Tigerz11 banned from Melbourne 4x4 show

[Nutta28]

I understand but if you keep your vehicle for a long while then paying once for quality makes sense. I can't see the benefit buying cheaper and having to replace it 3 times in the same period.
In saying that there are a lot of products that are comparable in quality with a lower price so it comes down to researching before you buy..

That's what I say.
I used to have a long wheel base Suzuki sierra and I spent money twice or three time by buying cheep or not paying the money to get professionals to do things that where out of my league now with my patrol I only want to spend the money once

[Nutta28]

Some buyers are snobs and will buy brand names regardless.......

Helps when you have a father who is warranties manager at one of these big brands and that father is good mates with some that owns another and that owner is the father of one of ur best mates

[growler2058]

Yep. In law its called "origin of concern" - meaning that in a situation (in a legal sense) of reputed insult with intent and/or malice, the supposed intent or malice (racial taunts, slurs, insult, etc) can only "truly" be determined by the again supposed recipient - that is, if someone says you're being racist, only those that the intended comment is supposedly against can make a determination as to the level (if any) of racial discrimination ...

My point (if there is one! lol) is that whilst you may find the comments offensive as per others, it is only judged by those who are in a position of "origin" to actually determine it as derogatory or offensive. Using the basis of we are an international forum, and subsequently there 'could' be a viewing member from the other side of the discussion who finds it offensive, isn't really a cause for cessation of the behaviour.

That all said, if you, Plassy and/or others found it offensive in a general moral or ethical view, then for that I apologise to you, and hope you all see the good humour (good taste or bad) for which it was intended.


Scotty (Bigrig)

A work mate is a Australasian and he calls me a round eye beep and a white beep and a fat beep am I supposed to be offended?
I tell ya why though, those beeps at EMG who's king size swag shat bits and pieces off it when I set it up at home to wet/season the canvas/stitching can go fork emselves that's offensive......w@nkers they are. Wouldn't step across the road and pi55 on em if they were on fire!


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[cgm]

Two kind of related points to the original thread:

1. OL in Ballarat sent out an email flyer for Warn winches to me and a bunch of others (like heaps of others). Technically someone who sent it had no clue or at the very least made a boo boo and copied all our email address in the "To" field. So, now they were public to everyone. Ok, probably genuine mistake, annoying, but this happens. Next thing you know Tigerz send an email to the same list of email addresses for their stuff. This says it all to me about who Tigerz are. They will drop below all sensible standards, so if they cop crap now I will sit back, watch and enjoy. The quality of their stuff is generally aligned with their pricing (from all observations at a distance).

2. The flip side is, living here in Saudi how come I can buy ARB or Ironman products for 50-60% of the price in Australia? How does that work? The Aussie $ is really high, so buying in another currency should make it more expensive or difficult I would have thought? If it is manufactured or shipped from Aus as well, then it just doesn't make sense. Why so much cheaper here? I'm just guessing, but it seems the Brand names are making good margins in Aus? I definitely like to buy a quality product, but where is the balance in it all? How do we know if they are genuinely struggling to still make a go of manufacturing in Aus or just ripping people off?

Just a couple of thoughts.

[growler2058]

Two kind of related points to the original thread:

1. OL in Ballarat sent out an email flyer for Warn winches to me and a bunch of others (like heaps of others). Technically someone who sent it had no clue or at the very least made a boo boo and copied all our email address in the "To" field. So, now they were public to everyone. Ok, probably genuine mistake, annoying, but this happens. Next thing you know Tigerz send an email to the same list of email addresses for their stuff. This says it all to me about who Tigerz are. They will drop below all sensible standards, so if they cop crap now I will sit back, watch and enjoy. The quality of their stuff is generally aligned with their pricing (from all observations at a distance).

2. The flip side is, living here in Saudi how come I can buy ARB or Ironman products for 50-60% of the price in Australia? How does that work? The Aussie $ is really high, so buying in another currency should make it more expensive or difficult I would have thought? If it is manufactured or shipped from Aus as well, then it just doesn't make sense. Why so much cheaper here? I'm just guessing, but it seems the Brand names are making good margins in Aus? I definitely like to buy a quality product, but where is the balance in it all? How do we know if they are genuinely struggling to still make a go of manufacturing in Aus or just ripping people off?

Just a couple of thoughts.

A mate wanted pedders (I think from memory coulda been monroe actually) point is the factory with an outlet was 10 min drive from him but was cheaper buying from a jeep accessories joint in the states WTF!!


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[oncedisturbed]

CGM - very true in what you say, a lot of identical gear can be purchased OS at a fraction of the cost of purchasing it here, ARB as an example. A lot of it comes down to businesses with rediculous mark up (design costs etc have been paid 100 fold on the items sold) and the Grubbermints taxes etc make a lot of the costs sky-high in which they continue to waste

[NP99]

Helps when you have a father who is warranties manager at one of these big brands and that father is good mates with some that owns another and that owner is the father of one of ur best mates

Who's on third?

[Forced Offroad]

I'm the same in my trade.....plumbing. I have to sell my product a lot harder to get the job. Its sucks when you have pride in your work and only use Australian made products.


As for the banned, Im glade the show has done this if its true. The only persons that have claimed this so far in the 4wdaction.
I think the banned is more toward tigerz11 as they have burnt a lot of people and other 4x4 camponies and roo had no choices.
I've read else where that the big 4x4 companies were going to boycott the show, if ARB recoded sales at the brisabne show were anything to go buy I don't think they would care.

[NP99]

The big players should not be concerned about Tigerz. If the Tigerz product is crap, consumers will soon put them out of business. Every forum out there bags Tigerz........ What do the big players fear?

[macca86]

Australia gets ripped off really bad. I've just bought a motor bike and went to buy gear to ride helmet was 200 armour 200 boots 300 gloves 60 jersey and pants combo 80 all we known name brands I went on line and saw the prices on the AMA website (aussie distributed ) was cheaper then a mate gave me a US website he orders from (btosprots) I can get the same stuff for 150 150 200 30 and 50 respectively in US dollars plus 20 shipping and they asked what bike I ride and gave free stickers spark plug and air filters. Why buy elsewhere cheaper prices and free stuff hard to beat.