oh ok im an active sailboater haha dont like powerboats =) im a member at RQYS
Originally Posted by gaddy
oh ok im an active sailboater haha dont like powerboats =) im a member at RQYS
Toyota Owner
Type 1 OffenceType 1 offences are defined in section 69A(1) of the Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000 to include those motor vehicle offences more typically considered “hooning” offences committed in circumstances involving a speed trial, race or burn out involving:
• the dangerous operation of a vehicle;
• careless driving;
• participation in speed trials or races; or
• starting or driving a vehicle making unnecessary noise or smoke
Type 2 offences are defined in section 69A(2) of the Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000 as any of the following:
• driving an uninsured or unregistered vehicle;
• certain unlicensed or disqualified driving;
• driving with a blood alcohol concentration above 0.15%, or failing to provide a specimen of breath etc. and driving under related suspensions; or
• driving an illegally modified vehicle.
WTF, So......starting or driving a vehicle making unnecessary noise or smoke, is a WORSE offence than high range drink driving ?
(You boys with older Diesels better just crawl off the lights !)
And driving a illegally modified vehicle (this could be as little as not having mudflaps) is just as bad as drink driving ?
Drive interstate or around Aus, and even though your car is 100% legal in your own state, you may still be breaking the law once you cross a boarder
Why stop here, why not just pass a law that if a cop decides he doesn't like you, he just shoots you with his gun, and consfiscates all your stuff................... yeh, that will fix those hoons for spinning their tyres, thats what "real criminals" like that deserve !
Sure it covers stuff like smokey exhausts and short mudflaps. But I can guarantee you that's not what the vast majority of police use the legislation for.
Tappin trolls
Brendan
If you're following this Patrol, Stop... You're not gonna make it
All these laws are for those considered HOON DRIVING.
So " starting or driving a vehicle making unnecessary noise or smoke" is someone doing a burnout.
These laws have been put in place to be severe to HOON drivers.
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Brendan56 (19th April 2013)
Not so simple.....the law is grey not black and white and is open to interpretation on the spot by each cop. The laws generally are flawed, thats why we have an appeal process!
That's right. Just because the law is intended for tyre smoke, does not mean a cop can't interpret is as diesel smoke.
We driving offences, vehicle offences and then HOON offences, three different laws. How can you justify in court a smokey vehicle to be HOONing.
Come on guys, even the most stupidest copper knows better.
HOONing is declared as reckless and/or dangerous driving.
2011 GU8 ST 3.0 CRD, ARB Bullbar with IPF spotties, scrub bars and side steps, Snorkel, Dual Battery system, Waeco fridge, Turbo Timer, ARB Roof Rack with 5 IPF spotties across the front, Custom full Leather Bucket seats, DPchip, 3" Taipan exhaust, ARE Intercooler & scoop, Autron EGT/Boost and dual volt gauges, ARB front locker.
But that's the whole point with how stupid this law is! This is not decided in the court if law. The cop decides on the spot, and then impounds your car. Then you have to go to court over it. It makes the police judge and jury which is bullchit! It has become guilty until proven innocent.
If the law was black and white i would have no problem. But because its up to the discretion of the officer at the time, whats to say they cant ping you for something thats fine cause they "think" its not?
We are becoming a nanny state. Im not happy about it. If im getting a fine i want it to be the law, not a cops idea of the law.
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NP99 (19th April 2013)
I know that copper, I worked with him a few years back!!!
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