What has made you Angry Today???????

[10G]

Soooooooo.
Head come off today.
Tests confirmed it was gas in coolent.
Gasket looks ok.
So heads off to be pressure tested and crack tested.
Exhaust manifold warped and egr pipe had a hairline crack in it too...
[emoji25]

On an up side the pistons and bores look great, glow plugs are great and no sign of bad injection spray....
But still pissed.
103*** on it..
Think itll be up for sale once fixed....

With my miniscule amount of knowledge on this, I've been trying to work this out bigguwesty, when you say gas in coolant, do you mean exhaust gas? How'd that get in there?


Had that with mine - warped manifold - local machine shop machined it , id already blocked EGR on drivers side as easier to get at but while manifold etc was off I blocked the other side - I figured it was still getting pressurised as it was blocked at other end so could potentially still crack & whistle .....

And would blocking the EGR around the rear of the motor (or wherever it is) have helped to save Kallen from the problem he has now?

Should we all look at blocking the EGR at that location as well???

[Winnies-missus]

Hard day yesterday saying good bye to my 51 year old aunt :( :( :(

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[BigRAWesty]

Hard day yesterday saying good bye to my 51 year old aunt :( :( :(

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkGeeze to young.
Condolences to you guys.

[BigRAWesty]

With my miniscule amount of knowledge on this, I've been trying to work this out bigguwesty, when you say gas in coolant, do you mean exhaust gas? How'd that get in there?



And would blocking the EGR around the rear of the motor (or wherever it is) have helped to save Kallen from the problem he has now?

Should we all look at blocking the EGR at that location as well???So turns out it was the gasket between cylinder 4 and rear coolent galley.
Head come back in mint condition no cracks and pressure tested perfect..
However this has now fkd me as warranty wont cover jobs where gaskets are at fault.
So on my own now..
House renos just took a hit..
Hard.
Luckily my brother use to work for them and they are doing a good price for me.
I'll be throwing incolnol studs in with the new manifold.
Will also be blanking egr at exhaust manifold..
Fkn thing...

[mudnut]

Mudnutette is renting an old house. She called me to come and fix the leak under her vanity basin. This thing has been leaking so long that there are mushrooms growing out of the floor. I found that the drain is leaking behind an asbestos backed panel. Plumbers were called, and two turned up. They then called another two. After a while they left without fixing the problem. Strangely enough the shrooms are gone.

[Avo]

So turns out it was the gasket between cylinder 4 and rear coolent galley.
Head come back in mint condition no cracks and pressure tested perfect..
However this has now fkd me as warranty wont cover jobs where gaskets are at fault.
So on my own now..
House renos just took a hit..
Hard.
Luckily my brother use to work for them and they are doing a good price for me.
I'll be throwing incolnol studs in with the new manifold.
Will also be blanking egr at exhaust manifold..
Fkn thing...Surely the mechamos can say it was cracked or was warped....i use a nissan dealership with aftermarket warrenty and the bullshitted heaps to help me out.
.i would at least ask n offer a carton of piss

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[BigRAWesty]

Surely the mechamos can say it was cracked or was warped....i use a nissan dealership with aftermarket warrenty and the bullshitted heaps to help me out.
.i would at least ask n offer a carton of piss

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkAll too late mate.
They submitted it all before telling me but would have needed rest results aswell

[Avo]

All too late mate.
They submitted it all before telling me but would have needed rest results aswellYeah bugger when my manifold gasket went the second time they pulled a buggered manifold out from the scrap pile and sent in pics of that..so it was all covered...live n learn i suppose ...

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[mudnut]

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Ahh, that feels better.

[Sprock]

I initially blocked the EGR at R/H side as it was easier to get at , then after a while it developed a ‘whistle ‘ I couldn’t find - turned out to be manifold gasket - manifold warped , got it machined & new gasket , I blocked the EGR pipe on the exhaust side aswell as I couldn’t see any sense in letting it ‘pressurise’ that pipe around the back of the engine - it seemed to be asking for trouble .

[garett]

vomit, vomit everywhere..

[BigRAWesty]

I initially blocked the EGR at R/H side as it was easier to get at , then after a while it developed a ‘whistle ‘ I couldn’t find - turned out to be manifold gasket - manifold warped , got it machined & new gasket , I blocked the EGR pipe on the exhaust side aswell as I couldn’t see any sense in letting it ‘pressurise’ that pipe around the back of the engine - it seemed to be asking for trouble .Yea I'll be blocking exhaust manifold side now.
Just have to supply the blank..

[Hodge]

Gumtree bots are well and thriving.
Within 60 seconds of listing a free item, I get a around 6 messages all from John.Smith type name variations asking if the item is still available.

[PeeBee]

Hate the unprepared 4WD. Coming out of Burgoynes track today, which is quite cut up, 500mm steps in places, sharp projections everywhere, but straight forward for a driver with some experience, so you can imagine what was going on in my head when the I had to reverse backwards up a bloody great hill because some bozo came charging up it. Anyway got to the top with him following me - up the steppy rutty crap - not fun nor easy on the vehicle. So I pull off the track to let him pass and he tells me his story. His mate, sitting in the passenger seat blew an alternator on green Hills track - one of the other feeds into Burgoynes. They were heading in to replace it - happened 3 days ago, so all good, he was in a pathfinderr with half bald all terrains. Asked about the track - he had not done it before but the route was 'quicker' on the map???? he thought.

Right, so have you any recovery gear - NOPE, travelling with someone else - YEP, and then the call comes over the radio that his mate is stuck, basically on the second little pimple hill, and another 20klm of difficult driving to get to the river, then get up Green Hills to fix the car - by the way its 2pm by now. So they walk down the hill and I yelled out - ' if he can't make it past the spot he is on, he won't make it full stop'. Anyway they heed the advice and the driver of the pathfinder returns and declares the track is now open, they have cleared the stranded vehicle and he has graciously agreed to move his vehicle so we can pass.

Here is the pisser - the stranded vehicle was a Subaru wagon complete with road tyres, but it did have a 4" snorkle - The front spoiler was in pieces and it was going nowhere. For me it was simple case of not doing your homework as this track is not for toys. Added to that, right where the track starts at the bitumen, the DSE guys have placed signage saying the track is very rough, proceed at your own risk - wouldn't the penny have dropped that this track, that they had never driven on, arriving late in the day etc etc was not a good choice. For the record they only had to drive thru Licola and could have entered Green Hills from the top.



THEN, when we did get past these clowns, found out someone had rolled a Ford territory and camper trailer on the Burgoynes track coming in from the back approach - first off - not Ford territory territory, second, if you were stupid enough to take a camper trailer into Burgoynes the only safer way is via Green Hill - but there was a broken down vehicle blocking the track!! Unsure of the drivers/passengers condition, we didn't see the territory but heard the camper was hanging off the side of the hill, so would have been terrifying for sure.

[MB]

Wow, time for more Victorian Track Warning Entry signs PB mate :-( !
Sydney closures, here we come soon too :-(


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[Avo]

They did say strong winds...but really nice way to end a long weekend http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/62.jpg

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[Rossco]

Fark that sux mate. In Jurion Bay now after last night getting in and booking room at the hotel motel online but everything shut up by the time we got there. Ended up camping at Sandy Cape pretty blowy there last night. . . Cold & pissing down now . . .

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[Cuppa]

Geez, that's not good Avo. Hope no-one hurt.

Stay safe - looks like there is more to come.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW21038.shtml

[NissanGQ4.2]

Wow, time for more Victorian Track Warning Entry signs PB mate :-( !
Sydney closures, here we come soon too :-(


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Yeh Sydney sucks if ya want 2 go wheeling these days..... sad when I am literally surrounded by thousands upon thousands of Blue Mountains National Park within a 5min drive from home :( Lucky my 4b is going nowhere in a hurry otherwise I would even be more upset

[Clunk]

They did say strong winds...but really nice way to end a long weekend http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/62.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkFark n hell bud. Is that down by the old house?

[Woof]

Fark n hell bud. Is that down by the old house?

On the way to the Marron place near the 1st gate

[Avo]

Fark n hell bud. Is that down by the old house?Yes mate...it ok all insured...i rand the boss and power company not much more anyome can do really

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[Avo]

On the way to the Marron place near the 1st gateFekkin poacher

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[jack]

This has really made me angry, hope they are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/wedge-tailed-eagles-killed-east-gippsland/9859880

[Bidja]

Some farmers and others have a tremendous sense of entitlement and destroy all that is in their way. All the beauty will be lost.

[Hodge]

This has really made me angry, hope they are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/wedge-tailed-eagles-killed-east-gippsland/9859880I saw that all over FB.
A lot are claiming that there has been aerial baiting in the area recently, done by the same body that's doing the investigation.


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[mudski]

I saw that all over FB.
A lot are claiming that there has been aerial baiting in the area recently, done by the same body that's doing the investigation.


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An autopsy on the birds will show if the same poison has been used. Thats a lot of birds dead, I imagine it would take a really long time to plant enough bait to kill this many birds if it were a single person doing it by hand, so I can see how the conspiracy has become...

[mudnut]

Live like you're gunna die tomorrow. Farm like you'll live forever. John Marsden

[PeeBee]

My daughter lives nearby and the word is poison laced rabbits by a farmer trying to reduce bird attack mortality of young lambs. I am sure this is a frustrating chain of events for the farmer, however you would hope a better response could have been enacted - then again I am not living his story either and don't have the burden of the financial loss. I don't condone his response but can understand his actions.

[10G]

So turns out it was the gasket between cylinder 4 and rear coolent galley.
Head come back in mint condition no cracks and pressure tested perfect..
However this has now fkd me as warranty wont cover jobs where gaskets are at fault.
So on my own now..
House renos just took a hit..
Hard.
Luckily my brother use to work for them and they are doing a good price for me.
I'll be throwing incolnol studs in with the new manifold.
Will also be blanking egr at exhaust manifold..
Fkn thing...

Hey Kallen, sorry about all that shite mate, bloody bugger you can't get anything done with warranty. I'd help you some way if I could but I'm pretty crap with spanners and stuff.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I saw that all over FB.
A lot are claiming that there has been aerial baiting in the area recently, done by the same body that's doing the investigation.


