment rate by discouraging interstate FIFO and other workers.

IMHO if you want the so called Gold Standard of "Rona Sanity" it is NSW first and daylight second, the other states and territories (Lib and Labor) are too caught up in their own pissing contests

[Plasnart]

Couldn't disagree more.
As punishment for my sins I live in Mark the Messiahs' electorate and he is a shit local member who has overseen WA's massive unemployment pre Covid, a tripling of Ambulance ramping and recently locked down 2.5 million people for no, thats right ZERO, community transmissions after 1 positive UK strain test for a worker.
The positive case didn't even infect anyone his own household.
The reason for the lockdown?
Our tracking is shit, even worse than Vic's... the QR code/sign in was only made compulsory for all businesses last week.
His inane Border restrictions are driven solely to artificially lower the unemployment rate by discouraging interstate FIFO and other workers.

IMHO if you want the so called Gold Standard of "Rona Sanity" it is NSW first and daylight second, the other states and territories (Lib and Labor) are too caught up in their own pissing contests

Gladys might be a sneaky root rat (good on her) but she seems to have level-headed reactions to this crisis which seem to work pretty well without locking small businesses down unnecessarily. Government gotta realise yes they're responsible for public health but they're also responsible for public mental health (in crisis) and the state's income (in crisis). Some Premiers don't worry about the economy though. We have AAA credit ratings so they just borrow their way through to keep the public image high and grand. Just like a problem gambler. All's good while the successful facade stands. When it crumbles, well all of a sudden we're that far deep in the pit we lose our credit rating, nobody will lend money, they'll ask higher interest rates and we're in the shit again and need to sell up big. Politics is an interesting game. We actually need both sides just like Yin/Yang. One mob spends money like a drunken sailor to provide the services and infrastructure the public want. The other mob has to be rational, level-headed and less grandiose to build the economy back up to pay for it. And around and around it goes to have this level of living. It actually works well overall, but we all rant and rave during the cycle. It all levels out at the end of the day if there's a good quality opposition. Unfortunately the Vic opposition is a lost cause and hasn't got the influence to keep the current government in check.

[mudnut]

Long-winded Political discussions :)

[Plasnart]

Long-winded Political discussions :)

Fair call mate. Got sucked in.

[rusty_nail]

Fair call mate. Got sucked in.Me to. My bad. Sorry folks

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[mudski]

Long-winded Political discussions :)

Yup. Our premier is in a power trip and has done more bad than good in his time at the top. What’s happening now is just the icing on the cake. Opinions vary and no one will ever agree. I hate the carnt with a passion. My opinion. Peace brothers.


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[MB]

Not angry, just disenchanted with the lack of new age telephony decency even with 40 & 50+ similar age groups finding now [emoji2959]
One goes out of their way to SMS’y some truly needed/requested information and receives back their exact same words with “Liked/Loved” or some other sh#t in front of their original message information.
Have we really become that farkin lazy that we can’t simply reply with: “Thanks got it, appreciated”
We are coming undone folks, maybe just me though no doubt [emoji23][emoji107][emoji107]


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[Plasnart]

Not angry, just disenchanted with the lack of new age telephony decency even with 40 & 50+ similar age groups finding now [emoji2959]
One goes out of their way to SMS’y some truly needed/requested information and receives back their exact same words with “Liked/Loved” or some other sh#t in front of their original message information.
Have we really become that farkin lazy that we can’t simply reply with: “Thanks got it, appreciated”
We are coming undone folks, maybe just me though no doubt [emoji23][emoji107][emoji107]


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Liked.....

[Plasnart]

Liked.....

If you loan someone 10 bucks and you never see them again, that's the best 10 bucks you've spent mate.

If you go out of your way to give advice and they don't thank you for it, that's the last advice you give to that person would be my take on it mate.

[MB]

Liked.....

Disliked FarkKnuckle [emoji182][emoji107][emoji107]


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[MB]

If you loan someone 10 bucks and you never see them again, that's the best 10 bucks you've spent mate.

If you go out of your way to give advice and they don't thank you for it, that's the last advice you give to that person would be my take on it mate.

Liked: Brilliant advice thanks Plassy Mate!!


