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    Quote Originally Posted by 04OFF View Post
    The short answer is no...... however, it depends where you go and what you do, generally front lockers will reduce your turning ability in most situations (including sand), a limited improvement may be noticeable in very soft sand when travelling "straight" ahead.

    The exception to this is if you fit a auto lokka, if you have this type of lokka in the front, with a small change in your driving style, ive found it can actually be a benifit in most sand driving situations ive come across.

    ONLY When locked.

    .An unlocked air locker will have ZERO impact on the turning circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush Ranger View Post
    Horses for courses. All depends on how you look at it. I`d rather push a weight with a rear locker and no front locker, than bust a CV with a front locker and while having a LSD whilst pulling a weight. If I had both diffs with lockers, Id only have the front one on if I know I really need it, driving straight and or minimal steering to limit the possibility of the CVs busting. But you lot knew that right? Having a busted CV and rear LSD isn`t going to get you far now is it? Just my thoughts and looking at it in a way that one option could cost you more money in repairs, than in another way of doing the job.
    04OFF - The reason why the Ti has a rear locker is because it`s the next model up and why would you pay for an LSD, when a locker is a better option?

    We are only talking about "one" locker (front OR rear), we are not talking about twin locker option, i think everyone will agree 2 lockers are the best set up.

    I agree with what you say about a front and rear locker with regard to Cvs mate, and nobody here is suggesting for a moment a LSD is better than a locker off road.


    The reference to a Ti is just a very common example of a car that has a rear Locker, and how many people would have seen other cars with a rear LSD "and" a front locker, go further than a car that has a rear locker "only".




    The bottom line to what im saying is, if you can only have "one" locker, having a LSD on the other end/axel of the vehicle, is going to be better than a open centre, and as Patrols did not have a LSD "front" option, the best option is a LSD rear, locker front , NOT a locked rear, open centre front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davo94 View Post
    ONLY When locked.

    .An unlocked air locker will have ZERO impact on the turning circle.
    OK, fair enough, i didn't actually say "when locked" !

    But really mate, i think you are the "only" person that would have read that ,and NOT realised i was talking about when the locker "is" engaged !
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    Well this is not speaking from personal experience but is my opinion, one of my best mates who has been a Patrol nut for two decades has convinced me to go rear locker first for the very reasons Bushranger cites.
    He swears that his rig with rear locker only activated will go more places than those with LSD rear and locked front (in fact he said he would go further with the rear locked and in 2wd). I trust him on this as he knows his chit. The other upside is in activating a rear locker when descending super steep hills acts as a boat anchor out back to help slow progress down just that bit extra.
    I can honestly say I've shifted my opinion of front vs rear locker (only) over the last few months and will be putting one in the rear of mine before the front.


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    Sorry. I dont believe for a second that he will go further in locked 2wd than a front locked 4wd.

    A bit of left foot brake works wonders with the LSD still not a good as a positive locker but it does help.
    I only have a front locker and have only done 1 CV and that was because I was in a position where I had to revearse out of a large ditch full lock, when a CV is at its weakest, with the enitre weight of the ute on the front wheels and snapped it and the axle like a twig lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04OFF View Post
    OK, fair enough, i didn't actually say "when locked" !

    But really mate, i think you are the "only" person that would have read that ,and NOT realised i was talking about when the locker "is" engaged !
    Just answering the original post and insureing that the original poster gets clean and clear info before spending hard earned cash.. we all know the feeling of parting with $$$ for something we arent happy with.

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    Yep I'm with Benny, no way could a rear locked 2wd go further than an unlocked 4wd. And i am sure a front locked, rear LSD would go further than rear Locker only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewboyaus View Post
    Well this is not speaking from personal experience but is my opinion, one of my best mates who has been a Patrol nut for two decades has convinced me to go rear locker first for the very reasons Bushranger cites.
    He swears that his rig with rear locker only activated will go more places than those with LSD rear and locked front (in fact he said he would go further with the rear locked and in 2wd). I trust him on this as he knows his chit. The other upside is in activating a rear locker when descending super steep hills acts as a boat anchor out back to help slow progress down just that bit extra.
    I can honestly say I've shifted my opinion of front vs rear locker (only) over the last few months and will be putting one in the rear of mine before the front.


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    A rear locker under full braking will make the truck slide more so that if you were using a front locker and lsd rear. The weight on a decent is all over the front wheels hence the 75 front brake 25 rear brake proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    Sorry. I dont believe for a second that he will go further in locked 2wd than a front locked 4wd.

    A bit of left foot brake works wonders with the LSD still not a good as a positive locker but it does help.
    I only have a front locker and have only done 1 CV and that was because I was in a position where I had to revearse out of a large ditch full lock, when a CV is at its weakest, with the enitre weight of the ute on the front wheels and snapped it and the axle like a twig lol
    Good on you Benny!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewboyaus View Post
    Well this is not speaking from personal experience but is my opinion, one of my best mates who has been a Patrol nut for two decades has convinced me to go rear locker first for the very reasons Bushranger cites.
    He swears that his rig with rear locker only activated will go more places than those with LSD rear and locked front (in fact he said he would go further with the rear locked and in 2wd). I trust him on this as he knows his chit. The other upside is in activating a rear locker when descending super steep hills acts as a boat anchor out back to help slow progress down just that bit extra.
    I can honestly say I've shifted my opinion of front vs rear locker (only) over the last few months and will be putting one in the rear of mine before the front.


    Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....
    Just sayin'


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