NADS question

[colb62]

I just had a talk to a young man at Patrolapart as we need a new alternator so while I had him on the phone I asked about the NADS (Mudski has shut up shop for holidays). He said it was too late to install the NADS as the problems would already exist in the motor so no point putting it in. So...what do you think? Is it worth going ahead with an install or just wait it out and keep our fingers crossed no cracks have formed or if they have then the motor is stable for a long time. He did say installing NADS could delay the inevitable and unless we want to pull the motor apart now and check the head etc it's still not worth it.

[threedogs]

Big statement not all ZD30 Di fail, I have 220K on the clock and only nadded it at 185K
Not sure I'm on board with that comment,
My exhaust guy told me mine was going to blow up as it had excessive blow by Doh
If concerned get your exhaust fumes checked for coolant.
Fit your gauges set your Dawes/needle and drive the bloody thing
Never heard it being too late,
I'm hoping as a Vendor sponor here they could clear up that comment

[Sir Roofy]

big statement not all zd30 di fail, i have 220k on the clock and only nadded it at 185k
not sure i'm on board with that comment,
my exhaust guy told me mine was going to blow up as it had excessive blow by doh
if concerned get your exhaust fumes checked for coolant.
Fit your gauges set your dawes/needle and drive the bloody thing
never heard it being too late,
i'm hoping as a vendor sponor here they could clear up that comment

i did my 3l di at 171xxx and nad,ed straight up have now done 258xxx and after captains flat probably another 1200
on top of that id get it done yes could be a problem there its always a gamble but do it anyway you never know you might have a winner and who knows mine might go on this trip as well lol but hope not
weve done loveday the simpson nearim retreat nat meet in queensland canberra a couple of times now as well as taree nsw it is always in the back of my mind if you drive at 110 120ks all the time yea she might go
give it a bit of respect and it may last longer

[mudski]

I just had a talk to a young man at Patrolapart as we need a new alternator so while I had him on the phone I asked about the NADS (Mudski has shut up shop for holidays). He said it was too late to install the NADS as the problems would already exist in the motor so no point putting it in. So...what do you think? Is it worth going ahead with an install or just wait it out and keep our fingers crossed no cracks have formed or if they have then the motor is stable for a long time. He did say installing NADS could delay the inevitable and unless we want to pull the motor apart now and check the head etc it's still not worth it.

Not very good advice you got there. If you already have engine damage. Wouldn't you know about it? The engine surely wouldn't perform if you did.
If the motor seems fine why wouldn't you install the nads?
Cost of a full nads setup which is catch can, gauges etc etc is around say under 1k. Thats the works.
What's a new motor or rebuild for a zd30 these days? 8k maybe?
If the motor is using oil, blowing a heap of smoke, and it looks like its on its last legs then yeah I would say dont bother.
IMHO, many resellers and workshops don't do or think its worth it just because they dont fully understand the whys and hows.

Cheers.

[Rumcajs]

It is worth doing IMHO, because part of the mods is to remove the idiotic ECU control and gaining extra performance and driveability if not for anything else.
NADS won't necessarily prevent the failure once the damage has gone beyond the critical point or is fool proof (fundamental design flaw/issue remains) but give the option to be in damage control of the failure instead passively awaiting for the boom.

Regards

[BillsGU]

The damage to most ZD30 motors is accumulative – it happens a bit at a time – like erosion. It does not matter if the motor has a few Ks on it – as Mudski said – if it has no apparent damage, then why risk doing any or more damage.
I have spoken to some fairly cluey mechanics and they have trouble getting their heads around the problem, and even more so around the NADS cure. But it works, and it gives you a more reliable, more fuel efficient and more driveable vehicle. What is the down side of that?
At the end of the day it’s up to you, but make sure you do your homework and make your own mind up.

[colb62]

I did say that I had talked to you, Mudski, about it and that it was highly recommended when we had first bought it but he stuck to his guns and said it was too late. Anyway, I will be in touch later to get the NADS setup. I would have ordered it now so we could do it and the alternator all at one time but I just had to replace the battery in the falcon, I need new tyres and the bank balance is a bit low after Christmas. Not having much luck with our cars these days.

[Hodge]

If I had a dollar for everytime someone told me "No amount of band-aid will help your grenade". I'd be able to afford a brand new Patrol right now!
In my search recently for a mechanic to fix my "grenade" coolant leak, few have told me what a waste of money the catch can and the EGR block are as it does jack s#it. If it's gonna blow up, it's gonna blow up...
Was sort of annoying coming from mechanics. They lost my business.

[SG1]

When we bought our Patrol last year, it wasn't a question of if we were to fit NADS but more of when, been happy with the results so far.

[mudski]

If I had a dollar for everytime someone told me "No amount of band-aid will help your grenade". I'd be able to afford a brand new Patrol right now!
In my search recently for a mechanic to fix my "grenade" coolant leak, few have told me what a waste of money the catch can and the EGR block are as it does jack s#it. If it's gonna blow up, it's gonna blow up...
Was sort of annoying coming from mechanics. They lost my business.

Those mechanics are either real old school and have never worked on a motor with an egr, or they are still wet behind the ears in the trade and are only saying that, because they heard someone else say it. If a mechanic said to me an egr block does nothing I would laugh in their face and walk off.