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Would not surprise me if it was, our National Parks and Wildlife here in the Blue Mountains openly admit using 1080 (sodium fluoroacetate) baits within our National Parks for the killing of Wild Dogs....... and anything else that comes across it and eats it, and the chain reaction that occurs..... dog eats bait, dog dies birds scavenge on dog, bird dies.... so on and so on

Agriculture Victoria also openly admits 2 aerial baiting using the same toxic stuff for wild dogs in VIC, although I do not know if the area in East Gippsland is on there list of baiting areas, although I'm sure by now if it was its been removed

Sad such beautiful birds are now dead regardless who is 2 blame :(

[jack]

Would not surprise me if it was, our National Parks and Wildlife here in the Blue Mountains openly admit using 1080 (sodium fluoroacetate) baits within our National Parks for the killing of Wild Dogs....... and anything else that comes across it and eats it, and the chain reaction that occurs..... dog eats bait, dog dies birds scavenge on dog, bird dies.... so on and so on

Agriculture Victoria also openly admits 2 aerial baiting using the same toxic stuff for wild dogs in VIC, although I do not know if the area in East Gippsland is on there list of baiting areas, although I'm sure by now if it was its been removed

Sad such beautiful birds are now dead regardless who is 2 blame :(

Pretty much confirmed it was intentional, bodies were hidden at different locations so they may not have found the total number yet. Looks like a farm manager/worker tipped off Victoria's Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP).

As a child I remember dead eagles strung up along the fences near what is now Langi Ghiran Sate Park, it was open slather on them fifty years ago. They are still recovering around the Pyrenees Ranges after a family of eight were poisoned about ten years ago.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Pretty much confirmed it was intentional, bodies were hidden at different locations so they may not have found the total number yet. Looks like a farm manager/worker tipped off Victoria's Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP).

As a child I remember dead eagles strung up along the fences near what is now Langi Ghiran Sate Park, it was open slather on them fifty years ago. They are still recovering around the Pyrenees Ranges after a family of eight were poisoned about ten years ago.

Intentional by a farmer although illegal is really no different to Agriculture Victoria / DELP or whoever in power doing the exact same thing using 1080 aerial baiting, outcome is the same.

And of course if they ( Agriculture Victoria / DELP ) did bait and it went wrong of course they would say it was a farmer..... we found "hidden" bodies

[Hodge]

And again... Ordered a bunch of things from eBay last friday. Some things from mainland China, some from Autoelec Bairnsdale.
Got tracking codes by Friday evening for all.
Today all China things arrived, stuff from Bairnsdale still in transit... Auspost and NBN go hand in hand.

[Plasnart]

And again... Ordered a bunch of things from eBay last friday. Some things from mainland China, some from Autoelec Bairnsdale.
Got tracking codes by Friday evening for all.
Today all China things arrived, stuff from Bairnsdale still in transit... Auspost and NBN go hand in hand.

Unreal isn't it. See that mansion ex-Oz Post CEO was selling recently? Fair dinkum.....

[the evil twin]

I've been buying a few First Aid supplies ex England recently... usually take 8 to 10 Calendar days from order to my door and are about 1/4 to 1/3rd the price.

What I don't get is that the Auspost delay appears to be in the 'initial phase', maybe the pick up or the first sorting or maybe its an east coast thing.
The stuff from OS to Perth seems to arrive within 2 days max of getting into Oz

[PeeBee]

Driving to work this morning and a black vw golf driving in opposite direction to me, in a construction zone, deliberately changes course and drives into the front drivers side of the car, I managed to swerve left and she glances off me, then keeps going. One of the construction guys jumps in a ute and takes off in hot persuit to get rego number, then as I am inspecting the damage with the workcrew, she returns, at speed, zig zagging thu the work site, ignores pleas to stop and disappears past me again. Went down to the local copshop and they took down details and said they would visit her and see about getting her licence and insurance details. If she gives them, then its a simple civil matter - WTF??? Left the scene of an accident twice, speeding in construction zone, crossed solid white lines, and simply too much effort to prosecute these breaches. I said how come, well constable plod replies, she might have been late dropping the kids off to school or late for a pick up, who knows. So, dropping the kids off on time is more important that complying with the law. Not happy. I now have to waste my time, which is money getting quotes and dropping the vehicle off for repairs. Worst she would get is leaving scene of an accident but depending on her excuse this might just rest as nothing.

[mudski]

Report it to another cop shop Phil. Thats not good enough...

[PeeBee]

Yep, got onto my brother who is in the job, one of his mates is actually the motor accident controller at Knox, and he was called and is not impressed by the feedback on what I was told, so he is taking it by the horns on monday unless the driver fronts with the required info. Right now the driver is claiming she didn't know who was driving her car at 8.30am, and is not answering the phone anymore. Knox coppers need to do a face to face i reckon, however i suspect she is going to get charged with a number of offences as they smell a rat and have seen it a thousand times before. She is currently looking at a $600 fine, immediate loss of licence for 3 yrs, plus plus plus.... Me, i am on hold to the insurance company trying to lodge a claim!!!!

[jay see]

It's unfortunate that to get results it's who you know. Good luck..

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[PeeBee]

It's unfortunate that to get results it's who you know. Good luck..

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You're right, its rubbish, but in order for me to get this resolved and the car fixed, without having to use my insurance cover and pay the excess, i need a bit of help.

[mudski]

You're right, its rubbish, but in order for me to get this resolved and the car fixed, without having to use my insurance cover and pay the excess, i need a bit of help.

Seems to me Phil the driver was under the influence and is trying to buy time ...


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[PeeBee]

Seems to me Phil the driver was under the influence and is trying to buy time ...


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Well I don't know the process of belated testing, or if they would even bother, but her driving was erratic at best. Bit sad if this was the case at 8.30am.

Hey check your PM pls.

[MudRunnerTD]

Blown rear diff in the GUIV!!! Damn it to Hell. Was not on my list but 4.1s going in.

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[MB]

How the...? When where did this happen Daz?


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[MudRunnerTD]

How the...? When where did this happen Daz?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkTook it out to grab dinner last night and had a couple.of big bangs and thought wtf!!

Felt like a trailing arm had broken or something.

Damn it. Centre out now. Crown and Pinion look brand new!!!

Spider gears are chomped to hell though!!

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[MB]

Bugger mate! Maybe stick an Air Locker in it, crown does look fine!


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[MudRunnerTD]

Bugger mate! Maybe stick an Air Locker in it, crown does look fine!


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Yeah timing is terrible for a locker. I am swapping ratios while its out and would live to throw in a front locker damn it. Will need to do the feont diff next weekend.

[Maxhead]

Blown rear diff in the GUIV!!! Damn it to Hell. Was not on my list but 4.1s going in.

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Bummer!
Wonder what happened there mate?
Hope you get it sorted quick


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[MudRunnerTD]

Bummer!
Wonder what happened there mate?
Hope you get it sorted quick


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Thanks mate. Already sorted some 4.1s but cant get them until tomorrow night damn it. Will refit the rear tomorrow night and rebuild the front next weekend.

[Hodge]

Thanks mate. Already sorted some 4.1s but cant get them until tomorrow night damn it. Will refit the rear tomorrow night and rebuild the front next weekend.

No good Darren mate ! Maybe too much torque juice around the corners from your Borg Warner !
I'm assuming you had factory 3.9's in there?

[MudRunnerTD]

No good Darren mate ! Maybe too much torque juice around the corners from your Borg Warner !
I'm assuming you had factory 3.9's in there?

Yeah 3.9s. Its always been a kick ass LSD. Clearly too good.!!!

Seriously thinking about theowing a Locker into the front.........

[mudski]

Took it out to grab dinner last night and had a couple.of big bangs and thought wtf!!

Felt like a trailing arm had broken or something.

Damn it. Centre out now. Crown and Pinion look brand new!!!

Spider gears are chomped to hell though!!



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Yeha that sucks. I blew the big H260 in mine last year and the rear wheels just locked up. Happened going through an intersection and I had punched a nice hole the the house using the pinion gear. Lifting a H260 centre out then in by yourself aint easy.
Time for a rear locker Darren!

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeha that sucks. I blew the big H260 in mine last year and the rear wheels just locked up. Happened going through an intersection and I had punched a nice hole the the house using the pinion gear. Lifting a H260 centre out then in by yourself aint easy.
Time for a rear locker Darren!

Yeah dragging this out laying on my back sux mate. Nah i have always been stoked with the rear LSD so im thinking a front locker might go in though.

[MB]

Thinking Dollar wise only for now Daz mate, keep the highway family touring 3.9s, drop in the $1k Spider replacement rear (onboard compressor already ?) and spend the remaining on LR reductions possibly? Sell the 4.1s to pay for it all, maybe?
EDIT: with spare change to save for front AL too?

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[PeeBee]

That make great sense MB, but then again not my truck!!

[mudski]

Thinking Dollar wise only for now Daz mate, keep the highway family touring 3.9s, drop in the $1k Spider replacement rear (onboard compressor already ?) and spend the remaining on LR reductions possibly? Sell the 4.1s to pay for it all, maybe?
EDIT: with spare change to save for front AL too?

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Yeah that does make better sense. Get some reduction gears instead. Bloody hanging for mine to turn up.

[MB]

Spare set not yet installed in da shed Mudski mate. You know the drill; Replace when arrived slacker :-)


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[mudski]

Spare set not yet installed in da shed Mudski mate. You know the drill; Replace when arrived slacker :-)


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Yeah I bloody now tempted mate. But no where at home to put these in, other than outside in the cold.

[MB]

Fair call mate ;-)! Dollar wise I too found it betterer to work a full paid weekend and have PatrolApart die grind the box to fit, slacker me be :-)


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[rusty_nail]

Thinking Dollar wise only for now Daz mate, keep the highway family touring 3.9s, drop in the $1k Spider replacement rear (onboard compressor already ?) and spend the remaining on LR reductions possibly? Sell the 4.1s to pay for it all, maybe?
EDIT: with spare change to save for front AL too?

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMate I have a front Al, it's a pain in the butt. The minute you need 4wd your steering becomes infinitely heavier, which means either put up with it and become strong arm Steve or constantly go from 4wd to 2wd and back. Do you have Auto guns on yours still? I'm thinking manual hubs would help my cause alot, maybe it's more of a nessecity when Al are involved?

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[mudski]

Fair call mate ;-)! Dollar wise I too found it betterer to work a full paid weekend and have PatrolApart die grind the box to fit, slacker me be :-)


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What did they sting you for that MB? Just reading through the instructions now. I really cant be bothered....

[mudski]

Mate I have a front Al, it's a pain in the butt. The minute you need 4wd your steering becomes infinitely heavier, which means either put up with it and become strong arm Steve or constantly go from 4wd to 2wd and back. Do you have Auto guns on yours still? I'm thinking manual hubs would help my cause alot, maybe it's more of a nessecity when Al are involved?

