Powerful 4x4 products I purchased not of merchantable quality as they describe!!!

[threedogs]

Ultimate 4wd over WA do a quality bar {beware of copies} not sure on price,
Yeah stay clear of Chinese stuff, or you'll be starting another thread that starts with Bwaaaah ha

[MQ MAD]

Just putting this one out there, maybe it's the car that's not straight and maybe the product is ok........

Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....

Absolutely correct ......
Even brand new off the showroom cars can be and have been damaged before or during dealership delivery
Not like the people unloading from the docks give a hoot
So even something new mite be different in some measurements between a few rigs .....
IF a rear bar,bullbar is done in a minimal movement jig,theres a good chance that within 100 from that jig , 99.9 % will be exactly the same
If the parts are pre cut on an CNC machine the tolerance within 100 bars will be 99 % correct
I worked at a panel beaters way way back when 80 % of their work were new pre delivered cars

Now with the materials used, anyone thought of it costs more to build than material alone ...
Advertising,companiy cars, workers wages,compo,sickies,liability insurance issues both public on premises and product,power,tools, consumables, rents
If the bars in total out the door cost 300 and someone charged 5 K,thats a rip off,not saying it costs that less or even 4999 to make
But huge events sponsored by huge companies come from somewhere,you as the consumer generate profits that some companies spend on events
So next time you see a full page add in a magazine, a 3 minute add on telly,massive billboards around the place,youll see where the ,what some call,massive mark up goes
One of my mates just shut shop,as he wasnt making money
Council charged him a fee of a few grand a year for his billboards,air/space tax or whatever they called it, then paid the land owner an amount a year for it to be there
Then payed 4500 a month for a small yard,around 800 sqm ,plus all overheads,power,fone,insurance,security ect on top
No wonder smaller backyard operations are doin stuff cheaper,they dont wear the overheads

[Stropp]

Just putting this one out there, maybe it's the car that's not straight and maybe the product is ok........

Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....

true there clunky, i recently purchased a part for my car that was i assume plasma cut and it did not quite line up so i had to slightly grind it down to get the holes to line up, the other side went on perfectly, but as my patrol is a 2004 who knows whats happened previously or if indeed it was a monday morning car.

[Drewboyaus]

X 2 Lucas Wandered a tad guys
NO COMPETITION so, if its the only one available,
they can charge what they like I suppose, they are well built, but not designed for towing

Spot on 3D. At the end if the day, they have the best product at a price people are prepared to pay.
As a sales exec, that's my job to maximise the profit for the business through maintaining sales margins as high as possible. We sell a premium product with plenty of backup and have many satisfied customers who pay more than what somebody else might for a different product, comfortable that ours won't fail (unlike some of the competition).....kinda like buying insurance.
If Kaymar can get away with charging what they do, good luck to them. Personally, I will be putting a Milweld on the back of my GQ when it comes time as I'm not prepared to pay Kaymars price.....but then it doesn't appear like they need my business anyway.
Cheers
Drew


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[mudski]

This joint reminds me of another dodgy place that's selling second rate 4by stuff. Hmm, Tigerz...

[Drewboyaus]

This joint reminds me of another dodgy place that's selling second rate 4by stuff. Hmm, Tigerz...

Don't say it......
You know how much he'll will break loose with just a hint of that name....


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[PMC]

i can remember going into their new show room when they first started in bankstown i walked in door and heard the fraze "fully shick mate!!!" spotted a birker and a shamrag and knew i was in the wrong shop.

i am not a racist but when saw the place was owned and run by (being politicly correct) people of middle eastern appearance i knew i would be dealling with them. i have heard some very daming reports from people who have fitted their products and even saw a wheel carrier fall of one of their rear bars.

on the flip side i am having a rear bar fitted to my patrol and had it ordered from MILWELD ENG in mansfield vic it turned up damaged in transit, not only did they dispatch a new bar with out question and free of charge they threw in a jerry can holder for my incoviences. as far as i know they are a aussie company and do all their fabrication in house and to order might be worth your while talking to them they are also cheaper then powerful 4x4's rear bar from memory

Good onya Bro!

I agree 100% with what you have stated mate!

Regards,

RLI

[hekarewe]

bundy dave thought i would throw up some pics of the new bar from milweld eng for you to see

[megatexture]

I like the jerry holders Adrian, I should have got one of the milweld bars but I can't complain I got my bumper replaced under insurance but you have done well mate looks great

[mick.]

But you design a trailer once, and test it once and your good...
These guys are designing, R & D'n, testing and producing up to 4 New, different bars, front or rear, a year...
Im with you that yes prices are a pit exy... But they fit. No if buts or maybys.. they bolt up and work...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

No thats not correct. We specialise in custom floats. Most of our floats are different from one to the next. The only thing the same is the widths. The lengths vary depending on how many horses, the axle positioning varies on the type of horses being towed weight etc, divider widths vary, divider heights vary, some have padding, some don't, some are telescopic and fully adjustable, window varies in sizes and postioning, floor height variations depending on alloy or hardwood, some have several cupboards, microwave, kitchen sinks, TVs, beds, roof racks, some have barn doors, some have tail gates, some have slide out ramps. We also set the draw bar towball weight to customers requirements be setting the axles up to suit. Not to mention the amount of prep work and sealling that goes into these floats prior to painting.

So you can see why I think these bars are a total rip off when we can build something with 20 times the amount of work and R&D for a little over double the price of a rear bar. $5000 is a total rip off any which way you look at it.

Cheers Mick.