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5th April 2013, 05:37 PM
#11
Patrol Freak
I don't disagree with open speed but to do so we need better roads and more importantly better driver training as that is what a lot of it comes down too. The ability of the monkey behind the wheel.
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5th April 2013 05:37 PM
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5th April 2013, 05:49 PM
#12
Patrol God
dont know if you have been to the territory but the roads up there a generally very good wide roads especially the main hwys, at 110 you get bored and go to sleep, at 140 you know you have to be alert or thats what i found anyway and i did a lot of driving up there whilst working for telstra.
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5th April 2013, 05:54 PM
#13
Patrol God
Didn't it all turn to shite after that race where Japenese driver died in a Ferrari or Lambo but something quick.
Think that was the straw that broke the Camels back, been a while now. I love going quick but rather everyone going in the same direction.
As in on a track. As we all know only takes one in experienced driver at speed to lose it. Education would help. New driver on "P"s
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5th April 2013, 06:31 PM
#14
Patrol Guru
Some history.....
The 130kph was imposed on 1st Jan 2007. By 2009 the road had doubled. It was one of the worst years for road carnage on record.
The feds have never threatend to with draw funding. The Hiway from Adelaide to Darwin is considered vital defense infrastructure.
The speed limit was imposed after advise from people like Harold Scruby.... Need I say more.
Even today the vast number of road acident victims are drunk, indiginous, and in the towns of Alice, Tennant, Katherine and Darwin. The imposition of any speed limit is meaningless to these people.
When the 130 was introduced everyone drove at that speed. When the (//) was the guiding factor everyone drove at their chosen speed. Often much less than 130kph... These are experiences that I have observed personally.
The Japanese driver died in the Cannon Ball rally. A governmet sanctioned moror sport event that brought much $$$ into the NT. He was speeding through a section of hiway that was being repaired and the car club had posted a 100kph speed limit on that stretch. He was travelling at around 200kph in a Ferrari. He was a dentist. That hapenned in 1994 (I think). There was also 2 rally officials killed.
"P" plate drivers are restricted like in any other state.
Back when I could decide what was my safe speed, it's a long forgotten concept of taking responsibility for your own actions, my cruise speed was 200kph driving solo and 160kph with wife and kids. Its no biig deal once you become accustomed to it and the hiways are maintained proply..... Only ever in daylight hours...
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5th April 2013, 06:44 PM
#15
Patrol God
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Originally Posted by
NissanGQ4.2
I'm all for speed, the faster the better
If other countries can build decent roads and autobahns then why can't my tax dollars build decent roads and autobahns here in Australia
The one and only reason is person per square kilometer...
Over in England its around 800 people, China is above 1000, Australia I think is below 100...
So our taxes would need to go up 8 fold to even start thinking about competing on infrastructure.. let alone a super fast internet...
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Owner of
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5th April 2013, 07:21 PM
#16
Rotaredom
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Originally Posted by
Westy's Accessories
The one and only reason is person per square kilometer...
Over in England its around 800 people, China is above 1000, Australia I think is below 100...
So our taxes would need to go up 8 fold to even start thinking about competing on infrastructure.. let alone a super fast internet...
Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories
Our taxes don't need to go up to build a decent infrastructure, we just need a government that can invest and manage money, if our government was a business they would of closed there doors many many years ago
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5th April 2013, 09:03 PM
#17
Legendary
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Originally Posted by
krbrooking
I don't disagree with open speed but to do so we need better roads and more importantly better driver training as that is what a lot of it comes down too. The ability of the monkey behind the wheel.
We put our lives in the hands of the driver approaching us......
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5th April 2013, 10:19 PM
#18
Patrol God
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Originally Posted by
threedogs
........Whats the point of doing more than 130kph on crappy roads.
More fuel usage , more damage from animal strikes, plus wear and tear increases.
I'm happy to plod along and take in the sights of our great brown land......
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Originally Posted by
threedogs
........ I love going quick but rather everyone going in the same direction.
As in on a track. As we all know only takes one in experienced driver at speed to lose it. Education would help. New driver on "P"s
wow what a recipe
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5th April 2013, 10:30 PM
#19
Expert
I don't think our government do anything very smart but I agree with the others, unfortunately one of the drawbacks of few people/large area is that our roads and such simply can't be expected to be maintained as well as these highly populated countries.
I'll happily accept the trade-off though!
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6th April 2013, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
NP99
We put our lives in the hands of the driver approaching us......
Totally agree
In 2000 I towed a 23ft van with an ex ambo ,351 auto around OZ safe overtaking speed 110 kph .
Then you stumble across a convoy of grey nomads sometimes up to 6 underpowered cars towing big vans all bumper to bumper at 70-80 kph GRRRRR.
So you check ahead in the shimmering heat nothing in sight ok out we go you build up speed get half way past the convoy and crap where did he come from in the distance a fast approaching vehicle will I make it better not chance so I backed off only to just make it back in time as some hoon doing estimated 200+ goes flashing past (not just once either)
even though I had miles to pass safely under speed restricted conditions unlimited roads made it a game of russian roulette .
thats my experience
Gaz
ps Ever been passed by a road train doin 120-130 k when your towing a van NOT FUN
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