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[jack]

Not angry, just disenchanted with the lack of new age telephony decency even with 40 & 50+ similar age groups finding now [emoji2959]
One goes out of their way to SMS’y some truly needed/requested information and receives back their exact same words with “Liked/Loved” or some other sh#t in front of their original message information.
Have we really become that farkin lazy that we can’t simply reply with: “Thanks got it, appreciated”
We are coming undone folks, maybe just me though no doubt [emoji23][emoji107][emoji107]


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[MB]

Sweet as Pye you are Jackstar Mate [emoji182][emoji182]


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[mudski]

If you loan someone 10 bucks and you never see them again, that's the best 10 bucks you've spent mate.

If you go out of your way to give advice and they don't thank you for it, that's the last advice you give to that person would be my take on it mate.

I loaned someone my Exhaust Jack and never saw them again. Best Exhaust Jack I ever bought. I hope the carnt pops on him when he's under it...

[MB]

Budha says: You’ll be bitten on the cock knob by a flea tonight for even thinking of such hateful things Mudski Mate!


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[mudski]

Budha says: You’ll be bitten on the cock knob by a flea tonight for even thinking of such hateful things Mudski Mate!


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Hopeful things mate. Hopeful... Best thing he ever did was disappear. Friendship is NOT supposed to be hard work and like your back at school.

[PeeBee]

I loaned someone my Exhaust Jack and never saw them again. Best Exhaust Jack I ever bought. I hope the carnt pops on him when he's under it...

I am still waiting for the guy who borrowed my roofrack for a 1976 Subaru to return it - just on principal! Been over 30 yrs now, maybe he has forgotten - I haven't.

[10G]

Not angry, just disenchanted with the lack of new age telephony decency even with 40 & 50+ similar age groups finding now [emoji2959]
One goes out of their way to SMS’y some truly needed/requested information and receives back their exact same words with “Liked/Loved” or some other sh#t in front of their original message information.
Have we really become that farkin lazy that we can’t simply reply with: “Thanks got it, appreciated”
We are coming undone folks, maybe just me though no doubt [emoji23][emoji107][emoji107]


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No it's not just you mate. And thanks so much for posting an interesting & thought provoking post. When people go out of their way to write things such as this, that others can read and a discussion is created around its' content, then I believe it adds to the wealth of society.

Thanks again.

[MB]

You’re welcome 10g Mate [emoji120][emoji23]


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[mudski]

When you calculate your rim offset wrong and buy new rims and tyres. One big facepalm this has been....
82923


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[PeeBee]

When you calculate your rim offset wrong and buy new rims and tyres. One big facepalm this has been....
82923


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Is this the start of 'another' thread on what flares should I buy!!!!!! I can understand why you are annoyed mudski. Commiserations.

[MB]

We can fix that guard together no problemo Mark Mate! Could be a good thing, reckon I’ve got some thin flat plate strips hiding in the shed that could assist [emoji106][emoji106]




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[mudski]

Is this the start of 'another' thread on what flares should I buy!!!!!! I can understand why you are annoyed mudski. Commiserations.

Yeah just too much happening in life at the moment and trying to cram everything into my inadequate brain right now isn’t working. Work is crazy busy, extension going on and things we have to do on our part for the extension, helping out my elderly dad, two chainsaws need repair before the cutting season starts, plus the trailer, kids want/ needs stuff done also. Wish I could just click my fingers and have it all done.

Another thing that peeves me off.... welding upside down! Gawd! I run a few test welds to get the mig settings right. Do this, my welds are spot on, then climb under the trailer and I’m welding like I spaz! I gave up in the end and just accepted that this is how they are going to be. Spatter burns are great too.

Today has NOT been a good day.


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[mudski]

We can fix that guard together no problemo Mark Mate! Could be a good thing, reckon I’ve got some thin flat plate strips hiding in the shed that could assist [emoji106][emoji106]




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Thanks Mark. I’ll see if I can either, get the rims swapped, or see what shorter axles there are first.


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[PeeBee]

Yeah just too much happening in life at the moment and trying to cram everything into my inadequate brain right now isn’t working. Work is crazy busy, extension going on and things we have to do on our part for the extension, helping out my elderly dad, two chainsaws need repair before the cutting season starts, plus the trailer, kids want/ needs stuff done also. Wish I could just click my fingers and have it all done.