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I reckon Marko's referring to an air locker. I like having the choice to be able to turn the locker off and on as required. Yet, some lock an auto locker.

[rusty_nail]

I reckon Marko's referring to an air locker. I like having the choice to be able to turn the locker off and on as required. Yet, some lock an auto locker.Air locker ftw

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[MB]

Was ‘Angry’ once in our shared mountains when my last poorly air supplied setup froze!
Happy overall that any selectable lockers can front ‘off’ a nasty scrabble hairpin climb then ‘on’ again immediately thereafter. Rear selectable lockers IMO add another level too for serious push/shove up them hills and do still need ‘off’ on the real tight turns uphill. FWIW, rear lockers ‘on-only’ downhill is amazing for rocky lowering traction with keeping steering ability up front :-)


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[MudRunnerTD]

Cheers gents. I bit the bullet and grabbed an air Locker today. I was able to get it at Trade and the guy i have bought the diffs off will install it into the front centre for free.

Basically these centres i have bought have come our of a mates project car that has been a shed build for 7 years. He is nearly finished his build and recently bought 4.6s and GU diffs so took these centres out and stripped them of the Airlockers that where in them. They are in pieces on his bench and he put the rear centre back together for me today and i picked it up tonight. Just finished fitting it. He will put the front back together later in the week and putting an airlocker back in it versus an open centre is identical work so he was happy to throw it in for me and setup the backlash etc. I have saved about $700 all up on the locker versus a drive in drive out price. Winner. Could not not do it.

[Sir Roofy]

Talking about Lokers
Its my lower back has blown an air bag
now i understand how in part how o,l mate
3dogs feels on a good day ,got some super
pills goanna rub not bad nice and warm
going up to the vet to get some horse liminent
like penertrine that will give me a boost

[4bye4]

Talking about Lokers
Its my lower back has blown an air bag
now i understand how in part how o,l mate
3dogs feels on a good day ,got some super
pills goanna rub not bad nice and warm
going up to the vet to get some horse liminent
like penertrine that will give me a boost

Sounds like a duct tape AND WD40 job. Got a fair idea of what you are going through. Best of luck with it hope it improves soon.

[PeeBee]

So, further to the accident on friday, Police have now advised the vehicle has suspended registration, has been rego checked multiple times in recent months and is known to them. I am waiting to hear what the next steps are but basically if it isn't registered it isn't insured, so this POS is driving around scott free, no repercussions from the law, and I am left with a damaged vehicle and out of pocket, fully frustrated. I don't understand the law, but a reasonable person might think that if a vehicle is unregistered and the police know about it and stop it on multiple times that a threshold needs to be in place and the car impounded. Police can't release a drivers name as they are yet to get the information from the trainee constable who took down my details, and has returned to straightening paper clips or whatever they do at the academy. How bloody hard would you think it is to pick the phone up, call this guy and get the name of the person managing him? Impossible it seems as still waiting for a responses from the plod brigade.
Likely outcome is police issue a demand on the last registered owner to disclose the driver, and failing that disclosure the matter goes to court and they are fined heavily for not supplying the info, but get this, not a single cent of that goes towards fixing my car or paying the insurance excess plus premium increases for the next 5 years due to the claim again my cover. Pissed off max right now.

If they are successful in getting a name, the insurance company has to deal with it and you can bet there is some small print in the exorbitant policy that lets them wriggle out of paying the repairs because the car that hit me was unregistered.

[Winnie]

Is it your Patrol that was damaged?

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[Avo]

PeeBee pritty much to your last paragraph....a friend if mine had the person's details and evrything address thje lot as they live in small town...but the silly bit is tje insurance company couldn't get hold of culprit so my friends vehicle was fixed but they had to pay the excess....


Never mind didnt see unregistered

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[PeeBee]

Is it your Patrol that was damaged?

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No,BMW. Not happy. If they had hit the barge it would have torn the Golf to pieces!

[PeeBee]

PeeBee pritty much to your last paragraph....a friend if mine had the person's details and evrything address thje lot as they live in small town...but the silly bit is tje insurance company couldn't get hold of culprit so my friends vehicle was fixed but they had to pay the excess....


Never mind didnt see unregistered

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Avo, thank for the reply. Its simply frustrating. I, like a lot of others follow the rules and when it comes to the crunch, those that don't, suffer no loss, its the likes of myself that bear the burden. Anyway, I know society isn't perfect, but a cricket bat over this #ricks head is where I am sitting right now. A drive to the post office looks like its cost me a grand. Bloody Australia Post!

[10G]

So, further to the accident on friday, Police have now advised the vehicle has suspended registration, has been rego checked multiple times in recent months and is known to them. I am waiting to hear what the next steps are but basically if it isn't registered it isn't insured, so this POS is driving around scott free, no repercussions from the law, and I am left with a damaged vehicle and out of pocket, fully frustrated. I don't understand the law, but a reasonable person might think that if a vehicle is unregistered and the police know about it and stop it on multiple times that a threshold needs to be in place and the car impounded. Police can't release a drivers name as they are yet to get the information from the trainee constable who took down my details, and has returned to straightening paper clips or whatever they do at the academy. How bloody hard would you think it is to pick the phone up, call this guy and get the name of the person managing him? Impossible it seems as still waiting for a responses from the plod brigade.
Likely outcome is police issue a demand on the last registered owner to disclose the driver, and failing that disclosure the matter goes to court and they are fined heavily for not supplying the info, but get this, not a single cent of that goes towards fixing my car or paying the insurance excess plus premium increases for the next 5 years due to the claim again my cover. Pissed off max right now.

If they are successful in getting a name, the insurance company has to deal with it and you can bet there is some small print in the exorbitant policy that lets them wriggle out of paying the repairs because the car that hit me was unregistered.

That is all crap PB, I went through the same thing last year.

My son was driving our old AU and some pumped up jerk went into the side of him. The jerk was unlicensed and uninsured. The AU was written off. So we were left with no car and no money, or so we thought. Rang up our insurer. They said "oh you're lucky we've just added cover to your policy for being hit by uninsured jerks". I didn't even know.

Our insurer paid out a fair figure, but we still had to spend more to get our son a new car.

Yep, it makes you wonder why you get licensed and insured, just do all the bad stuff, save time & money and if you get caught, don't sweat it, wait a week or 2 and do it all again.

And another thing, getting a stand in car while you get yours fixed or get a new one is a pain in the arse. The time, the cost etc etc.

I wish you could get these people and say OK, all is well, but you have to go and find me a stand in car, deliver it to my address before I need it. Make sure it's covered by any insurance for the time I have it. Also you have to pay for that & when I'm finished with it, you come to my place, pick the car up and return it.

There's hours in that shit as well as all the PITA stuff you have to go through.

[mudski]

That suck ass big time Phil. But the law does protect this sort of scum bag. As I found out last year with the Agent and the turd I bought my house off. Our final out of pocket expenses are 10k for something we did not create. No legal team wanted to take this case on. They all said suck it up, its not worth the chase. Says them who probably earn this amount is a few weeks....

[PeeBee]

That suck ass big time Phil. But the law does protect this sort of scum bag. As I found out last year with the Agent and the turd I bought my house off. Our final out of pocket expenses are 10k for something we did not create. No legal team wanted to take this case on. They all said suck it up, its not worth the chase. Says them who probably earn this amount is a few weeks....

YEP, I know. Its hard to take a philosophical view on this and just accept it as 'life' because the car was immaculate and now its barked up. The coppers have their hands tied to some degree by the law. If the previousy registered owner does not identify the driver the only recourse is to summons them to court and let the court impose a fine that will never get paid, as thats the reason the car has been de-registered by Vicroads in the first place - non payment of outstanding fines - shitfull situation.

[PeeBee]

That is all crap PB, I went through the same thing last year.

My son was driving our old AU and some pumped up jerk went into the side of him. The jerk was unlicensed and uninsured. The AU was written off. So we were left with no car and no money, or so we thought. Rang up our insurer. They said "oh you're lucky we've just added cover to your policy for being hit by uninsured jerks". I didn't even know.

Our insurer paid out a fair figure, but we still had to spend more to get our son a new car.

Yep, it makes you wonder why you get licensed and insured, just do all the bad stuff, save time & money and if you get caught, don't sweat it, wait a week or 2 and do it all again.

And another thing, getting a stand in car while you get yours fixed or get a new one is a pain in the arse. The time, the cost etc etc.

I wish you could get these people and say OK, all is well, but you have to go and find me a stand in car, deliver it to my address before I need it. Make sure it's covered by any insurance for the time I have it. Also you have to pay for that & when I'm finished with it, you come to my place, pick the car up and return it.

There's hours in that shit as well as all the PITA stuff you have to go through.

Got it in one 10G. I didn't take out the additional cover for replacement car as it added another $400 to the premium, but funny enough I have Total Care thru RACV for replacement if the car is un-drivable, so would have been able to use that, however it is drivable, so thats an option I dont have, and if I get it repaird by the repairer of choice, they dont have loan cars. Just shitty about it right now, but I guess that will pass in time.

[mudnut]

Deep breaths, mate. It is a mongrel situation, for sure. After the catastrophe that happened near here,recently, you were all bloody lucky the fool didn't hit anyone and cause bodily harm.

[Yeti's Beast]

Same thing happened to my son, luckily AAMI fixed his car but he had to pay the excess


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[PeeBee]

Thanks Guys, right now its a total waste of effort on everyone's time trying to get a fair compensation out of this scumbag. My brother just rang to say 'move on, its a lost cause'. The coppers wont get anywhere, the car wont be impounded, even if they see the car driving down the road they are not authorised to persue it and pull it over - there is a standing 'smile and wave policy' in place in Vic police to that effect. If this turd does go to court and racks up more fines he won't pay them, plus I am told he can actually go to an independent tribunal and complain she has racked up too many fines and can't afford to pay them, and the tribunal , in most cases cancels the fines and he doesn't have to pay them at any stage of his life. This is the state of the current legal system - total rubbish.
Now, if I saw the vehicle on the road and deliberately rammed it, I would likely be charged and have to pay costs or have my insurance policy cancelled and pay for her vehicle. I still don't have a police report as they are stuffing around trying to find the guy at the academy it seems - must a supreme undercover ghost I reckon.

