On track 4x4 HMBCift kit

[1nando]

I am going through this right now, with the same car. I HAVE booked in at the end of this month for the TJM Explorer (single hoop) bar on the front, with recovery hooks, lights and an aerial to go on it as well as the 2" lift.

From what I can see online, if you don't get the lift, it only sags around 10mm - OnTrack also suggested this. So I am now thinking about not getting the lift done, and seeing how it goes. Regarding the bump stops that people keeps talking about, well - it's within the 85kg limit (I am not getting a winch) so it's within its design specs to be able to handle the bar up the front, with the recovery hooks (which I am guessing are about 20kgs all up). I'm like you though - very undecided. I will be getting a bar though, mostly for the protection but partly also for the fact I will be driving at night and want good lamps up front (not behind the grill or with an LED Bar) and to mount the aerial.

OnTrack also advised that with the 200+ lift's they've done, a percentage (they mentioned maybe a dozen) had issues with the CV boots. This can be remedied by putting on different boots they have - but it costs around $600. For me, that's a 5% fail rate, and to be honest it scares me a little. I get that I can fix it if it becomes an issue - but I don't do beach, I do remote travelling which is the last place I want a CV failing.

What I really want are just replacement springs for the front that are just a little stiffer in order to maintain the height - but OnTrack has said they can't do that, although it beats me why (perhaps the Y62 uses some specific ones that only come with that larger lift if required).

At the end of the day, I don't need a lift. But like you, the idea of bump-stopping along outback tracks has me, at this stage, leaning towards getting the lift. I think I need to call them again just to have the conversation... perhaps I'll not get the lift and then later go and do it if I need a Rear Bar or similar (if you get a rear bar later, it's a different set of springs they need to install).

Hi mate, we're both in the same boat. I hate the idea of a lift on a vehicle without live axles. I would prefer as you mentioned stiffer front springs but my research has indicated that the only way to go about this is via on tracks lift.

I have confirmed with my dealer that any drivetrain issue that could potentially arise will not be covered as a result of the lift. I sold my pride and joy defender to buy this vehicle as a comfotable and safe family tourer, spent a lot of money and got the nissan extended warranty rather than the dealership one. Last thing i want is to modify this thing and then start running into potential problems costing me money and basicllay regretting selling my landy. (Before anyone starts banging on about landys this thread is in regards to my question regarding suspension so if you don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself as i know LR's are hated by a lotof people.)

I figure if im installing a bullbar it needs to offer complete frontal protection otherwise i won't bother. The single loop will save weight but still leave a lot of the front of the vehicle exposed to potential damage. My family and i do quite a bit of driving at night and the idea of an animal strike without a bullbar isnt my idea of fun.

It's confusing because some report the bullbar as being fine with only 10mm sag on the standard setup and others claim that it rests on the bump stops. I'd love a clear answer but i just cant get one.

If you could please keep me posted when you get your bar installed it would be appreciated.




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