while we're at it we could debate who started the muslim vs christian, aussie vs kiwi, qld vs nsw, england vs theworld why americans are precieved as stupid they are the controversial issues as it's fact this is the best run site with great mods and friendly people regular meet ups good to see the avatars here have a face and aren't full of sh!t.
This site is the reason I bought a patrol I stalked the background of both sites and used both for reseach as the other forum always came up first doing google searches I read theirs first and though that's a lot of internet trolls over there came here and thought wow these blokes are fun friendly and helpful. Even the banter on here is pokong fun rather than internet trolling that's better left for youtube or something.
I have learnt plenty here had great fun both here and meet ups I constanty tell other 4x4 drivers I meet on my travels about this site and they always know about the other site but not this one so hope they have a look and stick around.
Just my 2 c but thanks to the creators mods and regulars who make this a great place to be happy motoring out there and welcome all the new members hope you like the atmosphere here and stick around