[Ben-e-boy]

Thanks Guys, right now its a total waste of effort on everyone's time trying to get a fair compensation out of this scumbag. My brother just rang to say 'move on, its a lost cause'. The coppers wont get anywhere, the car wont be impounded, even if they see the car driving down the road they are not authorised to persue it and pull it over - there is a standing 'smile and wave policy' in place in Vic police to that effect. If this turd does go to court and racks up more fines he won't pay them, plus I am told he can actually go to an independent tribunal and complain she has racked up too many fines and can't afford to pay them, and the tribunal , in most cases cancels the fines and he doesn't have to pay them at any stage of his life. This is the state of the current legal system - total rubbish.
Now, if I saw the vehicle on the road and deliberately rammed it, I would likely be charged and have to pay costs or have my insurance policy cancelled and pay for her vehicle. I still don't have a police report as they are stuffing around trying to find the guy at the academy it seems - must a supreme undercover ghost I reckon.

Find out where their car is, mix up some thermite and let it burn? Thermite will burn it good

[TPC]

I am in Port Douglas and had to put a jumper on. It's not meant to get cold here.

[jack]

I am in Port Douglas and had to put a jumper on. It's not meant to get cold here.

Geez Tony, so sorry to hear that NOT! -2.2 here yesterday morning.

[MB]

Yeah thanks Tony, I just got told off for smoking onsite and my packs in the car, frosty down South ya tease!


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[mudski]

My heater core is leaking!!! Faaaark! Guess I knew it would one day but why now when it’s too cold outside to do anything?


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[growler2058]

I was too slow on my first beer at lunch and the second one hit a bit warm up top


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[Avo]

I was too slow on my first beer at lunch and the second one hit a bit warm up top


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[MudRunnerTD]

So fitted the new diff last Monday night in the freezing cold. Trst drove OK. Drove it to werribee today to pick up the front diff and the farrrking thing is whinning its head off!!!! GRRRRRRRGGRGRGRRRR AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH stripping it out tomorrow for another. Damn it.

[PeeBee]

Are these reco or new or s/h? Bit surprising but sounds like a brg or a meshing issue maybe?

[Yeti's Beast]

I see your a Geelong Boy, Mudrunner.
I grew up there till I moved to Qld in 92.
Go see my cousin at Macwreck on Port road. He might be able to find you a decent diff
Cheers


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[MudRunnerTD]

Are these reco or new or s/h? Bit surprising but sounds like a brg or a meshing issue maybe?

Nah it second gand but looked great and was freshly setup. Dropped the oil last night and the magnet in the drain plug is full!! The 1 week old oil that has done maybe 150kms total looks average. I was expecting to reuse it but wont be. This thing has self destructed. It has been parked inside a diff full of oil for 7 years without turning b7t should have been fine.

[MudRunnerTD]

I see your a Geelong Boy, Mudrunner.
I grew up there till I moved to Qld in 92.
Go see my cousin at Macwreck on Port road. He might be able to find you a decent diff
Cheers


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Cheers mate. I sorted another rear that xame out of a car yesterday and had been a daily so should be ok..

[PureCaboose]

grrrrr, was heading off later today for a final inspection and to make an offer on a property (100 acres with house and lots (and lots) of sheds) when I see it come up on Realestate.com with a real estate agent. We have been in constant communication with the owner directly pre-agent and have discussed price and everything, bank is happy etc.

So now we can't go and see it (i am finding out now), and the price advertised is more than we have discussed....

Getting tired of lying shit full people, especially real estate agents.

In the grand scheme of things I am only out a few days of and a few hundred in diesel for our inspections and visits, but the principle of the matter just shits me. She knew we were heading down today to do final inspection and to make an offer on the property, we checked with her on Thursday that we were still good...and last night it went up on RE.com.

so over trying to move now....

[10G]

Deep breaths, mate. It is a mongrel situation, for sure. After the catastrophe that happened near here,recently, you were all bloody lucky the fool didn't hit anyone and cause bodily harm.

You talking about that smash with the log truck into those cars? Have you heard anymore about that?

[mudnut]

They interviewed the local who was trapped. He praised the emergency services. The truck driver was arrested, but I haven't heard much else.

[10G]

They interviewed the local who was trapped. He praised the emergency services. The truck driver was arrested, but I haven't heard much else.

I saw the photos of the smash. I can't believe anyone except the truck driver could have survived, that was a real horror smash.

[10G]

grrrrr, was heading off later today for a final inspection and to make an offer on a property (100 acres with house and lots (and lots) of sheds) when I see it come up on Realestate.com with a real estate agent. We have been in constant communication with the owner directly pre-agent and have discussed price and everything, bank is happy etc.

So now we can't go and see it (i am finding out now), and the price advertised is more than we have discussed....

Getting tired of lying shit full people, especially real estate agents.

In the grand scheme of things I am only out a few days of and a few hundred in diesel for our inspections and visits, but the principle of the matter just shits me. She knew we were heading down today to do final inspection and to make an offer on the property, we checked with her on Thursday that we were still good...and last night it went up on RE.com.

so over trying to move now....

I'd just continue on as if I hadn't seen the advert. The price has probably gone up so the vendor can cover real estate agent fees & commissions.

[Sprock]

10G where was that crash ?

[Hodge]

Noticed an unusual volt drop on my aux battery. No load on it since my last trip a month ago.
Inspected the whole system today, and found the battery has a hairline split in it. Found after I saw drops of what I initially thought was coolant under wheel arch.
I wonder if it's from the heat off the turbo as that corner of the battery was facing the turbo/exhaust side.

Good bye almost brand new full river. Just out of warranty too.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/161.jpg

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[PeeBee]

Is it bulged in the case - can't see from the photo? Bit of an odd one. The battery wasn't loose at all and bounced to crack? Stabbing in the dark a bit with that failure mode .Very odd. Have you contacted Full River?

[10G]

10G where was that crash ?

Sprock Down near Portland in vic.

[Hodge]

Is it bulged in the case - can't see from the photo? Bit of an odd one. The battery wasn't loose at all and bounced to crack? Stabbing in the dark a bit with that failure mode .Very odd. Have you contacted Full River?

It is very odd Phil. It's a fine hairline crack that bleeds acid when I press it in. No bulging.
The battery was definitely not loose or overtight. It had a rubber mat/padding under it and under the top clamp, and wasn't overtight or anything. It's got me stumped.

Under good light, the corner sides nearest to turbo/exhaust are more discolored than the rest of the battery. I will only speculate, heat may have had something to do with this. Who knows. Regardless, battery is stuffed.

[the evil twin]

Check the Part # with Full River site.
They make a LOT of different batteries, vehicle, standby, UPS etc and many are not rated for high temps or high charging rates.

If it is suitable for "vehicle under bonnet" use then I have found Full River very good to deal with in the past albeit that was with UPS batteries

[Hodge]

Check the Part # with Full River site.
They make a LOT of different batteries, vehicle, standby, UPS etc and many are not rated for high temps or high charging rates.

If it is suitable for "vehicle under bonnet" use then I have found Full River very good to deal with in the past albeit that was with UPS batteries

This is the one I had ET.
http://www.fullriverbattery.com/product/batteries/DC85-12


Max temp range is
-40°C to 71°C.
I dare imagine that near the turbo/exhaust the temps would be well in excess of that.
However the battery has been there for more than 2 years and it never suffered any performance loss, until last week or so when I noticed the Varying volts.

[PeeBee]

AGM under bonnet, not recommended I believe./ Max temp on battery 71 degC - bet it gets hotter than that. I thi9nk you need a multi layer heat shield and a wet cell if you are going to persist with that location, plus keep a close eye on the liquid level.

[Yeti's Beast]

Yes most companies won’t warrant an AGM under the bonnet, especially in a Patrol. Don’t get me wrong because there are some AGM designed that can go under bonnet but as we all know the Patrol is one of the hotter engine bays which is why we read so many threads on people trying to find ways to remove the heat such as extra bonnet scoops etc.

But I too are guilty of having an AGM under the bonnet http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/164.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/165.jpg



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[MB]

Guilty as AGM charged also, pardon the pun! Have got another overpriced, yet happy we are, Optima Yellow Top, turbo side on Mrs MB’s TD42T. Have witnessed its top slightly pressurised from the stock turbo shielding over the summer years so should also no doubt consider aftermarket protection layers between the two required parts :-)


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[Yeti's Beast]

I’m also guilty of having a battery (spiral cell) like the Optima as my starting battery


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[MB]

Me too for two under the utes 6.5L non turbo hot as hell bonnet and still trucking on against all apparently unsuitable advice. I do believe though that massive radiant heat does come off the family truckster stock turbo and auxiliary battery placement there we/and or aftermarket battery trays should allow for those inevitable experiences :-)


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[MudRunnerTD]

I bought 2 Optima Yellow top D31 battries for the GU and ran that pair gor 7 years under the bonnet. During that time my bad tune saw my TD run 500+ egts constantly and 500+ for 12 hour stints towing and touring. Those Optimas where awesome!! They died 2 months apart!!

I went to Battery World and bought a pair of AGM Extreme battires because i liked the 135AH rating for each and they where specifically rated for under bonnet.

After 3 months under the bonnet i went to use my compressor one day with the engine off and the second battery was flat as a tack!! Popped the bonnet and it was swallen badly. Checked the drivers and it had also swallen.

Took them both back and they swapped them again. The next one lasted 3 weeks before the psssenger side was a writeoff.

They swapped them out for a pair of D31 Optimas for no charge.

[MB]

Why did our Yanky ‘Odyssey’ friends move out? Plate vertical batteries with sealed epoxy say tops and bottoms for vibrations, too expensive?


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[Yeti's Beast]

Why did our Yanky ‘Odyssey’ friends move out? Plate vertical batteries with sealed epoxy say tops and bottoms for vibrations, too expensive?


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They are still around


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[MB]

They were renowned in circles as the best of the best in their day, what’s your thoughts YB mate, I’ve never owned/used one?


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[Yeti's Beast]

Great cranking but for a short period. Generally last a long time but no good for deep cycle work. Great in race cars


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[Hodge]

I'm more cheesed off at my self, as I HAD the aux battery setup in the rear, and then once I got some draws due to space limitations and no feasable battery spot, I slotted it back in the front.
Either way, heat or not, the battery is rooted now. Even though it was a fairly expensive one for a 85AH. Live and learn. Just spent some time at the rear of the patrol, conjuring up ideas and pretty sure the aux setup is going to the rear again. Most of my wiring is there already so, not a huge job.

[firm351]

Why did our Yanky ‘Odyssey’ friends move out? Plate vertical batteries with sealed epoxy say tops and bottoms for vibrations, too expensive?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIve got 2 odyssey's under the bonnet in my patrol, cant fault them at all. And the best bit...they were free!!http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/172.jpg

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[mudski]

I'm more cheesed off at my self, as I HAD the aux battery setup in the rear, and then once I got some draws due to space limitations and no feasable battery spot, I slotted it back in the front.
Either way, heat or not, the battery is rooted now. Even though it was a fairly expensive one for a 85AH. Live and learn. Just spent some time at the rear of the patrol, conjuring up ideas and pretty sure the aux setup is going to the rear again. Most of my wiring is there already so, not a huge job.

