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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
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    I'm wondering if one hub was already gone and I didn't realise as the locker would keep drive to the other wheel??
    If it is both hubs then that is very likely.

    What are the symptoms if the pins in an Auto Locker fail?
    In the Lokka the pins have been known to break
    I've had 3 now but never had a failure myself.

    Will the vehicle lose all front drive or will the locker 'revert' to open diff... anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nissannewby View Post
    Where was the invite.......
    I'm always keen to go for a wheel, I only have one wheel drive at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    If it is both hubs then that is very likely.

    What are the symptoms if the pins in an Auto Locker fail?
    In the Lokka the pins have been known to break
    I've had 3 now but never had a failure myself.

    Will the vehicle lose all front drive or will the locker 'revert' to open diff... anyone?
    Yeah mate, I don't know. I have just done basic check with the little understanding I have of how it all works.

    I have just jacked up the rear wheels and with the vehicle running in H4 first gear, both front wheels on the ground and one hub removed at a time with the other hub being locked.

    Both axle rotated and I was unable to stop the rotation with my hand and a rag.

    At no stage did it look like the front wheels were going to drive the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Yeah mate, I don't know. I have just done basic check with the little understanding I have of how it all works.

    I have just jacked up the rear wheels and with the vehicle running in H4 first gear, both front wheels on the ground and one hub removed at a time with the other hub being locked.

    Both axle rotated and I was unable to stop the rotation with my hand and a rag.

    At no stage did it look like the front wheels were going to drive the vehicle.
    That would mean must be the Locker/Diff to me, maybe Transfer Case/Drive, but mekanikle stuff is as far away from my field of expertise as Ghandi was from his first shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    That would mean must be the Locker/Diff to me, maybe Transfer Case/Drive, but mekanikle stuff is as far away from my field of expertise as Ghandi was from his first shit
    Bugger…. to me it confirms the hubs. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Bugger…. to me it confirms the hubs. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part.

    I think it's time for a beer.
    ROFL... well that means either that one of us is right or we are both wrong... 'cept for the beer... that is never wrong
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    I had the exact same issue two weeks ago when i rebuolt thefront end. One of the concerted auto hubs had taken water so i removed the hub, and removed the centre gear section of the locking hub. Cleaned it out, regreased it and put it back in. Then i had no 4wd.
    I removed the hub and when i put the centre gear part back in i didnt line up the two tabs on the gear to the hub. So it wouldn't lock in.
    Not sure if this helps but theres really not much to the auto hubs.

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    Just thought of something else. Have you packed the free wheeling hubs with grease? Too much and the gear won't move over the axle enough to engage.

    edit;
    The engaging ring is spring backed so when locked it might sit on top of the opposing ring until the axle/wheel turns allowing it to line up and push into place.

    If the cavity where the axle goes is full of grease it wont let the rings engage as the grease wont compress or move to allow the movement required.
    Last edited by macca; 15th May 2016 at 09:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    I had the exact same issue two weeks ago when i rebuolt thefront end. One of the concerted auto hubs had taken water so i removed the hub, and removed the centre gear section of the locking hub. Cleaned it out, regreased it and put it back in. Then i had no 4wd.
    I removed the hub and when i put the centre gear part back in i didnt line up the two tabs on the gear to the hub. So it wouldn't lock in.
    Not sure if this helps but theres really not much to the auto hubs.

    Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk
    I haven't pull the hubs apart yet. I might do that and see if I can see something. How do they come apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    Just thought of something else. Have you packed the free wheeling hubs with grease? Too much and the gear won't move over the axle enough to engage.

    edit;
    The engaging ring is spring backed so when locked it might sit on top of the opposing ring until the axle/wheel turns allowing it to line up and push into place.

    If the cavity where the axle goes is full of grease it wont let the rings engage as the grease wont compress or move to allow the movement required.
    The grease is fine. When locking the hubs manually they use to have a springy type feel and then like pop when in lock, they don't have that now. I think I will try pulling them apart when I get the chance.

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