Everyone on this Forum is allowed to express there opinion. You have stated that you dont think we should have the rule and that is OK. One of the reasons for the 25 post rule is to encourage Members to join in.Originally Posted by trollman
I dont agree with some of the rules of our Society but I have to obey them.
Dont take any of this personally and just enjoy the fellowship and sharing of knowledge
No one needs to be banned...why?
You have been around for a while and have contributed 36 posts . They were not rubbish..they were decent posts so there is no issue.
What this forum is trying to stop is people coming in and grabbing the manual for nothing and pi55ing OFF!.
You have to realize someone has to host this forum and pay for the bandwidth associated with all the down/up loads, so having to contribute a fraction for the manual is not too much to ask....is it???
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I don't have a short temper. I just have a quick reaction to bullshit
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
WTF ............bye bye
HELL NO !!!!!!
Your're are right Nispat. Not too much to ask for. But there has to be a better way.
How many members v how many regular contributors?
Why is this divide so great?
Maybe the link to; or upon request. Would be the best answer.
But I don't agree with calling people scum.
Trying to point out that if someone is in need of the manuals and creating a 25 post rule, and expecting 25 posts of 'value' when the dude may just want to repair his vehicle and get out wheeling.
If so many sign up just for the manuals, how is it that so few contribute, but are still members?
Agree, There is a better way and having these discussions will hopefully resolve in a better and a fairer way for all.
As for the divide between regular contributors and members is the same with all forums. People join the forum, grab the information they need and go away. Most forums have some kind of restrictions and some you need to join to even look at the info. So this is pretty uniform between forums and I don't think this divide will be reduced.
As I mentioned before it is definitely in the spirit of this forum to call people names, etc, thats why this forum is much more friendlier than others. You will see by some of the member quotes" I came here to get some info but I'm still here after months".
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I don't have a short temper. I just have a quick reaction to bullshit
WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people and damage property.
whats your problem .....nit picking
just enjoy the forum as we do, it`s a bucket load of fun and it`s not all about our PATROLS
where do you get you figures from ????
im on just about every day, and not a day goes by without a heap of laughs most nothing to do with our NISSANS
and every day people are helping each other from all corners of the world, not just Auzzziestralia
Have to say I agree with you Trollman - read my posts above as testament to that. There has to be a better way and such a seemingly innocuous issue is breeding heaps of issues ... I still like the concept that the manual is freely available however you simply have to email one of the admin/mods for a copy - they take the responsibility for ensuring they make you feel welcome etc and hopefully you'll contribute further - if not, no harm done, no crap posts, and complete invisibility to the forum which stops these types of discussions.
As per a few others - the value of the intellectual property contained in the document is becoming less and less, but headache involved in managing it is becoming more and more ..
Hope you come back mate - everyone is entitled to opinion, but that said, if everyone just understands each others thoughts on the topic, then that is what differentiates us from other forums and let's just get on with it ...
I do appreciate the overall good heartedness of this forum.
and I accept we can all be 'hot heads' at times.
all cool from my side.
I think a lot of the divide irrespective of the bandwidth issues etc (which are real issues and not to be dismissed) is the difference between who wants the manual for real reasons. That is, many of us get involved in the debate not really having a need for the manual as we don't do the work ourselves. I have the manual and have rarely used it, but can definitely see the value it represents to some ... that needs to not be forgotten ... doesn't change the situation regarding spammers I know, but we need to appreciate (like anything) that one mans trash is anothers treasure.
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