It was suggested to me Eric from someone that if I wanted to have the battery in the rear with draws there also, that I should look at shortening one of the drawers enough so that the battery can sit behind the draws. I was also thinking of some how tucking it in the side above the wheel arch where that pocket is. I let would be half hanging out of course so some fabrication work would have to be done to secure and hide the battery.


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[Hodge]

It was suggested to me Eric from someone that if I wanted to have the battery in the rear with draws there also, that I should look at shortening one of the drawers enough so that the battery can sit behind the draws. I was also thinking of some how tucking it in the side above the wheel arch where that pocket is. I let would be half hanging out of course so some fabrication work would have to be done to secure and hide the battery.


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Markie. You're a mind reader !!!!!
I spent a bit of time this arvo looking at just that and measuring up and getting come bracketry ideas. And I think I've come up with something.
Will lose around 18cm of the draw, which is bugger all. The end of the draw is easy to grind the welds , cut the to size and weld or rivet the end back on. Drill some new holes for the rubber stops and voila!!! Battery hidden away and still easily accesible when you slide the draw slide open.

I got the idea of someone else who has done it on the other patrol forum. Also , there are a few people with shorty GQ's who have shortened them draws to suit the back of the shorty!

Watch this space!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75740&stc=1

[mudski]

Watch this space!



I'll be watching....

[MB]

Hodge mate, jaysee mate did a great mod like that and kindly posted on here a while ago. Squeezed a whopping 140AH behind his shortened drawers he modified himself too. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/185.jpg http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/186.jpg
In his build thread: ‘Jay see 1997 GU build up’ (apologies, don’t know how to hyperlinky to it on Tapatalk)


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[mudski]

Hodge mate, jaysee mate did a great mod like that and kindly posted on here a while ago. Squeezed a whopping 140AH behind his shortened drawers he modified himself too. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/185.jpg http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/186.jpg
In his build thread: ‘Jay see 1997 GU build up’ (apologies, don’t know how to hyperlinky to it on Tapatalk)


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That’s who I heard it from. Bloody rippa idea.


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[Hodge]

Hodge mate, jaysee mate did a great mod like that and kindly posted on here a while ago. Squeezed a whopping 140AH behind his shortened drawers he modified himself too. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/185.jpg http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/06/186.jpg
In his build thread: ‘Jay see 1997 GU build up’ (apologies, don’t know how to hyperlinky to it on Tapatalk)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou're a legend young sir !! Thanks for pointing that one out mate.

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[MB]

Jaysee’s da man!


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[Hodge]

For those interested here is the link to Jaysee's battery / shorten draw job:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=751865

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[garett]

numpties asking stupid questions, not doing what they were meant to, and in general being a waste of O2.

[MB]

Don’t Stress Garrett mate, teach them, we too are Nuffies learning every minute of every day good Bloke:-)


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[the evil twin]

Morons entering a two lane carriageway from the left who... after you see them waiting on the side road and you be a nice dude and change from the LH lane to the RH lane so they have a gap to enter... pull the F#$@ out and cross the LH into the RH lane straight in front of you at, like 20 KPH, instead of crossing behind you.

Makes me sooooo want to round them up & cut in front of them and jam on the picks to give them an ABS check as well.

Only hassle is they prob have a Dash Cam so they can show the world what a great driver they are and what a discourteous SOB you are.

Happened to me twice this morning in the rain... effing dickheads

[mudnut]

Morons entering a two lane carriageway from the left who... after you see them waiting on the side road and you be a nice dude and change from the LH lane to the RH lane so they have a gap to enter... pull the F#$@ out and cross the LH into the RH lane straight in front of you at, like 20 KPH, instead of crossing behind you.

Makes me sooooo want to round them up & cut in front of them and jam on the picks to give them an ABS check as well.

Only hassle is they prob have a Dash Cam so they can show the world what a great driver they are and what a discourteous SOB you are.

Happened to me twice this morning in the rain... effing dickheads

You need to chill, mate. Or build something like this...

[the evil twin]

Ooooooo... me likee velly much

[AB]

I swear I've kicked a hundred cats in a past life!

Haven't been camping or out of this house properly for months, packing the GQ and caravan up to head up the Murray tomorrow and we have severe wind warnings and currently experiencing some nasty gusts damn it!


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[Winnie]

I swear I've kicked a hundred cats in a past life!

Haven't been camping or out of this house properly for months, packing the GQ and caravan up to head up the Murray tomorrow and we have severe wind warnings and currently experiencing some nasty gusts damn it!


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[AB]

Yeah little bit worried about towing this van in high winds.

I'll assess in morning and maybe even just stay the night at Yea or Molesworth caravan park because after that it's all open paddock highways.


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[MB]

Keep packing, change directions if required bro! NW (Mildura) has your best chance of less winter windy bliss, becoming calm Sunday morning stay longer for sure mate!


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[Rossco]

Yeah it's s bit wild took the old Jayco up to Dayslford "glamping" last weekend with Nicole's mates. Crazy head wind heading north up to Whittlesea way.

She'll be right i reckon give it a crack got a nice cosy roof over your head at least. . .

Considering a heater of sorts probably diesel after camping in last weekend's heavy frost, was actually nice plugging in a fan heater until the dog knocked a jumper over it in the night and tried to kill us all. . .

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[Rossco]

Keep packing, change directions if required bro! NW (Mildura) has your best chance of less winter windy bliss, becoming calm Sunday morning stay longer for sure mate!


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[MB]

You will chew some diesel (factor in) heading straight into it ‘partner’ but better than getting side swiped wobbles for sure!

Why do my bosses nag’s always choose spooky nights alike to injure themselves, bloody idiots :-( http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/07/28.jpg


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[AB]

was actually nice plugging in a fan heater until the dog knocked a jumper over it in the night and tried to kill us all. . .

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Bloody princess Jack Russel's

He was probably trying to warm his blanket!


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[MB]

Does bring us all back to Freezing Mexican camping heater safety gents! AB we never finalised diesel heaters exhaust safety and Rossco pretty sure all electrics should by law purchase now have topple over ‘off’ switches for home use at least? Deliberately lived in a 70’s Lino clad caravan in my youth and nearly died from an elecy heater without failsafe’s built in then :-(


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[TPC]

I swear I've kicked a hundred cats in a past life!

Haven't been camping or out of this house properly for months, packing the GQ and caravan up to head up the Murray tomorrow and we have severe wind warnings and currently experiencing some nasty gusts damn it!


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You should head north, 33 deg and fine in Katherine. Been on the road for over 6 weeks and been in shorts every day.

[Hodge]

Does bring us all back to Freezing Mexican camping heater safety gents! AB we never finalised diesel heaters exhaust safety and Rossco pretty sure all electrics should by law purchase now have topple over ‘off’ switches for home use at least? Deliberately lived in a 70’s Lino clad caravan in my youth and nearly died from an elecy heater without failsafe’s built in then :-(


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCannot stress heater safety enough during winter .
Unfortunately majority of my winter time job callouts are house fires mostly caused by left alone heaters and electric blankets ...

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[Bidja]

Going under knife next Tuesday. Have many jobs yet to do. Cleaned space in the shed (yesterday morn) to start change out of rotors and pads. Thought I would get started in the arvo after doing pre-admission surgery appointment at Hospital, but all was so slow, took 5.5 hrs with travel. And then they tell me no lifting 6-8 wks after op, nooo good that.

Having a coffee then brakes are the go.

[the evil twin]

Bastard Telstra... Hate, Hate, Spew, Upchuck, Mongrel, Turds...
Every time you turn around to stop 'em screwing you in the rrse another thing of theirs runs up and bends you over the desk

Maybe there is something behind the philosophy of Kill 'em all, let God decide
(Disclaimer, I speak of the entity not the individuals)

[TPC]

Bastard Telstra... Hate, Hate, Spew, Upchuck, Mongrel, Turds...
Every time you turn around to stop 'em screwing you in the rrse another thing of theirs runs up and bends you over the desk

Maybe there is something behind the philosophy of Kill 'em all, let God decide
(Disclaimer, I speak of the entity not the individuals)

I have just spent 40 minutes on the phone to them as I wanted to temperarly add extra mobile data while I am away and they kept telling me I needed to sign up for a new contract. Ended up asking to speak to someone else and got what I wanted.

[Hodge]

I have just spent 40 minutes on the phone to them as I wanted to temperarly add extra mobile data while I am away and they kept telling me I needed to sign up for a new contract. Ended up asking to speak to someone else and got what I wanted.

Exact same thing happened to me ! Except I walked into their store. Told the bloke I wanted to increase my data prior to being charged their "over-the-limit" fee.
He was adamant that, what I wanted was not possible unless I upgraded to a higher plan...
While he was speaking to his manager I googled and found the add-on data packs my self and shoved it in his face... All they want to do is to sign/re-sign you up for their bonus. I suppose it's inbred into their work descriptions DNA.

I don't mind Telstras prices and I love their network. But dealing with them when things go sour, can really be a frustrating task.

[Avo]

I have just spent 40 minutes on the phone to them as I wanted to temperarly add extra mobile data while I am away and they kept telling me I needed to sign up for a new contract. Ended up asking to speak to someone else and got what I wanted.I just ran out of data to...gave the phone to my daughter and had extra data added in 5 min
...and it's not even in my name as its a work phone.....that person must have been a salesperson working on commission i reckon

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[Avo]

Didn't go fishing today.....

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[TPC]

I just ran out of data to...gave the phone to my daughter and had extra data added in 5 min
...and it's not even in my name as its a work phone.....that person must have been a salesperson working on commission i reckon

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I tried doing it online yesterday and got a message today saying I couldn't add data online because of the plan I am on.

[Hodge]

Just had 4 days off which i dedicated to use to service the gu as well as finish the aux battery install and other work needed on the car .
But ... The lingering cold / virus or whatever I've got , ramped up on Thursday and I've been as crook as the government.
So much for that plan.

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[mudski]

Well. The heater core is definitely leaking. Went for a drive today to Bayswater and now there’s coolant on the mat. Dunno how but I drove the car to work and back one day after my first suspicions and it did not leak one bit. Now I can see it and smell it so now the fun begins. Not!


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[TPC]

Second battery died in the Patrol with 1 week left on my trip, need powered sites for the next week.