Another thing that peeves me off.... welding upside down! Gawd! I run a few test welds to get the mig settings right. Do this, my welds are spot on, then climb under the trailer and I’m welding like I spaz! I gave up in the end and just accepted that this is how they are going to be. Spatter burns are great too.

Today has NOT been a good day.


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Mark, you may have quite easily got the mig wire sheath on too tight a bend radius and it would not feed correctly - been there numerous times trying to squeeze under the car and get the gun aligned correctly, jump out, test weld again, all good, back under, cocky shit.

[mudski]

Mark, you may have quite easily got the mig wire sheath on too tight a bend radius and it would not feed correctly - been there numerous times trying to squeeze under the car and get the gun aligned correctly, jump out, test weld again, all good, back under, cocky shit.

Quite possible mate. I probably should have pulled the old arc welder out in hindsight.


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[MB]

Flip IT [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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[Rossco]

Yeah ther difference in welding where your nice and comfortable vs upside down contosionist with ya helmet wedged between an axle is quite substantial. . At least no one wil lie under there and criticise hopefully . . .

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[mudski]

Flip IT [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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Trailers to heavy for little me to flip. I thought hard about how to flip it and it just too heavy.


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[nissannewby]

Trailers to heavy for little me to flip. I thought hard about how to flip it and it just too heavy.


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Are you doing your test welds upside down? You will need different settings when welding upside down compared to horizontal down hand.

[mudski]

Are you doing your test welds upside down? You will need different settings when welding upside down compared to horizontal down hand.

I did not know this, but it makes sense. Gravity will want to pull the molten metal away from where its supposed to go. Too late now...

[Tip12345]

up the voltage do it in short blobs . you need plenty of throttle! I hate overhead welding but always end up with a bit to do .

[Truckus]

Bloody Optus. Always no signal when you need your bloody mobile to make and take calls at home....why do we have to pay for no service times?

[mudski]

Bloody Optus. Always no signal when you need your bloody mobile to make and take calls at home....why do we have to pay for no service times?

Me, my wife and both kids are all with Telstra. Never had an issue at home for the past four years with service and reception. Now all of a sudden since about a month ago, can’t complete a call. The person talking too can hear me but I can’t hear them. Sound just cuts out. On all our phones...


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[PeeBee]

Daugter's with Optus, located outside Bainsdale Vic, has not had phone or internet for a month - something to do with a tower fault - unusual for something as steady state as a phone system to be down for so long. Recently my Telstra Iphone has been giving me messages like - you are unable to reach this number from this location, yet I ring on the landline and get straight thru - sitting in Metro melb - who knows - Covid again i suppose

[mudnut]

Hello, My name is Roger...

One week later...

Hello, my name is Chris...

Different name and same voice.

[Sprock]

mudski don’t put a shorter axle under it etc - put bigger guards on the trailer - think of the stability & hi speed cornering ability with the wider track wheels , Cmon man think of the race aspect . I always focus on the hi payload / fast handling characteristics mate .

[Mickhead]

Are you doing your test welds upside down? You will need different settings when welding upside down compared to horizontal down hand.
Or just TIG it

[mudski]

mudski don’t put a shorter axle under it etc - put bigger guards on the trailer - think of the stability & hi speed cornering ability with the wider track wheels , Cmon man think of the race aspect . I always focus on the hi payload / fast handling characteristics mate .

I got a shorter axle only 90mm shorter and it’s still wider than it was. Got a 1T rated axle too. AndI've seen the way you drive, you need the wider wheel track more than anyone. Hahahaha!


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[mudski]

Or just TIG it

Bit hard when I don’t own a tig.


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[Mickhead]

Bit hard when I don’t own a tig.


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If you weld a bit best you buy one then 😂😂😂

[Winnie]

People in business not keeping their word. We have plans and permit to built a deck verandah off the back of our house and were committed to a builder. We were good to him and understanding when he kept delaying the job and in the end he pulled out from the job and left us in the lurch.
Now we have organised a visit from 3 other builders and none of them have shown up when they said they would. Incredibly frustrating as it was supposed to be finished end of January!
If anybody knows a reliable builder in the Latrobe Valley I am all ears!

