TD42t power up help

[Robo]

Ok enough time has passed and finances sorted.
Decided to go topmount ic non water for simplicity and less potential problems.
now which ic humm cross country pwr core, but feedback here is poor service and build questionable.
Hpd look ok but cast tanks.
opinions please, and other kits if ya know of any.
The company.A.R.E in QLD look ok, but near std size cooler so not convinced on that one,
especially as advice so far is go as large as ya can.
ahh also off topic but I'm doing the clutch also and seeing torque is going up eventually, say near double!.
?? nsk safari tuff up to the task?

[Robo]

placed order today hpd tmic 450x300x76 with ic cooling fan temp sender fitted for extra $20.

[Robo]

HPD tmic ,diy fitted and me happy.
most info on Robo's ride.
I'll be doing a full write up on it as soon as I get on top of things.
The boss is also impressed.
She see's,can feel the gains I've been at her about.
And now agrees turbo up size is the go also.

[Robo]

Doing some ringing around on price etc on turbo up sizing.
And this may fly in the face of all the good advise available here, but this needs to be posted.
To be fair to all who want more of there 4by etc, don't we all!.

I'm told by 2 very well know tuning shops anything larger than std ht18 And I WILL LOSE the low down torque that i currently have,
and only stand to gain any additional torque above approx 105kph!!
Told "I will be wasting my time and money".

I'm not planning on speeding etc and not that into 4x4 dirt that much as I think my past post here n there have clearly said.
So my question is why bother upsizing turbo only to lose the torque needed for towing.
Tuners are telling me they have removed many upsized turbos for unhappy customers stating torque lost etc.

Hold off,I know I said 200rwhp but info I could find never mentions losing low down grunt as a result.
& the additional torque is only up to hi in the rev range, to hi for any use for getting off the line with near 3 tonne van.

1 tuner said to me "what do ya think the competition tow vehicles use? "ht18".
I said, but hey they put their money into the comp rig and not the tow vehicle, answer, "no it simply doesn't work for towing thats why".
Ok I don't have time to fancy this up, I gotta get off to paid work.
So don't hold back, prove em wrong, post up dynos charts with ht18 well tuned, and afterwards with say gtx2863R, dyno figures please.
Just after the facts, nothing more, no offence ever intended or implied.

[Ben-e-boy]

Is this a larger turbo they have put on then removed or another company installed the turbo then this company replaced it.

What kind of turbo are they removing to re install the ht18

[nissannewby]

What "turbos" did the remove?

There are some good options on the market now which easily outdo the factory item both in response and overall potential.

Unfortunately there are companies that still fit incorrectly matched turbos to the td42. These mismatched turbos are certainly not as good as the standard one for response.

[Ben-e-boy]

Honestly there would be plenty of instances where their statements are true, and as stated above it is because of a turbo mismatch.
Also a turbo is going to perform how the injector pump tells it to perform mainly.


There is a dyno thread on the other forum and alot of the graphs for 42's of differing setups have their peak torque at 2000-2200 rpm, there is a heap of proof to their prove statements wrong with even a semi thought out setup
My setup has peak torque at the same rpm as some ht18 setups except a shit load more through out the rev range, and it is set up without towing in mind

Edit. Why dont you ask Winnie what a mismatched 2876 and 11mm pump is like to drive before he replaced it with a 2863

[Winnie]

Edit. Why dont you ask Winnie what a mismatched 2876 and 11mm pump is like to drive before he replaced it with a 2863

Yeah crazy. My car had a 2876 when I bought it, replaced with a 2863 and added a cross country cooler.
Had a 50% increase in power and torque, and full boost was about 500rpm earlier which is a crazy jump

[Robo]

[QUOTE=Ben-e-boy;624088]Is this a larger turbo they have put on then removed or another company installed the turbo then this company replaced it.
What kind of turbo are they removing to re install the ht18[/QUOTE

I quoted I was considering fitting GTX2863R,+ reco injectors+ all filters+ valve clearances+ inj pump check-tuning on dyno and possible boost adjustment to get the best out of it I can for now,Before christmas.
and was told x2 "no good" etc, to keep it short.
But I think we're missing the point slightly.

It would be near impossible for me to gather the info on the past said 4bys from these guys,time is money etc.
I simply would be taking up their valuable time.

lets just prove em wrong
If you have the info/knowledge and the dyno charts, post it up and we all can see.
That's why I posted the results of my mornings phone calls, to get to the bottom of this somehow.

OK so a gtx2863r goes well with a 11 mm pump.
will it work well with std pump +dyno of course, or is this the reason why they remove em mismatch.
what other tuning-settings are necessary for this setup to work properly.

And thanks I'll have a look for the charts If I can find em.
that's the sorta reason I was trying to gather the info grouped together, for all to scope.
and others know where this info is, and could simply bring their wealth of knowledge to the party.
pooling brains etc.
going to bed,nite

[jff45]

[/QUOTE
OK so a gtx2863r goes well with a 11 mm pump.
will it work well with std pump +dyno of course, or is this the reason why they remove em mismatch.
what other tuning-settings are necessary for this setup to work properly.
[/QUOTE]

If your engine is a TD42T, I think your standard pump already has the 11mm plunger..