Recovery - The Fundamentals

[threedogs]

I don't want to sound like a know all, but both their vehicles, especially the 79 are very top heavy. Heavily loaded cargo, roof rack and tiny on the roof as well. Not surprising it took very little to tip that thing over. I know those guys like to take a lot of toys with them, just something to think about that's all, especially if you want to push the limits.

I suppose they push the envelope all for great footage,
I'll try to find out what the breakage rate was,
I suspect that LUX didnt fair well on some of the terrain

[P4trol]

They used some of the footage, with different narrative, for the debut of the series. This clip shows the rest of the footage.

Apart from a few jumps by the lead characters + cameraman over a live snatched strap, they're quite welcome to drown their sponsored vehicles.

[the evil twin]

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Apart from a few jumps by the lead characters + cameraman over a live snatched strap, ...

Thats disgraceful.

All snatch straps should be humanely euthanised by putting them in the freezer for an hour or two prior to use.
Taunting them by jumping around just causes undue stress

Or is that Mud Crabs... dunno been a while since I had one...

[P4trol]

Autocorrect... Makes me sound like I'm from a call centre.

[faw33]

Great work on here guys. very helpful

[Throbbinhood]

Hey all, few quick questions after reading.

So, say I'm bogged deep, and pulling up hill, doing a double line pull. Say, just as a number, with the double line pull, weight on the winch is 5t. Does that mean weight on the pulley is 10t, and as such, the weight on the shackle holding the pulley is also 10t? I only ask, because I haven't seen too many 10t shackles around. Would using two shackles help spread the load, or is it just making it a more lethal projectile?

Also, if I need to winch a car behind me up a hill, but there is no room to turn around, any drawbacks to hooking the winch to a pulley on an anchor say, to my front left, and from that pulley back to their car - provided I can get the rope to their car without hitting mine or anything in the process?

[the evil twin]

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So, say I'm bogged deep, and pulling up hill, doing a double line pull. Say, just as a number, with the double line pull, weight on the winch is 5t. Does that mean weight on the pulley is 10t, and as such, the weight on the shackle holding the pulley is also 10t? I only ask, because I haven't seen too many 10t shackles around.

1. Don't try and pull a deeply mired vehicle (uphill, downhill or level) unless you have done everything you can to reduce the effect of the Bog and/or stiction IE some shovel work.
2. If you have 5 ton on the winch on a double line pull then you must have a Unimog on the other end
3. You don't need a 10 ton shackle for recovery work. Shackles are rated to Lifting Standards and depending on grade, a 10 ton shackle will be good for 40 to 70 tons, weigh about 10 KG and be the size of a large dinner plate.

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Also, if I need to winch a car behind me up a hill, but there is no room to turn around, any drawbacks to hooking the winch to a pulley on an anchor say, to my front left, and from that pulley back to their car - provided I can get the rope to their car without hitting mine or anything in the process?

You will find that a very difficult evolution in a practical world IE if there isn't room to turn then there usually isn't room or ideally placed anchor points to rig the redirects required

In a theoretical world you can do it as it is no different to a redircet but in practice don't forget you will need to allow for a friction loss (or load depending) of 10% for each snatch block you use

[threedogs]

Thats disgraceful.

All snatch straps should be humanely euthanised by putting them in the freezer for an hour or two prior to use.
Taunting them by jumping around just causes undue stress

Or is that Mud Crabs... dunno been a while since I had one...

you saying its a long time since you had crabs/crab lol

[Throbbinhood]

You will find that a very difficult evolution in a practical world IE if there isn't room to turn then there usually isn't room or ideally placed anchor points to rig the redirects required

Sorry, I didn't quite phrase my question that well. It's less of a 'not being room to turn', and more, say im going up a hill, and turning is impractical because of angles. I could go up, turn around, and come back down, but that would mean having to reverse back up the hill, which would present it's own set of dangers, and may not be practical. But if it effectively works as a redirect then it should be sweet

[threedogs]

you halve the effort you are still pulling what was it 5ton
twice as slow