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[mudski]

People in business not keeping their word. We have plans and permit to built a deck verandah off the back of our house and were committed to a builder. We were good to him and understanding when he kept delaying the job and in the end he pulled out from the job and left us in the lurch.
Now we have organised a visit from 3 other builders and none of them have shown up when they said they would. Incredibly frustrating as it was supposed to be finished end of January!
If anybody knows a reliable builder in the Latrobe Valley I am all ears!

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Welcome to my world at the moment. Except our council are a pack of carnts.

[10G]

Driving to see my dear old Mum on Saturday. Old mongrel in his ute with trailer going to the tip.

I'm coming down hill doing at least 90. He starts to turn, I slow down so he can get out of the way, then he stops across the entire lane. Nowhere to go, off into the bush on the left or into the front of an oncoming car on the right. Somehow we stopped. I blasted the mongrel with the horn, don't think he ever saw or heard us.

[PeeBee]

Welcome to my world at the moment. Except our council are a pack of carnts.

Submitted a change to the council for the building envelope relocation, went into council Dec 15, chased up the building planners and they rang the council to find they had 'forgotten to submit' to the CFA for assessment, so we wait some more. planners invoice paid before Xmas as a support to local business. Not all that thrilled.

Also found out there is a regional building materials shortage due to a pile of home re-builds finally getting approvals ticked off by the council, so does not affect us now, just hope its a short-ish term issue. Looking for a good concreter in east gippsland also to put down my shed slab.

[Winnie]

We have been lucky with council, permit was issued less than 24 hours after the application went in. I will call my dad at lunch today Phil and ask for a recommendation for a concreter.

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[PeeBee]

We have been lucky with council, permit was issued less than 24 hours after the application went in. I will call my dad at lunch today Phil and ask for a recommendation for a concreter.

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Thanks Chris, still 4-5 months before we get possession, but want to pull the pin straight away we get access. Bit of design work to do, find the shed, route for underground power and water etc.

[Winnie]

People in business not keeping their word. We have plans and permit to built a deck verandah off the back of our house and were committed to a builder. We were good to him and understanding when he kept delaying the job and in the end he pulled out from the job and left us in the lurch.
Now we have organised a visit from 3 other builders and none of them have shown up when they said they would. Incredibly frustrating as it was supposed to be finished end of January!
If anybody knows a reliable builder in the Latrobe Valley I am all ears!

Sent from my SM-G986B using TapatalkGot onto another recommendation for somebody local who answered my call, helpful and professional on the phone, appointment made and can start within the next 2 weeks.
We will see how it goes but sounds like we are finally onto something!

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[mudski]

We have been lucky with council, permit was issued less than 24 hours after the application went in. I will call my dad at lunch today Phil and ask for a recommendation for a concreter.

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Thats quick. We were made to pay $600 for an advertising board out the front stating what we want to do. There board never went up even though we had to pay... Carnts, again.

[Truckus]

Tee Kay test shifting yellow while investigating why my reservoir was pressurizing when still cold...now organising warranty fix.

[mudski]

Fcuking builders lying to me!!!!:furious:

[Hodge]

Fcuking builders lying to me!!!!:furious:Mate you're gonna lose your hair due to your Reno nightmare ..
We gotta go away to unwind a bit !

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[mudski]

Mate you're gonna lose your hair due to your Reno nightmare ..
We gotta go away to unwind a bit !

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I wish... It got worse last night due to the carelessness of trades people. Stressed like you wouldn't believe right now. I need a drink.

[mudnut]

mudski Is it worth becoming an Owner Builder?

[jay see]

mudski Is it worth becoming an Owner Builder?We did this on our last place after the builder put himself into liquidation. So much of a headf@#k.

Yes, it's probably more expensive, but your mental health will thank you. Trust me Mark, it took me to a bad place so much that we sold what was meant to be our home to retire in..

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[mudski]

mudski Is it worth becoming an Owner Builder?

No. I work full time. I'm away from home 11 1/2hrs a day so I simply don't have the time.

I'm actually gobsmacked by the, carelessness, dontgiveafuckness or lack of using a brain by some of the trades that come through, rustynail knows what I mean. Its too hard to explain here, but the amount of issues in the last three days have left me feeling gutted. I'm actually really emotionally and mentally drained this week from what has happened, if there not five $$$$$ figures in fcuk ups this week I will bare my ass in Myers!

