Thanks guys and good setups! Im at a bit of a cross road to how i want the patrol set up, i love our double swag but the misses prefers the roof top tent thats on my other 4wd but also having a 4yo son that sleeps with us when camping i have been thinking of buying one of those turbo tents. They all have there postive and negatives, the thing i like about the roof top tent is the room underneath great for storage and getting changed or using the toilet but i dont like it when its wet and trying to dry it out, the swag is great for cold trips when we go to the lakes for a fish much warmer then the rooftop tent,