Bull Bars at risk

[jace75]

Ross what you do for a living?
you seem to have a fair knowledge about HSE requirements.

i only took notice as i am a HSE Manager

[XLR8]

I know i have already posted this and maybe AB can do a thread merge to tidy it up. But this answers alot of Ross's questions. I have not been on alot of the other forums spruking about this but I have been to 4WD Actions petition page. Nowhere do they give the facts and are almost running a scare campaign. People need to be fully informed before they start petitioning their local pollies. This can be worse for us 4WDers than the proposal itself if we appear to be ill informed trouble makers.

This issue has been ongoing since 2000 and has since been warped and twisted by political agendas, misinformation and over-passionte crusaders. Here is some information and links for those outside of the industry to fasmiiarise themselves with as much of the relevant material as I can find.

Bull Bars and Road Trauma Report, 2000 http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../BullBar_1.pdf

Summary of AS4876.1 2002, written using information/input from industry groups and results from above report (full version available for purchase SAI Global) - https://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/conn...+for+bull+bars

Current Bull Bar design guidelines in Western Australia (presumably the same as other states as based on AS4876.1 2002 - http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media..._VS_CI_112.pdf

Study by Adelaide University in 2005 in to VFPS - http://casr.adelaide.edu.au/casrpubfile/157/CASR037.pdf

Excert from Australian Vehicle Standards Rules Ammendment Package 2008 Draft -
Bull bars: currently the Rules require an object fitted to a vehicle to be designed,
built and fitted to the vehicle in a way that minimises the likelihood of injury to a
person who makes contact with the vehicle. The provision calls for a subjective test
which is an unnecessary complication as there is a current Australian Standard
addressing the fitment of bull bars (and other protrusions). The proposal will require
bull bars to be fitted in accordance with the relevant Australian Standard, providing
clarity to the industry, vehicle owners and enforcement officers. It is believed that
there already is a high level of compliance with the Australian Standard from within
industry and therefore, the proposal is expected to have only a minor impact on the
industry. Full Version - http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/Repo...ftRISAug08.pdf)

Summary of actual Proposal circa 2009 (actual publication date unknown) - http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...nt_Summary.pdf

Other related documents including Regulation Impact Statement - http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...r_comment.aspx

AAAA Position Paper, submitted June 2009 - http://www.aaaa.com.au/files/issues/...erBullbars.pdf


Extract from AAAA News In simple terms, if the regulation were adopted in full, there would be a requirement for every new vehicle sold in Australia to meet stringent pedestrian safety criteria, which would be administered via the Australian Design Rule (ADR) process. Full report - http://www.aaaa.com.au/news.asp?id=81

I am not condoning or condemning the regulations, only providing as much information as I can so you can be well informed. The biggest impact of the regulation will be on Bull Bar manufacturers and only in the cost aspect of R & D of new products that will comply to the new regulations. Th Proosal clearly states that the current AS4876.1 2002 will continue to apply for any MC (4WD or SUV) catgory vehicle.

As with the introduction ofAS4876.1 2002, there appears to be no intention to apply the regulations to vehicles/VFPS manufactured prior to the legislation date.

Happy reading,
Mike

[wildgu6]

Done buddy, My Trol would be to costly too maintain the damage sustained if i didnt have me Bullbe.
Thanks TJM for your support.........lol

Cheers Pete

[DX grunt]

Ross what you do for a living?
you seem to have a fair knowledge about HSE requirements.

i only took notice as i am a HSE Manager

I'll pm you.

[MS29431]

I Agree that everyone need to have a better understanding of all the pro's and cons of this arguement as there are alot of grey areas from state to state, thankyou for the info i found it to be a good read not only was there info on regulations for my 4X4 but also for my ute and the truck i drive it also goes into detail about the ADR compliance's also,
But i hope in the end they don't outlaw all bull bars as someone mentioned in an earlyer post.... where are our spotlights, antenna's, fishing rod holders and all other accesory's going to live and i can afford to replace bullbars, guards, grilles and bonnets everytime but not whole cars,
I Know it sounds like i am only thinking about myself in this instance but i love the look of a good bullbar on a vehicle
I Hope they dont ban 'em. Mike