Im sure when its all done and in twelve months or whatever time it will be all forgotten. I've built a house before, albeit 20 years ago, this stress is next level.

Time to open another bottle of wine...

[jay see]

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[MB]

West Australian Y62 jealousy is my curse tonight! [emoji23]
I plow stinky arse manure with a rusty farm gate contraption dragged behind a Y60 and if I’m lucky a Y61 [emoji106]
Them Blokes behind them tough borders have got 110% Covid Free produce export laughing at us TIts [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
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Millionaires I says, $30 needed for a bowl of Guacamole [emoji1649][emoji23][emoji106]


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West Australian Y62 jealousy is my curse tonight! [emoji23]
I plow stinky arse manure with a rusty farm gate contraption dragged behind a Y60 and if I’m lucky a Y61 [emoji106]
Them Blokes behind them tough borders have got 110% Covid Free produce export laughing at us TIts [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
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Millionaires I says, $30 needed for a bowl of Guacamole [emoji1649][emoji23][emoji106]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAye they'd be from Queersland
,we've been finish pickin already....but ueah buy some n fall I love with them,
GottaLuvEm....there the best ones we produce over here

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[Hodge]

Stop and help they said . It'll be fun they said ...
Bloke on his bike crossing the road about 100m ahead of me goes ass over head good and proper.
I stop on the side closer to him to see if he's alright. ( He was fine).
For the next 5 minutes every person in the vicinity and the cars driving past instantly assumed I hit him, hurling abuses at me. Another couple riding past , I over heard the bloke say "this is why I question Bull Bars....." or something like that ... Hectic I tell ya.

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[threedogs]

Hodge dont you get 25 points for knocking a guy with a bike over,
Oh how things have changed he he
stay safe eh
some ppl have nothing better to do than assume it was your fault.

[MickJ2017]

Hi all. I have a 02 GU and on my way home from work everything in my dash stopped working fuel gauges, speedo, taco, temp gauge and all lights? Any one had this issue or know what the problem is, input would be muchly be appreciated.

[TPC]

Hi all. I have a 02 GU and on my way home from work everything in my dash stopped working fuel gauges, speedo, taco, temp gauge and all lights? Any one had this issue or know what the problem is, input would be muchly be appreciated.

Sounds like a blown fuse to me

[Plasnart]

Slimey, dodgy, pressure-selling used car salesmen. Fair dinkum how many times does a bloke have to ask for a final price and explain no papers being signed on the spot. No less than 5 times he won't confirm a price and keeps saying "so you wanna sign a deal today?" What the absolute fk?? Motherless bastards get their way with the weak, honestly dunno how they sleep. All day, every day Werribee.

[Avo]

Slimey, dodgy, pressure-selling used car salesmen. Fair dinkum how many times does a bloke have to ask for a final price and explain no papers being signed on the spot. No less than 5 times he won't confirm a price and keeps saying "so you wanna sign a deal today?" What the absolute fk?? Motherless bastards get their way with the weak, honestly dunno how they sleep. All day, every day Werribee.Grab the paper work,put a price n ask him to sign,n be in a hurry as it's not gunna last to long

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[Avo]

In saying that,I've drivin back over 400km from the big smoke n the salesman still ringing me asking if it's a deal...
At the time the yard in mention was on a busy big smoke highway.....I asked him if he could talk to me behind the high car yard fence....when he asked why I said atheist you could try n fuck me over back there n not infront of all this traffic out here.. bwhaaaa

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[mudnut]

Ordered a front E locker before Christmas. Was informed, today, that it was at least an eight month wait. Cancelled the order, and bought an aquarium instead.

[Rossco]

Oh well close enough should do the job. .

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[Mickhead]

Someone is attempting to rename the Golden Gaytime. The word Gay meant happy long before the closet doors opened. Just fark off and find something better to do with your time instead of annoying the quiet majority.

[mudnut]

Oh well close enough should do the job. .

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I suppose to feel like I've been offroad all I have to do is fill the tank with mud, and occasionally plunge my hands in it.

[Rossco]

I suppose to feel like I've been offroad all I have to do is fill the tank with mud, and occasionally plunge my hands in it.I spose you better throw s#!toads of money in there just cos too . . [emoji1787]

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[MB]

Someone is attempting to rename the Golden Gaytime. The word Gay meant happy long before the closet doors opened. Just fark off and find something better to do with your time instead of annoying the quiet majority.

