Manual grabbers

[Bigrig]

I really don't know what to do about this problem. I personally haven't downloaded a manual [never really thought about it].
What pisses me off is that these KNOBS annoy my mates on here & make life hard for the moderators. Really is that hard to be a part of a like minded group & put some genuinely interesting posts up, you never know you might even enjoy it.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Yep - it sort if filters out the crap from the get go - I'd rather have 200 contributing members than 2000 users who you rarely hear from (if at all after they get the manual).

[HippoNZ]

Fair enough making it easy for them to download, but! the way I see it is you give some and get some, a 2 way street you might say. I don't particularly like the fact that some fella just comes on here and either posts sh!t then buggers off with the manual orrrrr just comes on here and downloads the manual ( if AB were to change the rules) because at the end of the day they are wasting the accounts bandwidth for tossers. If your on here getting amongst it I think it is then the privilege having access to the manuals for sharing info, photos etc otherwise we don't get the bandwidth for us people on here who deserve it. I just don't like the idea of getting something for nothing in return.
Thats my rant lol

[Bigrig]

Fair enough making it easy for them to download, but! the way I see it is you give some and get some, a 2 way street you might say. I don't particularly like the fact that some fella just comes on here and either posts sh!t then buggers off with the manual orrrrr just comes on here and downloads the manual ( if AB were to change the rules) because at the end of the day they are wasting the accounts bandwidth for tossers. If your on here getting amongst it I think it is then the privilege having access to the manuals for sharing info, photos etc otherwise we don't get the bandwidth for us people on here who deserve it. I just don't like the idea of getting something for nothing in return.
Thats my rant lol

And like so many others, you're spot on mate!! It's a small problem really, but impacting and important enough to have this level of response and passion from the members who truly appreciate the place.

[Dhuck]

Your thoughts on the matter as you were explaining last night is the right idea I think mate

[timbar]

I recon if you just put a text file inside the zip saying that you must contact the admin for the real file that way if they just put 25 posts worth of $hit they just wasted there time

zip files can be password protected may be they can download the zip file then have to PM Andy to get the Password to unlock the zipped manual in which time Andy can check there posts to determine they are eligable

[Finly Owner]

zip files can be password protected may be they can download the zip file then have to PM Andy to get the Password to unlock the zipped manual in which time Andy can check there posts to determine they are eligable

Bloody good idea too.

[wildgu6]

I know and It's a great idea but unfortunately my provider doesnt allow unlimited bandwidth and we're on the highest level ATM which is called the Gold Platnium...lol

I need to find a provider who will give unlimited bandwidth I guess...

Andy havent been on for few days, so missed all this ?? some good ideas on stopping manual grabbers and havent read the whole thread yet, but what if you were to take the manuals off the site and just have a sticky telling members if they are after a manual they need to PM any of the mod's, and if they qualify (what ever the requirements are) the mod can then email the file to them??? might be a bit taxing on the mod's though. Not sure how it all works. Not even sure if im thinkin straight right now but any way if there is a way to stop these scum bags, im in. they just ruin what you guys have worked so hard for. Good work to all the mod's, love your work guys.

[molongmick]

I'm not sure about the reasons of people trying to grab manuals for free. Maybe there should be a small anual fee, paid to ADMIN, which would allow two things, 1. funds to keep the site running and 2. a full finacial membership status which would allow paid memebrs to downlad any manual of their choice.

I know some othere sites have been asked to remove manuals due to copyright infringements, not sure if this would apply here.

[the evil twin]

I'm not sure about the reasons of people trying to grab manuals for free. Maybe there should be a small anual fee, paid to ADMIN, which would allow two things, 1. funds to keep the site running and 2. a full finacial membership status which would allow paid memebrs to downlad any manual of their choice.

I know some othere sites have been asked to remove manuals due to copyright infringements, not sure if this would apply here.

Hmmm... paying can be a dodgy thing... I reckon you will get nastygrams from Organisations that have made the documents free to the Public if you start charging but that would need someone to complain to the publishing organisition I spose.
I think there is one or more WA Police docs around that have a disclaimer saying they are not 'designed' for dissemination to the general public. Doesn't say you can't just says they are not designed for that purpose and the WA Police were handing the older versions out to anyone who asked until stocks run out.
That EMA 4WD Skills document as indeed all there open docs have a copyright saying they are available for "non-commercial individual use"

In a way the manual links are pretty much an online library... just depends how many hoops you want the 'borrower' to jump thru to get the info

I have no real issue either way but I don't think charging a few bucks is the answer

[molongmick]

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say, I was not indicating to charge for the documents, but make documents able for 'full members'. It was just a thought.