General Banter

[Avo]

I believe a simple injection of MEATLOAF from the camp kitchen at site would be enough to stop anything!

Or bleach

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[Plasnart]

Google why car lithium batteries fail when incorrectly charged. Scary crap indeed. I have seen some stories about Firefighters struggling for hours to put out crashed EVs. Imagine that on your property! Someone needs to design a system that injects a fluid into the batteries to neutralise them after a heavy impact.

Without guidance I googled the issue and came up reading this site:

https://www.ionenergy.co/resources/b...attery-safety/

The scary bit I've cut and pasted below.



Now that we know why lithium-ion batteries catch fire, let’s look at the some of the ways this can happen:
A. Manufacturing Defects

Flaws in production can cause metallic particles (impurities) to seep into the lithium-ion cell during the manufacturing process. Battery manufacturers need to ensure stringently controlled cleanrooms for manufacturing batteries.

Another defect could be the thinning of separators which could prove detrimental in actual use. Cells should undergo strict quality-control tests and validation before being sold.

B. Design Flaws

Car companies want to design their cars as sleek and slim while giving the maximum range and performance. These requirements push battery pack manufacturers to come up with compact designs by packing high-capacity cells into a smaller body, messing with an otherwise well-built battery.

Compromising on the design can cause damage to the electrodes or the separator. Either of which could result in a short circuit. Further, the absence of a proper cooling system or vent can cause battery temperatures to rise as the flammable electrolyte heats up.

If uncontrolled, it could result in a chain reaction of cell failures, causing the battery to heat up even more and spiral out of control.



So I take this advice from that article:

1. Don't buy Chinese lithium batteries.
2. Don't buy lithium battery vehicles of any brand, just yet.

Too scary for me.

[Mickhead]

1. Diesel and petrol powered vehicles never catch fire.
2. Lipos ( rc vehicles ) and Li Fe po4 camping batteries are a different beast.
3. EV batteries will catch fire if badly damaged due to the HUGE amounts of stored energy.
4. At $1.80 per liter I wish I was driving a Tesla right now. Or not, because my license would be quickly lost😂😂😂

[mudnut]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ7sd48LHA John Cadogan's witty commentary on Thermal runaway.

[Plasnart]

Still think Batman was better.

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[mudnut]

Electric Humvees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9V5b5FSxGk

[mudnut]

Still think Batman was better.

Batman.jpg

Chris Rock: "Oh! A game of slaps! Best two out of three?"

[rusty_nail]

Electric Humvees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9V5b5FSxGk

They look pretty cool though, not the look I mean, just the potential. Still the range isn't great(I think I read about 350 miles) and let's face it, it's not going to make it to Australia for a long time due to our current government incentives for "green" vehicles, they have much bigger and more lucrative markets to focus like Europe.

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[mudnut]

They look pretty cool though, not the look I mean, just the potential. Still the range isn't great(I think I read about 350 miles) and let's face it, it's not going to make it to Australia for a long time due to our current government incentives for "green" vehicles, they have much bigger and more lucrative markets to focus like Europe.

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The owners will tow gensets and annoy the hell out of everyone when they recharge the batteries, overnight.

[Plasnart]

DIY advice for the wood workers here from Kenny Everett!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2BO5Obg2k