Happiest and most delicious Coffee flavoured ice creams ever [emoji106][emoji106] If they fark with my old Barney Banana I’ll be sure to stick a modern Rainbow Paddle Pop clean up some doodoo gooders Russell [emoji23]


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[Plasnart]

Happiest and most delicious Coffee flavoured ice creams ever [emoji106][emoji106] If they fark with my old Barney Banana I’ll be sure to stick a modern Rainbow Paddle Pop clean up some doodoo gooders Russell [emoji23]


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Never liked the rainbow flavour. Always made me gag.

[10G]

Ordered a front E locker before Christmas. Was informed, today, that it was at least an eight month wait. Cancelled the order, and bought an aquarium instead.

There has to be a funny one liner in there somewhere, but I can't see it. Sounds a bit fishy.

[Mickhead]

Happiest and most delicious Coffee flavoured ice creams ever [emoji106][emoji106] If they fark with my old Barney Banana I’ll be sure to stick a modern Rainbow Paddle Pop clean up some doodoo gooders Russell [emoji23]


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Might take 3 of them duct taped together to have any effect 😂😳

[Grant209]

A little Annoyed.

Have a Cracked Mounting Bracket on My Exhaust Dump Pipe, the bracket has pulled away from the Catalytic Converter Body, meaning I have a couple small holes in the Catalytic Converter and extra stress on my Turbo casing as a result.

Had booked My Patrol in last Wednesday to have the Dump Pipe pulled off and the Bracket rewelded. Was going to coast around $300 to have it all done, but then found 3" Replacement Exhaust Systems on the Net costing between from $550 to $1000 with rather good reviews, so decided to replace the whole exhaust system rather then just undertake what might be a temp repair.

Website said In-stock. Should had rang before placing my order online, almost a week later and I find out it won't be available for shipment for another week or even two . . . .

And that's the worrying thing for me, as I have an unsupported Dump Pipe placing extra stress on my Turbo Body . . . not happy.

My Exhaust doesn't have all the component's ready for shipment, and they (2x Pieces) need to be made up.

Would had been nice to have know at Point of Sale the kit wasn't ready for immediate shipping, would had searched around to find a Supplier who could ship straight away.

Might had a new system installed by now, might had been able to head down to Canberra tomorrow to watch the RAAF's Bi-centenary Fly-By . . . Not happy Camper 🙁

[mudnut]

My experiences of ordering stuff online have been 95% bad. That is to say, defective, wrong model, or not going to be available for ages. I have a brand new starter for a Nissan Navara, sitting in a box from Patrolapart, instead of the One for the RB30. I got it early last year, and a mechanic tried to fit it six month later and the truth was revealed. So returning it is out of the question.

Buying local is expensive, but warranty, and repair is so worth it.

Does anyone want to buy a Navara starter?

[Winnie]

Have you spoken to Patrolapart about it? They are generally very understanding and good to deal with.

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[mudnut]

To tell you the truth, I had shelved it and keep forgetting to do something about the bloody thing. Grant209's post Jogged the memory box.

EDit: Call made , and will have a decision within a day or so.

[Grant209]

My experiences of ordering stuff online have been 95% bad. That is to say, defective, wrong model, or not going to be available for ages. I have a brand new starter for a Nissan Navara, sitting in a box from Patrolapart, instead of the One for the RB30. I got it early last year, and a mechanic tried to fit it six month later and the truth was revealed. So returning it is out of the question.

Buying local is expensive, but warranty, and repair is so worth it.

Does anyone want to buy a Navara starter?

mudnut,

Yep . . . know where your coming from, I'm generally cautious about purchasing stuff on-line. Where ever possible I'll try to go into the store and have a little walk around the store and check out what I'm looking for when ever possible before I purchase a significant item.

I've dealt with Patrolapart a couple of times, and generally found them quiet helpful being a New Comer to GU Patrols.

Grant

[MB]

Never liked the rainbow flavour. Always made me gag.

