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    4brhino - what type of rod holders mate? how did you have them positioned on the vehicle / bar? What was the context / wording of the ticket, ie what specific regulation, sub-regulation did they book you for?

    http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c7..._vehicles2.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    When fanging around suburbia...

    The ones that protrude over or in front of the Bullbar are illegal in WA (pretty sure that will be all states actually).

    The versions that sit behind the B'bar or ones like the model from BCF where the mount sits behind and the holder tubes and plate are removeable are OK (with the holders removed obviously)
    Thanks ET, I'll remember that when I'm in BCF next time.

    Apparently some cops hand out canaries like lollies for fishing rod holders.
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    Hi Dingo55... i have had a look but cannot find the ticket anymore.... kept it for ages but probably put it somewhere safe...lol...
    They were a standard Alloy four rod holder that bolts onto the bullbar via 2x u-bolt. They were on the left side of the bullbar and were in normal position when pulled over.....
    Not sure what regulation it falls under officially as i thought it was just an old rumour as well but as the cop stated - unless actually carrying rods then having them in normal position is illegal. I believe the reason is -as someone mentioned earlier in post - that it has to do with pedestrian safety. If hit with just the bullbar it will be a blunt force injury - but if rod holders are attached they have a sharp edge and are more likely to cause severe injury, (severe lacerations) even at low speed collisions. ... but thats just my theory..

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    Maybe it’s for pedestrian safety for in case someone walks into the front of your car and scratches them self..... cos if it’s from a patrol hitting a pedestrian there going to be road kill with or without the rod holder on.

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    Couldnt agree more , regulation gone mad

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    guys I have seen the after affects of rod holders on a person, his stomach was scooped out like it was a icecream scoop x 4, the guy walked infront of the vehicle, said vehicle was doing 20kph, the holder buried itself into his hip & gouged the bone badly, the guy nearly died on the pedestrian crossing, not from the broken leg, gouged pelvis or head bang but from his guts being ripped open & sliced to bits, a simple 20kph impact, it has nothing to do with over regulation & everything to do with commonsense, this is why it is a law, commonsense, just remember that, think of that person if it was a kid, you would be gouging 4 great big holes in his head at 20kph let alone 50kph, this is a serious issue, something as simple as turning it around or spending 2-3 minutes fitting it when you do use them is just to simple, to me its a no-brainer, this might be a bit heavy but a simple totally avoidable death is BIG, anyway its just my 2c worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morton View Post
    guys I have seen the after affects of rod holders on a person, his stomach was scooped out like it was a icecream scoop x 4, the guy walked infront of the vehicle, said vehicle was doing 20kph, the holder buried itself into his hip & gouged the bone badly, the guy nearly died on the pedestrian crossing, not from the broken leg, gouged pelvis or head bang but from his guts being ripped open & sliced to bits, a simple 20kph impact, it has nothing to do with over regulation & everything to do with commonsense, this is why it is a law, commonsense, just remember that, think of that person if it was a kid, you would be gouging 4 great big holes in his head at 20kph let alone 50kph, this is a serious issue, something as simple as turning it around or spending 2-3 minutes fitting it when you do use them is just to simple, to me its a no-brainer, this might be a bit heavy but a simple totally avoidable death is BIG, anyway its just my 2c worth
    That brings it somewhat into perspective really doesn't it. I used to travel around with holders on my old bar all the time and don't now just because they don't fit the tube bar ... I'm one of those people admittedly who sat on the side of the fence that it isn't that much of a drama, however I feel that view comes from never having heard of anyone being damaged by them, and as per others, thinking that if you get hit by a patrol, the rod holders are the least of your worries ... obviously I'm wrong - and happy to admit it.

    Yep, it's a pain putting them on and taking off (well, mine were anyway, as I had a heap of washers on it as the u bolt threads were too far up the bolt) but it appears the stories are real, and so to is the damage they can cause ...

    Again, I was mistaken in my thinking and appreciate hearing a first hand story (as horrific as that sounds because I feel for old mate that got hit) that has certainly impacted my thoughts on the topic ...

    Hope the bloke recovered well, and thanks for sharing the story to assist provocation of more thought on why the legislation is in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrig View Post
    There is a member on here (name removed to protect the innocent!! lol) who is a 'friendly' within the blue movement, and he was overly frustrated at a companion of his who proceeded to book a vehicle recently for having their UHF aerial on - visual obstruction or something was the ticket.
    I have had more 'near misses' with the A and B pilllars on my car, because of blind spots, than my HF and CB aerials mounted on the front of my bullbar.

    I think they've been made bigger to accommodate the airbags.
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    Thanks for posting Morton. That is exactly why the legislation is in place. People have to think about how they themselves impact on others instead of blaming the government for "taking away their rights".....
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    I hit a kid once as 10kph right in the head with my 4wd in Penrith, it would have been right in the spot rodholders would have sat, as it was a company vehicle at the time I was not allowed to fit anything to the front, spotties, antenna etc, I was very lucky, so was the kid, I s*** myself allday until the kids Dad rang me to say he was fine, the Dad actually apologised to be for his kid not thinking & walking in front of me as I was turning, I was a wreck for weeks after that, in the following weeks I was slamming on my brakes anytime someone walked near the kerb, I laugh about it now but my over reaction was just over the top, I am far better nowadays lol.

    FYI, apparently that other guy recovered well but will have medical issues for life, not sure what they are but that is what I heard, it wasn't the drivers fault, the guy walked infront of him

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