Front locker

[Winnie]

Haha sounds like George is keen for a drive!

[Ben-e-boy]

Interesting..... Which direction from you mate west or south?

its south of me. I am at work at the moment its on the northern side of the gold coast.

[04OFF]

In all honesty Benny, i really think we need two vehicles with pretty much the same dimensions, suspension, weight and tyres to give us a fair result ?


And as the others mentioned before with regard to driving on sand, if your spinning wheels and digging holes, your doing it wrong ,regardless of your locked/unlocked diffs, reminds me of those that say mud tyres are no good on sand because they dig in too much, well same goes, dont spin the wheels and mud tyres can still work great on sand.

[Ben-e-boy]

In all honesty Benny, i really think we need two vehicles with pretty much the same dimensions, suspension, weight and tyres to give us a fair result .

Yes, but really....locked rear wheel drive v front locked 4wd. There is no comparison

[04OFF]

Yes, but really....locked rear wheel drive v front locked 4wd. There is no comparison

I agree , i just feel if its to be proved or disproved, the vehicles have to be very equal in all other aspects (or close enough)

e.g, i doubt a standard GU wagon, even with "twin" lockers, would go some places ive seen your ute go Benny ?

[nissannewby]

I agree , i just feel if its to be proved or disproved, the vehicles have to be very equal in all other aspects (or close enough)

e.g, i doubt a standard GU wagon, even with "twin" lockers, would go some places ive seen your ute go Benny ?

I have been many places without lockers just the rear LSD a little hard work at times and has led to breakages but doable. Lockers do make life easier in some situations actually a lot but I do agree with the sand comments which kinda of carry over to other ground conditions, technique is where it's at.

[gaddy]

As the original post was about sand , and just my 2 cents , I've never seen the need for a locker , as never lifted a wheel yet , before buying the patrol I had a 2.7 lux towing a jayco Swan , the lux was on skinny steel rims and the camper is on 14 inch x 175 , 18 psi in all tires never had a problem . And that includes indian head on a hot summers day , and with the patrol definitely no hassle or worry in the sand . Drive to conditions momentum is the key not speed
Just my 2 cents worth I've seen rigs with all the bells and whistles down to the belly only to see a soft roader drive right past

Steve

[04OFF]

As the original post was about sand , and just my 2 cents , I've never seen the need for a locker , as never lifted a wheel yet , before buying the patrol I had a 2.7 lux towing a jayco Swan , the lux was on skinny steel rims and the camper is on 14 inch x 175 , 18 psi in all tires never had a problem . And that includes indian head on a hot summers day , and with the patrol definitely no hassle or worry in the sand . Drive to conditions momentum is the key not speed
Just my 2 cents worth I've seen rigs with all the bells and whistles down to the belly only to see a soft roader drive right past

Steve

I agree Steve, ive personally driven thousands of Ks, spread out on all my local sand islands (Fraser/Moreton/straddie etc) , all without any sort of diff lock, you definitely don't "need" a locker for sand driving, and i would not advise someone to rush out and buy one if sand driving is all they do.

In fact, i was worried about getting a Lokka , due to the amount of sand driving i do, and the negative reports id read and heard about using a front locker in the sand, but to my surprize, i found the auto Lokka could work in your favour in sand.



As you suggest, driver skill is worth more than anything, all the Rangers, Police, Ambulance all seem to get around the beach on very skinny tyres, and ive only ever seen a Ambo get bogged (racing to a casualty) even then, not under any urgency, i was able to just reverse it out, and drove through what they got stuck in on my first go.


Ive also seen a guy in a AWD Territory on bribie island, he made the second lagoon crossing look easier than anyone else the whole day !