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[BigRAWesty]

Top of the line meth injection kits are around the $700 from memory..

It's like all fuel saving mods though.
I've found 2 methods which work well so far..

Drive slower, or not at all..
Huge savings..

[nissannewby]

I see a pattern forming lol, so with your td mods you add fuel and try and lower intake and egt's to get better economy and performance yeah!? And adding a water methanol injection kit should help get you better economy. As a rough guesstimation with this lower fuel consumption how long would it take to pay for it self with the money you save on fuel ?? Say for argument sakes all up it costs you $2000 to buy, fit and tune

We want as much air as possible with our TD. We really actually can't have to much air the more air we have the more efficient we can be. Using plain water injection we aren't adding fuel but are adding cooling so a cooler more dense air charge (more air). Lower intake air temps will always result in lower Egt's. Probably the best kit you can by for our application will set you back about $1000 or so and tuning can be done by the operator it's just a balancing act really finding the sweet spot between ones preferred usage and cooling. And yes we can supply to much water and quench our flame.

Now we can add methanol for some more added cooling but the gain we will see here is power and torque without actually adding anymore diesel. The cost factor with methanol would prob be neutral as methanol costs dollars to see the gain but at the same time we can see better economy. If we were just using water I think you could easily make the cost back in a year or less.

[Alitis007]

We want as much air as possible with our TD. We really actually can't have to much air the more air we have the more efficient we can be. Using plain water injection we aren't adding fuel but are adding cooling so a cooler more dense air charge (more air). Lower intake air temps will always result in lower Egt's. Probably the best kit you can by for our application will set you back about $1000 or so and tuning can be done by the operator it's just a balancing act really finding the sweet spot between ones preferred usage and cooling. And yes we can supply to much water and quench our flame. Now we can add methanol for some more added cooling but the gain we will see here is power and torque without actually adding anymore diesel. The cost factor with methanol would prob be neutral as methanol costs dollars to see the gain but at the same time we can see better economy. If we were just using water I think you could easily make the cost back in a year or less.

Interesting! I think most people would be looking for fuel saving mods more than anything but thanks again for the info.

Never really played with oil burners even in trade school i did a small elective on them ( which i've forgotten most of lol ) and got to play with a couple of motors to set up injection timing and general basic operation. There was a beast of a motor there tho which was this massive supercharged, twin turbo v8 diesel thing which stood at around 5.5 ft tall that i wanted to have a closer look at but was only for the heavy stream mechanics

[nissannewby]

Interesting! I think most people would be looking for fuel saving mods more than anything but thanks again for the info.

Never really played with oil burners even in trade school i did a small elective on them ( which i've forgotten most of lol ) and got to play with a couple of motors to set up injection timing and general basic operation. There was a beast of a motor there tho which was this massive supercharged, twin turbo v8 diesel thing which stood at around 5.5 ft tall that i wanted to have a closer look at but was only for the heavy stream mechanics

Are you sure it was supercharged? It sounds like it may have been a 2 stroke diesel it was very common for them to have what looked like a supercharger fitted but in fact it was only a blower (yes there is a difference). The blower was to aid with scavenging on the 2 strokes. And then they throw a couple of turbos on them and away you go. These things are certainly a beast of their own and I absolutely love the sound of a 2 stroke diesel at full song they sound very impressive.

If you have ever seen the bandag bullet it runs to 2 stroke v8's bolted together.

[Alitis007]

Are you sure it was supercharged? It sounds like it may have been a 2 stroke diesel it was very common for them to have what looked like a supercharger fitted but in fact it was only a blower (yes there is a difference). The blower was to aid with scavenging on the 2 strokes. And then they throw a couple of turbos on them and away you go. These things are certainly a beast of their own and I absolutely love the sound of a 2 stroke diesel at full song they sound very impressive. If you have ever seen the bandag bullet it runs to 2 stroke v8's bolted together.

Your more than likely right, it was mounted near the waterpump and was belt driven and looked alot like those side mounted chargers you see on ls1's and that, the best way for me to describe it is that it looked like a comp cover on a turbo. I'd be lying to you if i said it was a 2 stroke or not coz i don't know lol, but i can tell you most of the heavy mech boys looked like they were having wet dreams about it hahahaaa.

I'll have to look up that bandag bullet, sounds like it'll be one of those tractor pulling dragsters

[Winnie]

I'll have to look up that bandag bullet, sounds like it'll be one of those tractor pulling dragsters

It's way cooler than that.

[Alitis007]

It's way cooler than that.

Can't be cooler than a 13bt half bridge extend port

[nissannewby]

Can't be cooler than a 13bt half bridge extend port

Unless that 13b can turn 8 Tyres at once.....

[Alitis007]

Unless that 13b can turn 8 Tyres at once.....

8's child's play mate, it can do 13!!!

[Ben-e-boy]

Are you sure it was supercharged? It sounds like it may have been a 2 stroke diesel it was very common for them to have what looked like a supercharger fitted but in fact it was only a blower (yes there is a difference). The blower was to aid with scavenging on the 2 strokes. And then they throw a couple of turbos on them and away you go. These things are certainly a beast of their own and I absolutely love the sound of a 2 stroke diesel at full song they sound very impressive.

If you have ever seen the bandag bullet it runs to 2 stroke v8's bolted together.

Fark I love the sound of a Detroit screamer, especially with jakes......