Tigerz11 banned from Melbourne 4x4 show

[threedogs]

And 21 pages later we fell for it,,,,,,,,possible

[BigRAWesty]

If they do td I hope Mr Paul mogan has taken notes of the whole f up and takes the scum down for damages and deprivation againt the show..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

[SonOf]

Looking forward to the rest of this story, made a good read over a wine or 3.

If they have indeed done this as a PR stunt because they thought they were too good to be left out, then they are total pelicans.

On the cheap vs quality issue, been flicking through the copies of their mag I have lying around (yes I will admit I still get it from time to time for the DIY) & funnily enough on all the "tough" rigs etc they show I cannot see any of their gear, nor is it mentioned in the specs

[taslucas]

$20 on the come out stating is was a planned media stunt and sorry it got outta hand...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

yeah probably the only reason they could make up to get out of it all with a scrap of dignity.

And 21 pages later we fell for it,,,,,,,,possible

I haven't fallen for anything. I, (like most people on here I imagine) haven't changed my mind regarding their products or service

FanTapstic!

[Gstone]

G'day everyone, Brenno here. Geez, hasn't this matter about Tigerz11 and Roo Systems at the Melbourne Show blown up quickly! A couple of days out in the scrub and you come back to this topic going crazy. So, my please accept apologies for the delay, but here's some clarification, as has been requested.

It all started with Christian from Roo Systems being given the run-around by Paul Morgan the promoter of the show, while trying to book a stand. Numerous un-returned phone calls and emails, long delays between any sort of communication and when contact is finally made, the answer is 'we're all booked out'. That didn't sound right, so more calls were made, messages left and finally a week later came the reply we'd half been expecting. "Some influential players in the industry have said if you are there, they won't be". Half expected, but still pretty rough.

No-one likes playing the 'he said, she said' game, because all it ends up sounding like, is a couple of spoilt little kids arguing over who broke the vase. But let me put it this way. From an external viewpoint, I can't see any reason or benefit to Roo Systems and Tigerz11 making all this up. Seriously, what have they got to gain from not going to a 4WD show? Missing out on the ability to sell products to 4WDers who are actively looking to buy gear for their 4WDs? Doesn't sound like a good business plan to me, especially since both Glenn and Paul have said that they've been wrapt with the response they've got from previous shows – this year's Brisbane show in particular, with the Adelaide show already booked for later this year. It also doesn't sound like a very good stunt to me. Stunts generally have a purpose, and it's usually not to disadvantage yourself!

On the other hand, you've got a show promoter who personally admits to being leaned on heavily by people who spend a lot of money with him, 'some influential players in the industry' (his words!). The Tigerz and Roo displays have always been small bikkies compared to what some of the other stands are worth to the promoter, which seems to be the reason why they responded the way they did.

4WD shows are a way for companies to directly interact with their customers, and offer seriously good deals that they couldn't offer at any other time, because they had a truck full of gear out the back ready to be taken home that day, the old 'cash and carry' idea. That's why you pay an admission fee to go and look at gear to buy, because the idea was always that you would easily make that admission fee back in savings! That's what I find the most frustrating out of all of this - that is EXACTLY what Roo and Tigerz are offering, sensational deals, the ability to pick the gear up and take it home that day, and for all of this they're being punished.

Look, I'm not asking that you believe what I say without question. I just want you to make up your own mind. 4WDers aren't idiots, we're regular everyday people who - in my experience -- have a pretty good nose for detecting when something stinks. Consider both sides of the story, consider who has the most to gain from all of this and always remember that people tell their own versions of events to suit their own purposes.

Take all these politics out of the matter for a moment, because I really think we're all forgetting the big picture. 4WDing is about spending time in the bush, finding that perfect campsite, sitting around a campfire with mates and the tracks you drove to get there. Who cares what brand of winch you have? All that matters is you've got one, and you get it dirty!

What rubbish.

[MEGOMONSTER]

Really, who is telling us the while truth.
None of them, I bet.

[MudRunnerTD]

Cut and pasted from a face book post....


Hi all,

I'd just like to make quite clear that Tigerz11 and Roo Systems were not "banned" from the Melbourne 4x4 Show, as 4WD Action and Roothy so incorrectly, irrationally and embarrassingly stated.

The fact is that they had not rebooked their stands for the 2013 show when they had to opportunity to do so and they were consequently on sold. We offer first-right-of-refusal to ALL previous show exhibitors, but after countless phone calls and emails to 4WD Action (4WD Action manage the show bookings for Tigerz and Roo... no surprise there!) we had no reply.

When they did finally wake up to the fact the Melbourne 4x4 Show was fast approaching they attempted to book in, but unfortunately due to the high demand for exhibition space this year, coupled with the fact they requested a larger stand indoors for Tigerz11 which we did not have, we just couldn’t accommodate them. Instead of enquiring on an option outdoors for the Tigerz11 or Roo stands, they cracked the sad’s and we didn’t hear from them again… until now.

In the end, it was the stupidity of 4WD Action to claim they were banned from the Melbourne 4x4 Show, Roothy to shoot off his mouth, without first finding out all the facts (geez Roothy what's happened to you mate, you used to be an iconic and respectable face of the 4wd community... and a valued guest of the 4x4 shows) but the icing on the cake.., to send out a newsletter and mail out to their members, complaining they were banned (opportunity again to have another winch and roof top tent sale) which was a complete and utter lie.

All's I can say, if 4WD Action continue down this path - so very far from the respectable magazine that once was - they'll only succeed in burying themselves. They’ve lost the respect of the National 4x4 Show, the respect of the Industry, the respect of so many of their loyal followers and they’ll never be invited to exhibit at our 4x4 shows ever again.

Regards,
Paul Morgan
Event Manager

a Balanced debate.

The Leeches are Loosing!

[threedogs]

Nah I'm not buying that wouldn't you book 2 maybe three years in advance not 3 to 4 months out and expect a premium site.
Regardless where its held you would book for the following year well in advance. If it sounds suss chances are it is.

[Drewboyaus]

3D they would have been asked to book for next year when the 2012 show finished. It's the same for anything, trade show, kennels at Christmas. If I don't book the kennel at Christmas for the next year we miss out. Simple as that. EMG would know that too....


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

[TimE]

I can understand how cheap crap made in China is "Un Australian", but how is a company that is Australia based employing Australians and using Australian materials "Un Australian".

Me thinks Roothy (formerly know as Westy in motorcycle mag days), would, if he where a "true" Australian, use his real name, and not hide behind the Roothy nom de plume. Then again when you're on a big contract you'll do and say whatever your employer wants from you I suppose.

Am I being too cynical?