Also have a horrible noise on low revs that I suspect may be the belt tensioner, have a spare but really don't feel like crawling under to change it and having dirt falling into my face while doing it. Tried to get into a mechanic in Katherine but they are booked out for over a week.

[Rossco]

Second battery died in the Patrol with 1 week left on my trip, need powered sites for the next week.

Also have a horrible noise on low revs that I suspect may be the belt tensioner, have a spare but really don't feel like crawling under to change it and having dirt falling into my face while doing it. Tried to get into a mechanic in Katherine but they are booked out for over a week.Bugger, yeah i had the solar panel s#!t itself in Exmouth luckily got a new one in town. Hate caravan parks but. . .

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[PeeBee]

How did I achieve this mangled mess - absolutely surprised. 75806

[MB]

Only an honest guess Phil mate! ‘Axle Hill-Burgoyne’ a little rock possibly chipped/started a fold up in there under sleeve and or aftermarket lateral shock absorber loading design. No chance that your shock mounts have ever been modified mate?


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[mudski]

How did I achieve this mangled mess - absolutely surprised.

Under full flex the shocker got caught on the spring? That how I destroyed mine.

[Yeti's Beast]

My stupid clutch is playing up!
Starts grabbing near the floor and goes stiff and not disengaging properly. Grrrr
Next time I stop at the lights it’s back to normal and light as a feather and grabbing 1/4 way off the floor, then back to hard and well u get the picture.
Any clues before I go replacing everything.
The clutch isn’t that old either.
Bloody cars


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[PeeBee]

Only an honest guess Phil mate! ‘Axle Hill-Burgoyne’ a little rock possibly chipped/started a fold up in there under sleeve and or aftermarket lateral shock absorber loading design. No chance that your shock mounts have ever been modified mate?


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Not modified, just had this shocker refurbed by Koni with new valving. I guess a stone could have gotten up there, but Axle Hill is kind of bolder stuff though. Anyway I have a spare so will swap it out and assess the damage, but suspect the body is pushed inwards so will have damaged the new seals and piston I reckon.

[PeeBee]

Under full flex the shocker got caught on the spring? That how I destroyed mine.

What is odd with this possibility is my barge is hardly a flex monster. The rear springs are 400kg constants running airbags as well. I have seen the rears compressed as far as they will go but it takes a fair hole/hump to do that - but i guess its a possibility as you suggest.

[Clunk]

My stupid clutch is playing up!
Starts grabbing near the floor and goes stiff and not disengaging properly. Grrrr
Next time I stop at the lights it’s back to normal and light as a feather and grabbing 1/4 way off the floor, then back to hard and well u get the picture.
Any clues before I go replacing everything.
The clutch isn’t that old either.
Bloody cars


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[Bidja]

Not modified, just had this shocker refurbed by Koni with new valving. I guess a stone could have gotten up there, but Axle Hill is kind of bolder stuff though. Anyway I have a spare so will swap it out and assess the damage, but suspect the body is pushed inwards so will have damaged the new seals and piston I reckon.

Tube dent is worrying, maybe you have the the Raid series with larger 70mm bore, they have the twin tube design for extra protection against stones/dents. Maybe fine. Good spare anyway, new shield or cut away damaged section/crude repair.
I have the smaller Heavy Track series ($ driven at the time).

[PeeBee]

Tube dent is worrying, maybe you have the the Raid series with larger 70mm bore, they have the twin tube design for extra protection against stones/dents. Maybe fine. Good spare anyway, new shield or cut away damaged section/crude repair.
I have the smaller Heavy Track series ($ driven at the time).

No these are the earlier series, purchased maybe 20yrs ago, well before the Raid came out. They have been rebuilt recently, good shocker, maybe 50,000klm old. I ran OME before this and they were OK, but totally rooted, loss of gas, poor dampening, however am considering the OME remote canister units next time.

[Bidja]

No these are the earlier series, purchased maybe 20yrs ago, well before the Raid came out. They have been rebuilt recently, good shocker, maybe 50,000klm old. I ran OME before this and they were OK, but totally rooted, loss of gas, poor dampening, however am considering the OME remote canister units next time.

Had a set (most likely same) on my old swb cruiser, would have been early/mid 80's. Back when you could only buy Bridgestone Desert Duelers for 15" sunrasya rims.

Have used gas /oil and found them too severe on corrugation and then leak - no good for me. OME were my first early 80's, not much else around. GU-Used Bilstien B6 / 2" lift (with modified valving) provide good handling / control but skip around corrugated corners and also had foam cell. Prefer larger bore oil and remote would be my next choice also.

[MB]

Blast from the past, awesome memories thanks Bidja mate!
Old Man’s leafy truck with 80’s OME originals and Desert Duelers got us everywhere too we needed in & outa state.
Far from a shock expert but have been super happy to date with my current utes Koni 90 simple beasts!


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[Ben-e-boy]

No these are the earlier series, purchased maybe 20yrs ago, well before the Raid came out. They have been rebuilt recently, good shocker, maybe 50,000klm old. I ran OME before this and they were OK, but totally rooted, loss of gas, poor dampening, however am considering the OME remote canister units next time.

Can you see a witness mark on where it might be hitting

Edit.

My guess is whatever that nut and bolt is right at the bottom of the pic, airbag mount?

[MB]

EDIT: Ben’s well done surely on the money there Philstar!!


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[Bidja]

Blast from the past, awesome memories thanks Bidja mate!
Old Man’s leafy truck with 80’s OME originals and Desert Duelers got us everywhere too we needed in & outa state.
Far from a shock expert but have been super happy to date with my current utes Koni 90 simple beasts!


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Maybe we just put up with the bit of discomfort, pitching and throwing about, but must say had utmost confidence in what was going on. The old shortie was like a jinker but could go in and get out of mostly anywhere. Remember many good times:

one where we just had to go around one of those gate like things, dropping into a creek bed and winching up out the other side, and another,

when slipping of the track (snow time) sliding gentle down to rest up against a tree. Then out with the high lift jack and of course, near railway iron bars all round, lifted each corner up, put 4 chains under and tractored our way out. So good and next to no damage to truck or landscape, just slow as you go..

i put a 4cyl B series diesel 24 volt start (series / parallel switch-24v start/12v charge) - both batteries tucked in behind bull bar either side of the Thomas pto. see if I can find a pic. (replaced the petrol 2F) not fast at all but pulled so well. Buggrrr when one cell went so discharged both batteries, needed to do a 20km walk one day (no start).

Good times just poking around doing as bit of fishing and getting a fright when ever someone came into hearing distance (was not often).

[Bidja]

Can you see a witness mark on where it might be hitting

Edit.

My guess is whatever that nut and bolt is right at the bottom of the pic, airbag mount?

Well spotted there mate.

[PeeBee]

Can you see a witness mark on where it might be hitting

Edit.

My guess is whatever that nut and bolt is right at the bottom of the pic, airbag mount?

I think you are pretty close. I am guessing its not the bolt but that small projection on the corner plate. I will have a look tomorrow to see if the shocker will compress that much and let you all know. Absolutely gobsmacked if it is as would never have thought I would get that sort of travel out of this suspension. If it is I am going to do some surgery/radius the plate I think as these are too expensive to go tearing apart!! Thanks Ben, Bidja and MB!

[MB]

......Thanks Ben & Bidja!
A few good men!!


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[PeeBee]

A few good men!!


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All right, you can join the gang too MB!!!!

[MB]

Cheers Old Mate :-) !
https://youtu.be/MMzd40i8TfA


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[Ben-e-boy]

I think you are pretty close. I am guessing its not the bolt but that small projection on the corner plate. I will have a look tomorrow to see if the shocker will compress that much and let you all know. Absolutely gobsmacked if it is as would never have thought I would get that sort of travel out of this suspension. If it is I am going to do some surgery/radius the plate I think as these are too expensive to go tearing apart!! Thanks Ben, Bidja and MB!

It would be a good idea to find a flex ramp or a fork lift to flex it up and look for and contact. Ideally a hoist and remove the the springs and cycle the suspensions full range of motion and be able to watch it. To me it lt looks like the shock is contacting in 2 different places. The stone guard and right at the base. 2 different points of contact at 2 different points in the suspension travel. (How I see it anyway)

[PeeBee]

It would be a good idea to find a flex ramp or a fork lift to flex it up and look for and contact. Ideally a hoist and remove the the springs and cycle the suspensions full range of motion and be able to watch it. To me it lt looks like the shock is contacting in 2 different places. The stone guard and right at the base. 2 different points of contact at 2 different points in the suspension travel. (How I see it anyway)

Ben I think your observations are really good. I am a bit mystified about the bottom ding though, so will have a closer look and see if i can find the witness marks.

[Ben-e-boy]

Ben I think your observations are really good. I am a bit mystified about the bottom ding though, so will have a closer look and see if i can find the witness marks.

It'll be the same spot judging by the orientation of those marks, my guess is at full extention, when Installing big bore shocks you cut away the back of the bump stop pad which has been replaced by the airbags mount to clear the bigger bore shocks
Remember that when articulating, at full droop on that side, the lower control arm is swinging down and forward towards the front axle. The upper control arm is doing the same, but because it's shorter it is rotating the diff therefore the pinion downwards. At the same time the panhard rod is swinging down and pulling the diff towards the drivers side because it moves on a perpendicular axis. That's why when stuff has been hitting and is inspected at ride height, the marks dont seem to make sense

[PeeBee]

It'll be the same spot judging by the orientation of those marks, my guess is at full extention, when Installing big bore shocks you cut away the back of the bump stop pad which has been replaced by the airbags mount to clear the bigger bore shocks
Remember that when articulating, at full droop on that side, the lower control arm is swinging down and forward towards the front axle. The upper control arm is doing the same, but because it's shorter it is rotating the diff therefore the pinion downwards. At the same time the panhard rod is swinging down and pulling the diff towards the drivers side because it moves on a perpendicular axis.

This is what I love about this forum, clear knowledgeable feedback, really had no idea what was going on, no enlightened. Thank You.

[MB]

So....Action Plan?


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[PeeBee]

Confirm interference points first, then knock the corners off the brackets. Monitor from there. I dont have access to a set of super ramps or a forklift, and think since this is the first time its happened since june 1997, I might have some time up my sleeve.

[MB]

Nasty twacks they’d be brother, come again for sure :-)


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[PeeBee]

Well, witness marks on the bracket, so airbag has to come out and surgery to the baseplate. Interestingly there is half the clearance on the passenger side to the drivers - diff off center, adjustable panhards req? Damaged shock is rooted, won't compress by hand.

