old tec vs new tec

[gaddy]

Just got back from fraser today after a great week away and really love the simpliciety of the old school 4.2 td . the altanator died yesterday lucky had a couple of fully charged batteries in the camper , and was able to get from happy valley to brisbane easily , the gauges started to die just as we pulled ito the driveway and had to hook up to the another battery to get the windows up , just love a rig that does not need all the electronics to keep on going

cheers
Gaddy

[BigRAWesty]

Love em to.. less to f up in my eyes which makes travelling the outback less stressful..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

[macca]

Ive had a common rail hitech in a 4B plus our two work vans have that motor. They perform really well and are not thirsty.

But the EDU failed on the 4B and left us stranded in the bush, a big tow to a road then a trailer 3 hours to home. It took mechanics 3 days to fix as "this has never happened before"
(Electronic Distribution Unit, it fires the injectors)

Got rid of that vehicle and bought the Patrol, it has some electrics on the fuel pump but thats all, and it has not been to the mechanics as a result of a trip not like the other "unbreakable" vehicle.

Simplicity is best even if it does use a lot more fuel.

[threedogs]

When Brad Newham had the servo in Birdsville 99% of desert rescues were computer related, but properly serviced a hi tech 4x4 is a thing of beauty to drive IMO

[MQ MAD]

Simplicity is best even if it does use a lot more fuel.

"Simplicity is best even if it uses a LITTLE more fuel "

In the grand scheme, the older ,more agricultural engines wernt overly exxy in the first place
Advancements of technology,more efficient engines under 5 L/100 Ks should be most cars ,but its not
New cars although effecient engines have all the bells and whistles,that put more weight in some models
A new base model commodore is heavier than a base model HQ holden
Talking to a fella the other day he gets average 18L/100Ks in his falcon wagon towing a little van,bout 1 1.5 T
I get around 25 L/100Ks give or take towing over 2 tonne in the GQ
7L difference is alot, but im pulling more weight in a heavier car, thats not stremlined
We average 10L/100Ks on highway run in the ol MQ SD33 4 speed wagon,not bad for a tank that had half a million Ks on the engine
Fellas are getting between 12-14 L/100Ks in boosted ,cooled SD33Ts in MQ/MKs
The older car figures above arent too far of what people get in the new breed
Actually the landscaper in town has a newish petrol V6 rodeo,it gets fuel consumption on par with our GQ

[mudnut]

I know some of you don't like the Rb30, but it has never failed to get me home. I may have had to free up the second stage of the carby in the early months of ownership, but it still ran. My told trol has luxuries, like, air con, central locking and p/steering. Non of these should stop the vehicle if they fail. The Keep It Simple Stupid principle works for me. I'm spewing that newer vehicles are so complicated.

[Rustyboner81]

I know some of you don't like the Rb30, but it has never failed to get me home. I may have had to free up the second stage of the carby in the early months of ownership, but it still ran. My told trol has luxuries, like, air con, central locking and p/steering. Non of these should stop the vehicle if they fail. The Keep It Simple Stupid principle works for me. I'm spewing that newer vehicles are so complicated.

Rb30 carby hey. Interesting.
Can i pick yer brain now if your not too busy

[Winnie]

Even my TB42E had issues with water getting into the ECU via a leaky windscreen, cost over $1000 to replace and fix all the issues it caused

[Rustyboner81]

Mudnut.
I got no petrol running at the moment.. ive had the fuel pump out and it has no power to it. Checked all the fuses i can find theyre all good.
So im assuming that its the fuel stop soliniod cutting the power to the pump.
Only thing is i dont know where it is.....

And the other thing is i get very bad fuel economy, you mentioned you did carby work. Did it improve fuel consumption?

Im not blowing any smoke at all so im pretty sure all the fuel is being burnt

Apart from that im

[gaddy]

this was the first time on the island with the patrol , we had a 2.7 lux previously fuel ecnomey out of the patrol was a shite load better , the ride was super comfy , coils vrs leaf and torsion , and if the lux had done the same , I would have had to get the altanator sent to the island and fit , easy to do job but still no car for a few days and more expensive , or the super expensive flat bed to rainbow beach ,
In my mind there is a place for all the technology available and it is nice to have , but when things go wrong it is always a chain reaction as all these things run off each other , one thing faults the whole system dies , and it is never while picking up the milk at the local shop ,
and if you are in the more remote parts of our great country the local fix it blokes idea of technology is a test light , and if ya real lucky he may have a multi meter , come to think of it thats all you really need to get a old tec donk singin along , maybe a half inch ring spanner and a 10 inch shifter flat head and a philips screw driver

Gaddy

Gaddy