Get one of these new flavoured ones deep down your throat Plassy Mate!
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Streets isn’t going down without a fight, deliciously Happy Time here tonight [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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[Plasnart]

Get one of these new flavoured ones deep down your throat Plassy Mate!
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Streets isn’t going down without a fight, deliciously Happy Time here tonight [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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[Plasnart]

Get one of these new flavoured ones deep down your throat Plassy Mate!
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Streets isn’t going down without a fight, deliciously Happy Time here tonight [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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I gotta get me one of them for the display mate. Add it to my Coon cheese, Redskins and Chickos packs on display high up in the kitchen. What was never racist but now cancelled I have on display to remind me we were not always so hysterical.

[mudnut]

Amazing technology, phones. You talk to a voice and they say its all good to return the starter motor. Onya, Patrolapart.

[Truckus]

Finding out after an engine inspection, that not only are both head gaskets farked, also the pistons have corrosion and the bore hones are corroded and almost wiped. Looks like a 20 thou over rebuild is now an the cards.

Now I inherited this build (so paid good money for the car in October 20), and continued evolving the truck. At the time of purchase there was absolutely no indication of any engine issues present, the service history looked great. and the engine only had 15000 kms on it, with 31 months warranty still left on it. Previous owner swore never had any issues with it.

Anyhow, turns out he was full of shit, and still is denying any issues with the engine. Sure, I made a claim under warranty to Brunswick, who sent me to Blackheath auto for the head gasket repair, and during the inspection after they pulled the donk, they found the above. They notified Brunswick and sure enough Greg goes hunting for service history. Now would you all believe what he comes up with.

See pdf invoice dated a month before I bought the car, and ironically the service log from the 1000, 5000, and 10000 km services are completed in the log, so I was about to do the 15000 when the over pressure issue started.

83288

Evidently that was done when needed in Sept 20, when the issue was first discovered, but the car service center did not fill out the maintenance log this time (so more deception there), and they added an additive sealant to mask the issue, so the problem could be then on sold to some poor sucker..in this case me.:icon_bonk:

So now instead of a few grand repair Brunswick indicated they would honor, we are now looking at a full rebuild due to the vehicle being driven for another 1000 odd kms, and now who covers what costs is certainly unclear.

I will find out more after the Easter break but for now I am just shitted off to the maximum. Why the silly Can't did not just do a warranty claim earlier has me well fucked....and he still denies any issues with the car, despite me knowing otherwise.

The trouble is I have spent so much more on it, I am sort of committed to getting it fixed, rather than just walking away and copping a huge loss.

I guess the moral is don't trust anyone now these days...and this certainly is a great example of pissed off.:blowup:

[PeeBee]

This has turned to POO very quickly. I suspect the best BD might offer is a 50/50 split over and above the head gasket replacement that they have stumped up on, just a guess. I am very sorry to hear of your problems, and hope it heads in the right direction soon.

[Truckus]

This has turned to POO very quickly. I suspect the best BD might offer is a 50/50 split over and above the head gasket replacement that they have stumped up on, just a guess. I am very sorry to hear of your problems, and hope it heads in the right direction soon.

Yep, at least that would be some consolation as something is better than nothing mate. An expensive lesson learnt.

[Mickhead]

I gotta get me one of them for the display mate. Add it to my Coon cheese, Redskins and Chickos packs on display high up in the kitchen. What was never racist but now cancelled I have on display to remind me we were not always so hysterical.

Someone ate my Chickos and my Coon has gone mouldy but I have a shitload af M8 Wingnuts and this..... 😂😂😂😂83292

[Winnie]

Someone ate my Chickos and my Coon has gone mouldy but I have a shitload af M8 Wingnuts and this..... [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]83292Haha! For some reason I was googling isnack 2.0 last night and those jars are worth money!

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[Plasnart]

Someone ate my Chickos and my Coon has gone mouldy but I have a shitload af M8 Wingnuts and this..... 😂😂😂😂

This is my kitchen trophy wall. What else can I add to remember the good ole days when we didn't cancel everything that could possibly hurt my delicate little feelings that my helicopter parents never let me develop?

83293

[jay see]

,....,.....

[jay see]

This is my kitchen trophy wall. What else can I add to remember the good ole days when we didn't cancel everything that could possibly hurt my delicate little feelings that my helicopter parents never let me develop?

83293Fagshttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/04/34.jpg

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[Plasnart]

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They were nice as a kid! I ended up smoking as a teenager but had nothing to do with these lollies!! Even went a big boss cigar woo hoo!