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I have seen blokes use a snatch strap on a towball before. I said to them that you are not supposed to do that; it is not safe. The reply "she will be rite." They got the 4wd out OK but sometimes She's Not Rite. I have seen the same attitude to safety in the workplace. It doesn't matter how much you drum safety into some people they think that bad things only happen to other people. Some people cannot be told; they think they know better. Just look at the way people drive on the fwy in Melb. Every time I go there I see cars speeding up the emergency stopping lane just to save a few minutes.