Yet more issues...

[Stropp]

Hey evo if you can make it try wilkinsons suspension in Bayswater or ac 4wd in midvale, both do great work and will give you a quote for what needs doing.

[Rossco]

Hi Evo, I've been following you dramas and feel for you, i know how frustrating it is tracing a problem when everything seems all good.

It's probably new but worth checking the steering stabilizer even if you can find someone's to swap it to see how it goes. It's easy to say but just a process of eliminating things one by one, i know you've been down a fair road already. I had a Sierra that was fine, got a road worthy on it with new tyres, drove it out with the death wobbles. A new stabilizer fixed it tho. I know it's probably been checked to death but Panhard bush's, mounts and tightness. I'm also aware that this should be done by the shop and time and $$ add up which sux. It's also hard to decide when not to preserve with a shop you don't trust. The advice you recieved about patrols problems is rubbish. I broke a Panhard mount in an old GQ and got it repaired in Mansfield. He told me Patrols were weak and i was better off getting something along the lines of a 60 series.!! Honestly what a loaf of crap there is a reason 90 percent of comp vevicles are patrols, because they are bloody strong, yes they can be prone to wobbles but it can be rectified, and there is no reason not to run mud tyres if everythings all good.

I wish you all the best with it shame to give up now but can understand how shitty you must be feeling. Hopefully you can find a good shop you can trust and are willing to solve the problem and provide some good old fashioned customer service. Good luck with it you deserve to enjoy it.

[Evo]

Thanks guys.

The mechanic said that swivel preload was good, wheel bearing were fine, all steering and suspension links and bushes were fine...
Still cost me $60 though.
Plus another $50 for front wheel balancing.

I would like if someone can rectify, explain, make me understand, how I have been thinking things through over the last couple of nights...

GU drove very smooth and was nice and steady.
Only thing that has changed from being a nice ride to a pig, is the last lot of work done (front and rear wheel bearing, and full swivel hub overhaul).
In my mind, I don't see how this work can affect the suspension, tyres, etc, that caused no issues before.
With tyres, I would think that from the regular rotation, they would all be worn evenly, and not to the point where all of a sudden they cause issues. I've been told they are worn evenly and they are in good condition (no cuts, no chunks missing, no bulges, not even a puncture or repair).
Suspension was all done, I saw it myself, everything was replaced, but nothing has changed between no issues and now.

From all the suggestions, I have, as best as I could, looked underneath and checked nuts, bolts, bushes, checked for play, slop, misalignment, if anything was bent, worn, damaged, if things were free to move, too tight, if there was any interference between components.
Everything seems fine.

Evo

[jay see]

Have any of these mechanics actually driven the thing with you in it?

[BigRAWesty]

Thanks guys. The mechanic said that swivel preload was good, wheel bearing were fine, all steering and suspension links and bushes were fine... Still cost me $60 though. Plus another $50 for front wheel balancing. I would like if someone can rectify, explain, make me understand, how I have been thinking things through over the last couple of nights... GU drove very smooth and was nice and steady. Only thing that has changed from being a nice ride to a pig, is the last lot of work done (front and rear wheel bearing, and full swivel hub overhaul). In my mind, I don't see how this work can affect the suspension, tyres, etc, that caused no issues before. With tyres, I would think that from the regular rotation, they would all be worn evenly, and not to the point where all of a sudden they cause issues. I've been told they are worn evenly and they are in good condition (no cuts, no chunks missing, no bulges, not even a puncture or repair). Suspension was all done, I saw it myself, everything was replaced, but nothing has changed between no issues and now. From all the suggestions, I have, as best as I could, looked underneath and checked nuts, bolts, bushes, checked for play, slop, misalignment, if anything was bent, worn, damaged, if things were free to move, too tight, if there was any interference between components. Everything seems fine. Evo

I was thinking this to after reading it but didn't want to eliminate a possible cause.

So if you can I'd personally tension the wheel bearings a little more.
The bigger tyres and bigger offset does add more force. So the tension may not be up to it.
Being a gu I'd tension one hole at a time.
If it feels like it went to easy then go 2 holes.
If you can tighten it half a turn and the wheel still spins then you have every right to kick the mechanic in the nuts.

[Bigcol]

Thanks guys.

The mechanic said that swivel preload was good, wheel bearing were fine, all steering and suspension links and bushes were fine...
Still cost me $60 though.
Plus another $50 for front wheel balancing.

I would like if someone can rectify, explain, make me understand, how I have been thinking things through over the last couple of nights...

GU drove very smooth and was nice and steady.
Only thing that has changed from being a nice ride to a pig, is the last lot of work done (front and rear wheel bearing, and full swivel hub overhaul).
In my mind, I don't see how this work can affect the suspension, tyres, etc, that caused no issues before.
With tyres, I would think that from the regular rotation, they would all be worn evenly, and not to the point where all of a sudden they cause issues. I've been told they are worn evenly and they are in good condition (no cuts, no chunks missing, no bulges, not even a puncture or repair).
Suspension was all done, I saw it myself, everything was replaced, but nothing has changed between no issues and now.

From all the suggestions, I have, as best as I could, looked underneath and checked nuts, bolts, bushes, checked for play, slop, misalignment, if anything was bent, worn, damaged, if things were free to move, too tight, if there was any interference between components.
Everything seems fine.
Evo

REAR wheel bearings.............................
do you have Jack stands?
jack the back of the car up
start it and put it in 1st
get something like a LARGE T square
put it close to the wheel while its rotating (without touching the tyre please....................)
if 1 wheel bearing on the rear is not square, it will give you the wobbles..........

if you had the tools, having a great lump of steel, with a dial indicator would be the best to see if the wheel is actually rotating correctly as your eyes may not pickup the deflection
0.01 out of round would give you wobbles........

just a thought

[threedogs]

I'll stick by phsyically checking the front wheel bearing yourself or get a mate to give you a hand.
Being a GU I'd remove the rear wheels and re-fit them making sure you fit them over that lip.
Its a common prob on GUs and a shop with a rattle gun in hand will easily miss it, This was one
reason GU wheels loosened.
What ever you do please do it one thing at a time. Even write down what you do
Might beg to differ about the rear wheels being balanced, but that wont fix your problem
The good thing is its costing you nothing to re-check

[Evo]

jay see - Yes. One even picked the slight vibration at a lower speed, but still put it down to tyres/balance.

biggqwesty - I did attempt this but didn't do anything as I thought best to use the proper tool (which I don't have).

Bigcol - The patrol doesn't have wobbles, just steering shake and a vibration.

threedogs - Health and motivation are currently making me leave this alone for a while.

Evo

[BigRAWesty]

Which tool bloke? Tensioner?
Just go by feel. You want a good firm feel on the spanner but still want the tyre to turn.

[Stropp]

evo, i need to retighten my front wheel bearings when i do the front as it seems the left front will not seat correctly the first time , you need to jack the front wheels up and grab the wheel or tyre top and bottom and give it a shake to see if there is any movement, my bet will be the bearing needs tightening, if you need a hand let me know.