[Bidja]

Well, witness marks on the bracket, so airbag has to come out and surgery to the baseplate. Interestingly there is half the clearance on the passenger side to the drivers - diff off center, adjustable panhards req? Damaged shock is rooted, won't compress by hand.

Lift more than 2", would say adjustable panhards would be needed to bring diff back to center. Would look at F/R.

That shock took a hiding.

[Ben-e-boy]

Well, witness marks on the bracket, so airbag has to come out and surgery to the baseplate. Interestingly there is half the clearance on the passenger side to the drivers - diff off center, adjustable panhards req? Damaged shock is rooted, won't compress by hand.

Where do mean clearance? Also note that the shock mounts aren't symmetrical from factory. Look at then in relation to the hub on each side

[PeeBee]

Where do mean clearance? Also note that the shock mounts aren't symmetrical from factory. Look at then in relation to the hub on each side

OK, finished for the day, will look later. By difference in clearance I mean from shocker body to the air bag mount plate. Drv side maybe 25mm, passenger maybe 12mm

[PeeBee]

Lift more than 2", would say adjustable panhards would be needed to bring diff back to center. Would look at F/R.

That shock took a hiding.

Hard to actually say what the lift is as I correct it via the airbags. i can have it sitting level or raised, just depends on the load, and then the tracks. If too high it rides hard, but too low and i catch reaw rear bar on drop offs too much.

[Bidja]

Hard to actually say what the lift is as I correct it via the airbags. i can have it sitting level or raised, just depends on the load, and then the tracks. If too high it rides hard, but too low and i catch reaw rear bar on drop offs too much.

Yeah Phil, understand your height adjust routine, mine is no where near as beefed up like your, but I run red series polyair with dobinsons 2" with 120kg millweld rear bar hanging off the back.

To work out your lift height, I suggest set your truck level (your nominal preferred ride ht) with air airbags and measure from under the top center of guard face down to the wheel rim bottom lip (bead lip) and compare this against the stock build height. I mention bottom lip, as it is easy to measure to that point instead of to hub center. If you get your hands on the guard to hub center measurement, just add the wheel lip dia divided that by 2 and this will be the ht measurement you would compare against yours (distance measured between under guard face to bottom lip).

To measure your rear axle/diff position (left / right of the vehicle neutral longitudinal axis). Drop a plumb line (string or straight edge) vertically down from say inside face of each chassis rail (@ same relative position for both chassis rails) and measure horizontal distance across from this line (each chassis rail) to adjacent wheel rim lip (for example). This would provide a horizontal linear measurement difference (if any) of the axle/diff housing, actual position, from left to right relative to vehicle center..

[PeeBee]

Yeah Phil, understand your height adjust routine, mine is no where near as beefed up like your, but I run red series polyair with dobinsons 2" with 120kg millweld rear bar hanging off the back.

To work out your lift height, I suggest set your truck level (your nominal preferred ride ht) with air airbags and measure from under the top center of guard face down to the wheel rim bottom lip (bead lip) and compare this against the stock build height. I mention bottom lip, as it is easy to measure to that point instead of to hub center. If you get your hands on the guard to hub center measurement, just add the wheel lip dia divided that by 2 and this will be the ht measurement you would compare against yours (distance measured between under guard face to bottom lip).

To measure your rear axle/diff position (left / right of the vehicle neutral longitudinal axis). Drop a plumb line (string or straight edge) vertically down from say inside face of each chassis rail (@ same relative position for both chassis rails) and measure horizontal distance across from this line (each chassis rail) to adjacent wheel rim lip (for example). This would provide a horizontal linear measurement difference (if any) of the axle/diff housing, actual position, from left to right relative to vehicle center..

OK, thats a great description, will do that and see how much I am off. I already suspect the alignment is wrong because I had scratch/rub marks on the tailshaft from the recently upgraded belly tank. Simply have not got to the next thing on the list, which looks like this.

[Mc4by]

Hello and welcome to the forum

[PeeBee]

Woke up to this, 100mm hole thru the plaster, investigations revealed an old wasp nest had carved away the plaster and all that was left was the paint thickness. Right in the middle of a huge expanse of plaster sheeting. We are starting to prep the house for sale, and the more you look the more you find. Its amazing what you either elect to live with or simply don't see because it happens over time. The other end of this monster sheet has also torn away from the nails into the rafters and drooped down about 6" over a 3m length. Currently trying to engineer a way out of that one!

If its not the car, its the house.


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[the evil twin]

... disconnecting the Battery for 30 minutes prob won't work on that fault PeeBee?

[PeeBee]

... disconnecting the Battery for 30 minutes prob won't work on that fault PeeBee?

Maybe not, but I am willing to try!

[garett]

the wife rang me to go outside to pour water on her windscreen to remove the ice....

[PeeBee]

the wife rang me to go outside to pour water on her windscreen to remove the ice....

Ah yes Isn't technology great!

[garett]

Ah yes Isn't technology great!

and people wonder why i go and camp where there is no phone signal on purpose.

[Bidja]

-5 DegC here last night and the 25 &50mm taps on the tank are frozen. Want to transfer water but now have to wait till the thaw!!!! love it

Glad I carted some water inside last night (10l)./ hahaha

[GQtdauto]

-5 DegC here last night and the 25 &50mm taps on the tank are frozen. Want to transfer water but now have to wait till the thaw!!!! love it

Glad I carted some water inside last night (10l)./ hahaha

Nearly 30 here in Katherine mate , just waiting on two new tyres seems hells gate was well named

[Bidja]

Nearly 30 here in Katherine mate , just waiting on two new tyres seems hells gate was well named

G'day mate, hope enjoyment is yours out that way. Hope the tyres do not have to come from a far?

30 eh, saw on our RFS site earlier, it was actually -7.4 here this morn, don't know what "hells gate" first hand would be like but it was pretty pearly here on the ground till mid morn. Checks seize laughing -:)

[GQtdauto]

After restocking here its off to elquestro then to Alice via the tanami track ,weather has been great since we left the cape.

[PeeBee]

Big toe on left foot has been throbbing for the last 3 months on and off, thought I had Gout, so went to Doctor, not gout, you have a broken toe that has not healed correctly so the bone is now agitating the nerves ever time it moves - great! I did it on last years snow trip by dropping a log on my toe. Nail just about grown out, but injury will remain for life, no fix. I am cursed it seems.

[the evil twin]

... dangerous stuff that snow.

Been in Snow twice in my life, got blistering head aches, short term memory loss and had all my money disappear both times... never been back

[DX grunt]

... dangerous stuff that snow.

Been in Snow twice in my life, got blistering head aches, short term memory loss and had all my money disappear both times... never been back

I moved from the high country in Victoria to WA in 1980 and followed my dreams - and warmer temps. PML.

[GQtdauto]

31 in Katherine today very nice

[Bidja]

Having to go back into Super Cheap (80ks rnd trip) to get Plastic Primer Filler. Bought etch, base coat & clear last night to color match JT scoop. Of course asked, and was told no need for plastic primer and yes I do. doods.

Wanted to start - grrrrrr. Just have to do more adjustment to my actuator on the way in - getting improvements...Heeeeee

[Rossco]

Feel your plain PeeBee had to go cushion cover shopping tonight. . . Wow didn't realise its so complex . . .

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[Bidja]

And now putting base coat on and and couple of insect did a landing, should have left them, but no I had to try and get em off and stuffed the paint. Now to dry and rub back in tomorrow. Stuff

[PeeBee]

Feel your plain PeeBee had to go cushion cover shopping tonight. . . Wow didn't realise its so complex . . .

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Ah yes Rossco my friend, there is so much to learn and especially in the art of the unknown regarding the process of selecting the right cushion for that special place in your home. It is a journey of constant joyous discovery, and options, yes, so many options, size, colour, tone, texture, smell, weight, shape, comfort to name a few of the tangible criteria. Enjoy the process, in fact embrace it, as once it starts, it never ends. I believe a container load of cushions from our place recently were transferred to the local salvo's, so I am hanging out to find what new current 'on trend' focus we will be following - so very EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rossco]

I thought I was doing well. . . Actively participating in the selection process including the critical "matching" of differing yet complementing cushions taking into account colour, texture and pattern among other things. . . Thought I did well and my input well received as we made the long walk to the exit of IKEA and was feeling quite proud and overall good about the situation. However this was short lived and doubt set in . . "Hmm don't think these go together" . . and "they're not earthy enough". Bugger back on the long venture back in, this time deciding to stay out out the whole process only to offer support. . . Oh well lesson learnt . . .

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[Rossco]

Yep don't know what I was thinking Plassy, wise advice mate [emoji6] . . .

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[mudski]

NBNco. What a bunch of fcuking monkeys!
I was promised to be connected via HFC in January, then in June, now they say "October - December 2018" and have added "- Subject to change". So in a nutshell, they really don't know. Everyone else in my street has it. These morons could not organise a root in a brothel! So now I have to put up with a super slow ADSL that drops out every 5 minutes.

Now can I start on the monkeys I works with? These plebs make me wild!

[the evil twin]

Health funds... doubly so any of them that use overseas call centres... a pox on all their houses

[Avo]

Tried to get angry.....but them happy thoughts...dag nammit

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[MB]

GOLD :-) 3 Months, 6 Months, 12 Months, Years. Plan is a plan, best we all make short term sacrifices to take step two and the wheels be set in motion:-)


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[mudnut]

Two f'n idiots on motorcycles, treating our road like a Grand Prix track, second time this week. If I hadn't taken the time to check out the tyres and lights on the car before my daughter left, she would've been pulling out onto the road as the d'heads roared past. F'k I hope they get caught before they kill someone!

[Bidja]

More of an inconvenience than anything. Water expansion on freezing pic (25mm brass ball valve body housing split open). minus 8 Deg C on the veranda last night.

It happens, all irrigation control valves drained and open for this time of the year. This is domestic supply, have to now scratch up one from in the shed. Seen 50mm brass ball valves go (such high force).

[TPC]

This made me angry, gutless assholes like this should have their oxygen breathing privileges taken away.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/29/14/25/violent-assualt-leaves-melbourne-man-injured-on-nepean-highway

[Bob]

This made me angry, gutless assholes like this should have their oxygen breathing privileges taken away.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/29/14/25/violent-assualt-leaves-melbourne-man-injured-on-nepean-highway

I agree 100 %

The trouble is some Judge will give them a tap on the wrist and sentence them to 10 Hours Community Service.

