OUR VIDEOS GALLERY MEMBER SPONSORSHIP VENDOR SPONSORSHIP

User Tag List

Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 72

Thread: Alternator Warning Lamp Circuit Question

  1. #41
    Patrol God mudnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    SW Vic.
    Posts
    8,086
    Thanks
    10,997
    Thanked 5,622 Times in 3,293 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Excellent write-up.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mudnut For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016), Yendor (12th June 2016)

  3. #42
    I am he, fear me the evil twin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    W.A. (wandering aust)
    Posts
    6,208
    Thanks
    904
    Thanked 6,642 Times in 3,288 Posts
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Haven't you heard the phrase "hold my beer and watch this" nothing bad has ever followed
    ROFLMAO

    Many people miss that phrase... it gets drowned out by shouts of "Quick, get a Camera"
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to the evil twin For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016), Yendor (12th June 2016)

  5. #43
    Patrol God mudnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    SW Vic.
    Posts
    8,086
    Thanks
    10,997
    Thanked 5,622 Times in 3,293 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    This is a simplified graph of the three phase output of the alternator before both the main rectifying diodes and the diode trio. The windings and the rotor poles poles are positioned so that there is 120 degrees between each phase.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to mudnut For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016)

  7. #44
    Patrol God mudnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    SW Vic.
    Posts
    8,086
    Thanks
    10,997
    Thanked 5,622 Times in 3,293 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    This is a simplifed graph of the output from the diode trio. There is no return path for the negative half of the wave. This is used as the rotor poles don't need a real high current and is cheap to manufacture.

    The slip rings allow a DC current to flow through the rotor and produce constant north and south poles. As the rotor turns its north and south poles cut each winding at different intervals thus producing the alternating output. AC.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by mudnut; 12th June 2016 at 03:03 PM.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to mudnut For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016)

  9. #45
    Patrol God mudnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    SW Vic.
    Posts
    8,086
    Thanks
    10,997
    Thanked 5,622 Times in 3,293 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    This is a simplified graph of the output of the alternator after the main rectifier. Note that the only path for the negative half of the waves is via the diodes so it becomes a positive voltage. The voltage you will actually see on an oscilloscope is a positive DC voltage with twice as many peaks or humps as the half wave rectifier. This configuration ensures there is maximum current output from each winding.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by mudnut; 12th June 2016 at 03:04 PM.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to mudnut For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016)

  11. #46
    Legendary dom14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Somewhere inside Victoria, Australia :)
    Posts
    3,699
    Thanks
    2,124
    Thanked 576 Times in 462 Posts
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Nah my head hurts when I do this lol
    All for a good cause. I just stopped asking questions.......... for now.

    Thanx for the two diagrams mate. That alone explains everything perfectly.

    Now, I can work on my "grand design" of a redundancy for the alternator warning lamp, so when or if the warning lamp cooks itself,
    field coil would still get the tiny 1.5v to get the alternator going.

    Cheers
    Dom
    RB30, some 2-3 inch lift auxiliary LPG tanks
    Few more mods on the way
    http://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger
    https://www.panthera.org/
    Cheetah Outreach

  12. #47
    Patrol God mudnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    SW Vic.
    Posts
    8,086
    Thanks
    10,997
    Thanked 5,622 Times in 3,293 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    You could always install an LED or a lower wattage globe and a ceramic resister of the right resistance and wattage in parallel. That way if the LED or lamp blows blows you will still have probably at least .75 volts available to kick start the system. Maybe just saying. It would take a while to get the combination of components right.
    My advice is: not to follow my advice.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to mudnut For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016)

  14. #48
    Legendary dom14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Somewhere inside Victoria, Australia :)
    Posts
    3,699
    Thanks
    2,124
    Thanked 576 Times in 462 Posts
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mudnut View Post
    This is a simplified graph of the output of the alternator after the main rectifier. Note that the only path for the negative half of the waves is via the diodes so it becomes a positive voltage. The voltage you will actually see on an oscilloscope is a positive DC voltage with twice as many peaks or humps as the half wave rectifier. This configuration ensures there is maximum current output from each winding.
    Yeah, it also kinda shows that the pulsed DC output that is produced by the bridge rectifier arrangement of three phase is smoother than the single phase bridge rectification.
    RB30, some 2-3 inch lift auxiliary LPG tanks
    Few more mods on the way
    http://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger
    https://www.panthera.org/
    Cheetah Outreach

  15. #49
    Legendary dom14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Somewhere inside Victoria, Australia :)
    Posts
    3,699
    Thanks
    2,124
    Thanked 576 Times in 462 Posts
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mudnut View Post
    You could always install an LED or a lower wattage globe and a ceramic resister of the right resistance and wattage in parallel. That way if the LED or lamp blows blows you will still have probably at least .75 volts available to kick start the system. Maybe just saying. It would take a while to get the combination of components right.
    Yeah, I reckon I can measure the resistance of the warning lamp and do some calculations with the ohms law to approximate the right resistance of the parallel resistor & the LED/globe wattage.

    Cheers
    RB30, some 2-3 inch lift auxiliary LPG tanks
    Few more mods on the way
    http://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger
    https://www.panthera.org/
    Cheetah Outreach

  16. #50
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Greenbank QLD
    Posts
    3,387
    Thanks
    561
    Thanked 1,547 Times in 1,116 Posts
    Mentioned
    25 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dom14 View Post
    Yeah, I reckon I can measure the resistance of the warning lamp and do some calculations with the ohms law to approximate the right resistance of the parallel resistor & the LED/globe wattage.

    Cheers
    Or you could just replace the bulb if it ever blows....

  17. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Yendor For This Useful Post:

    dom14 (12th June 2016), mudnut (12th June 2016)

Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •