[QUOTE=beansathome;146055]im really thinking about making my own rear bar and sliders i might invest in a cheep bender from supper cheep or something and give it a go. i have no problem wih welding and grinding i recon i couuld make them look prety.

Don't bother buying a cheap pipe bender, the dies don't work with the chinese pipe you are sold these days.
I have got one with reasonable dies I bought quite a few years ago you can use at the working bee
if you like.
It still doesn't do a nice bend on the pipe you get these days, it almost has to be mandrel bend to get a
nice radius.
Someone mentioned the price of dies that work and for a one off item not worth it. IMHO.