[Bob]

This made me angry, gutless assholes like this should have their oxygen breathing privileges taken away.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/29/14/25/violent-assualt-leaves-melbourne-man-injured-on-nepean-highway

Charged but out on Bail What a bloody Joke

[Maxhead]

This made me angry, gutless assholes like this should have their oxygen breathing privileges taken away.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/29/14/25/violent-assualt-leaves-melbourne-man-injured-on-nepean-highway

This pic has been doing the rounds on social media
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/07/203.jpg


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[bazzaboy]

Absolute gutless bastards. I hope they get 5 years, as they need to be made an example of.

[AB]

Didn't Daniel Andrews bring out an instant gaol term for coward punches not long ago?


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[PeeBee]

Didn't Daniel Andrews bring out an instant gaol term for coward punches not long ago?


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Don't worry, there will be some 'extenuating circumstances' that come out about a badger sneering at him when he was 5 years old, and he has been angry ever since, so he just needs some understanding, maybe do 5 hrs in a Bunnings Sausage sizzle one saturday for the local boy scouts, then all will be forgotten and he will save the taxpayer the 200k/yr to house him in a facility he does not deserve to be in. Mind you, the poor guy who lost his teeth and potentially is mentally scarred, get nothing. Yep, good old Dan and his bullet proof solutions will come out winners.

[jcpatrol]

Shocking behavior. I've seen guys like this walking out of the criminal court with a slap on the wrist in Australia. The victim will get harassed and traumatized through the welfare and health system had he chosen to pursue treatment, justice or compensation. Defense lawyers exploit the ""under the influence of drugs"" excuse cleverly.
Mandatory sentencing is the way to go in order to deter these kind of behavior. DUI defendants use the same excuse. "Sorry I hit and killed you. I just had too much to drink".
Campaign for mandatory sentencing for above kind of behavior. You will be noticing an immediate & magical drop of the number of such transgressions.

[jcpatrol]

This pic has been doing the rounds on social media


It looks like he dug a hole for his business as well.
https://www.yellowpages.com.au/vic/langwarrin/wellscrete-14822524-listing.html

[Maxhead]

It looks like he dug a hole for his business as well.
https://www.yellowpages.com.au/vic/langwarrin/wellscrete-14822524-listing.html

Haha, nice reviews... what dheads


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[jay see]

Charged but out on Bail What a bloody JokeI heard that there was nowhere to put him because of locking them up straight away.

Easy solution.

Build more FFS.

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[jcpatrol]

Didn't Daniel Andrews bring out an instant gaol term for coward punches not long ago?


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It may be necessary to legislate and implement such laws federally. As long as loopholes available in the law to ask for suspended jail terms the magistrates may be powerless to handover fixed jail terms. I may be wrong, but he was able to get bail without much hardship by the sound of it, regardless of overwhelming evidence of the surveillance video recording. It is hard to know what happened in the court room, but defense lawyers usually are able to ask for bail and suspended jail terms when there are provisions available in the law. As far as I know, it is still quite possible to avoid any real jail terms in Australia with such transgressions. Being under the influence of a drug or alcohol is still an acceptable defense there. We need to see these things from victim's perspective. Victim get even more traumatized through the system when he or she tries to get medical assistance or compensation. Therefore, it is no joy ride for the victim. The criminal may have had bad childhood, trauma, bad parents et cetera, but the cycle must be broken by not allowing such damaged people to pass their bad life, bad upbringing to people that have nothing to do with their anger. Mandatory sentencing without wasting court's time is the best approach in my understanding. If the law is there to support the prosecutors, the need for bail applications may not be necessary with clear evidence cases like the above.

[Ben-e-boy]

Don't worry, there will be some 'extenuating circumstances' that come out about a badger sneering at him when he was 5 years old, and he has been angry ever since, so he just needs some understanding, maybe do 5 hrs in a Bunnings Sausage sizzle one saturday for the local boy scouts, then all will be forgotten and he will save the taxpayer the 200k/yr to house him in a facility he does not deserve to be in. Mind you, the poor guy who lost his teeth and potentially is mentally scarred, get nothing. Yep, good old Dan and his bullet proof solutions will come out winners.

It just says that you can commit a crime or wrong doing provided you've got something wrong with you.
Im sorry I pissed in your coffee, I've got asthma

[Plasnart]

It just says that you can commit a crime or wrong doing provided you've got something wrong with you.
Im sorry I pissed in your coffee, I've got asthma

And that's about as ridiculous as it is in reality. Need laws to say drugs and alcohol can't be used as excuses for committing crime. And I'd bet my house there are more people who had rough upbringings who are now model citizens than those who use it as an excuse for their crimes. Your past shouldnt be an excuse for bashing people last weekend.

[jcpatrol]

And that's about as ridiculous as it is in reality. Need laws to say drugs and alcohol can't be used as excuses for committing crime. And I'd bet my house there are more people who had rough upbringings who are now model citizens than those who use it as an excuse for their crimes. Your past shouldnt be an excuse for bashing people last weekend.

The issue is that your country does have laws protecting such transgressors. You can get drunk, then hit and kill somebody and getaway with it with a slap on the wrist. The maximum that I have seen so far is a two year jail term with parole or possibility of parole. Since the intention and motivation to kill isn't there, it is hard to prosecute even for manslaughter under Australian law if I am correct, so the verdict is usually a mild one. I won't be surprised if the transgressor won't get a day behind bars in the above incident. However, the victim will be bestowed with a real jail term by the health and welfare system.

[GQtdauto]

Leaving the kimberly for central oz . Its friggin freezing here.

[garett]

a learner driver in a learner car made an illegal turn in front of me....
your a paid driving instructor get it right...

[rowanchild]

climbing under the car and not being able to find the fuel injection pump, identification number and then bumping my head getting out. bloody thing

[Hodge]

The fun police netting 4x4's, on what appeared, all main surrounding roads leading to the 4x4 show car parks... Drove past at least 3 canaried vehicles parked at servo by the time i drove out just before.

[MB]

How was the show Hodge mate? Worth going into tomorrow, kid friendly also maybe?


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[Hodge]

It was very good Marko. Lots to see for everyone!
Lot of new products and ideas as always.
They have a "Base camp" section in the middle with rides for kids etc ...

I suggest to attack it early bird style mate and park off Langs Rd before that parking lot gets full . Otherwise you'll end up on the racecourse and have to shuttle it to the event.
Also there is some shitty weather predicted for the weekend if you haven't seen so rug up !!
How was the show Hodge mate? Worth going into tomorrow, kid friendly also maybe?


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[10G]

The fun police netting 4x4's, on what appeared, all main surrounding roads leading to the 4x4 show car parks... Drove past at least 3 canaried vehicles parked at servo by the time i drove out just before.

Reminds me of the old days going out to the illegal drags around Dandenong and around, park a few streets back and walk up so when the wallopers come they won't see ya car.

[Hodge]

Reminds me of the old days going out to the illegal drags around Dandenong and around, park a few streets back and walk up so when the wallopers come they won't see ya car.They certanly know where to catch fish mate.

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[MB]

Cheers Hodgey, thanks for the parking lot tips too!
Best we take the family truckster and ensure the winch isolation is OFF and othee goodies left at home too ;-)


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[PeeBee]

Cheers Hodgey, thanks for the parking lot tips too!
Best we take the family truckster and ensure the winch isolation is OFF and othee goodies left at home too ;-)


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Smart move Mark, open slather for the thieves with all these trucks and their jewellery.

[Hodge]

Cheers Hodgey, thanks for the parking lot tips too!
Best we take the family truckster and ensure the winch isolation is OFF and othee goodies left at home too ;-)


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Definitely a wise move Mark! I'm glad you mentioned that.
The car park alone is a show in itself, for the shady variety of souls out there...
2011 show, my Navara got ransacked. UHF aerial, arb spotties got taken and for whatever pleasure they got out of it... they also punctured my headlights.

[MB]

Rsole act that Hodgey mate, what priicks!!
Unsure why excessive force is so legally frowned upon if you were to catch the buggers in the act!
Used to skin rabbits by hooking their little necks in the old tiny winch hook, that should suffice!


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[PeeBee]

Rsole act that Hodgey mate, what priicks!!
Unsure why excessive force is so legally frowned upon if you were to catch the buggers in the act!
Used to skin rabbits by hooking their little necks in the old tiny winch hook, that should suffice!


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Come on MB, its not their fault. They see the results of someone else's effort and believe they deserve a bit too, so, I think you should pre-loosen the bolts and leave the spanner kit in a nice carry bag so these treasures of humanity can do their shopping without any effort involved. If you are going to blame anyone, look at the badger that snarled at him when he was 5 years old - thats the reason there is so much crime - angry badgers.

[MB]

Does Anyone Deserve Anything Mate?


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[MB]

Here’s a copy & paste for us Umans!
“The question that helps us all most is what do we need, not what do we deserve”


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[PeeBee]

Heavy man, just plain heavy

You reap what you sow, so by default you get what you deserve, as against what you might need - hows that twisted around!

[MB]

Is this about cushions again?



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[PeeBee]

Is this about cushions again?



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Getting smashed about cushions from one side of this country to the other for some reason..... but you guys bring a smile to my face.

[MB]

Too easy old mate, your problem google solved! Load the bed up with ebay purchase #889 emoji pillows to share together her love of cushions [emoji41]
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[Sir Roofy]

Not so much angry more like pissed off the timing is out on the zd30
Didn't know you had to lock the ring gear before taking the pump out
ah well lesson learnt start again Monday will just pull a part the front of
the motor to get to timing gears to line up

any one have an idea on how to undo the crankshaft nut .......easily

[Rossco]

Bugger Roofy sux mate. Not sure on the front crank nut it's a big bugger, looong breaker bar or bloody good impact? Why does the crank nut have to come off?

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[Bidja]

Not so much angry more like pissed off the timing is out on the zd30
Didn't know you had to lock the ring gear before taking the pump out
ah well lesson learnt start again Monday will just pull a part the front of
the motor to get to timing gears to line up

any one have an idea on how to undo the crankshaft nut .......easily

If eng out, lock up flywheel and you need to give the nut a sudden knock force with hammer or lump of wood using a ring spanner or socket & bar what ever U are using. A sudden impact force has far greater effect than just applying pressure/torque. If engine is in veh & transmission connected, locate breaker bar against something solid and some give the starter a flick. Or try just putting in 1st gear, get someone to put foot on brake/hand brake(all) and give the ring or socket/bar a sudden knock like when locking the flywheel. Rather use a socket and breaker bar.

[AB]

Lachy destroyed iPad screen number 5!


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[AB]

Genuine question as I'm slowly losing my shit doing this on my own folks. Crazy autistic child proof demon child iPad covers?

Genuine frigging question as I'm at a loss now!


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