Wot to do

[happygu]

I have owned 2 Di's and also 2 CRD's, and my vote is with the CRD's ...... even though I have had no trouble with any of them

Here is my run down for you

01 lacked a little low down grunt off the mark when taking off with a load .... Fixed with a chip

03 More grunt off the mark, and went like a rocket with the chip

Fuel economy was the same with both Di's.

07 CRD Better grunt off the mark again, but slower than the 03 rocket. Never bothered with a chip, as it seemed adequate.

11 CRD Same as 07, but a little less grunty off the line.

Fuel economy same for both CRD's and use 0.1 - 0.2 litres more per hundred than the Di's

[apalsson]

+1

I have had 3 GUs, a 2001 manual, 2005 auto and 2009 manual

The 2001 was a bit "sluggish", especially taking off. We towed an Ultimate Offroad Camper a lot behind it and even the sub 1,000 weight was a bit of a load on it. This got fixed with a DTronic chip
The 2005 came about as a Novated Lease car through my work. For some reason, I never liked that car. At the time, we had a 23.5 foot caravan and towing it was a non-stop struggle. I think this car was probably the most sluggish of all of them
When I bought the 2009 a few months ago, I specifically set out to find a stock, low mileage manual car. This one had some 46,000km on it and was completely stock.

The main difference between it and the 2001 is much better power on takeoff but I often wish I had a bit more grunt at higher RPM. We tow a 1500Kg offroad van with this one and it's often a bit slow
Another difference is definitely in the consumption. When towing the Ultimate on difficult outback tracks, the 2001 used some 14 - 14.5L/100Km. When I tow the new van (even on highways), I hardly get much better than 18L/100Kms

Even though I loved my old 2001 and it never let me down in any way, I still feel the 2009 is in many ways a better car. Back with my old one, the grenading was becoming a known issue so I always had it in the back of my mind and therefore bought extended warranty from Nissan that I kept active till I sold the car. I don't have the same concerns over the engine in the new one. There seems to be plenty anecdotal evidence out there that the latest CRD engines have less issues than the old 2001
When/If budget allows, I might consider a chip for this one to try to address the consumption issue a bit

[Crate]

Great to have the firsthand feedback, thanks for taking the time to write it up guys.

[threedogs]

@ Crate if $30k is your budget your better off looking for a 2006 4.2td

[Crate]

Yeah 3D that would be nice, but $30k will be the limit inc mods and a 06 TD42 would be beyond that currently (unless its a complete steal). But like I said its a year or more away so that could change :-)

[Cracker]

Thanks fellas for making my desicion even harder hahaha.

[mudski]

@ Crate if $30k is your budget your better off looking for a 2006 4.2td

Yer good luck with that. Add another 10k and you'll get one.

[mudski]

+1

I have had 3 GUs, a 2001 manual, 2005 auto and 2009 manual

The 2001 was a bit "sluggish", especially taking off. We towed an Ultimate Offroad Camper a lot behind it and even the sub 1,000 weight was a bit of a load on it. This got fixed with a DTronic chip
The 2005 came about as a Novated Lease car through my work. For some reason, I never liked that car. At the time, we had a 23.5 foot caravan and towing it was a non-stop struggle. I think this car was probably the most sluggish of all of them
When I bought the 2009 a few months ago, I specifically set out to find a stock, low mileage manual car. This one had some 46,000km on it and was completely stock.

The main difference between it and the 2001 is much better power on takeoff but I often wish I had a bit more grunt at higher RPM. We tow a 1500Kg offroad van with this one and it's often a bit slow
Another difference is definitely in the consumption. When towing the Ultimate on difficult outback tracks, the 2001 used some 14 - 14.5L/100Km. When I tow the new van (even on highways), I hardly get much better than 18L/100Kms

Even though I loved my old 2001 and it never let me down in any way, I still feel the 2009 is in many ways a better car. Back with my old one, the grenading was becoming a known issue so I always had it in the back of my mind and therefore bought extended warranty from Nissan that I kept active till I sold the car. I don't have the same concerns over the engine in the new one. There seems to be plenty anecdotal evidence out there that the latest CRD engines have less issues than the old 2001
When/If budget allows, I might consider a chip for this one to try to address the consumption issue a bit

You can't expect a lot out of a 3L diesel... Especially when towing. I've done just about every mod possible to squeeze the living shite out of my Di and its still a slug. Then I chuck my camper on and its a slug on meth. But it is only a small engine. Hopefully one day it will grenade and then I have no excuse to get real motor. Well got one but I just need to build it.