Here they go again

[Woof]

When are these desk jockey's going to stop trying to justify their jobs and leave us alone
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...=1156245087001

[growler2058]

I cant comment doggy without getting deleted or edited

[Maxhead]

Absolute bloody joke....thats all on here

[HippoNZ]

sounds like absolute bollocks for you guys. Here in NZ you can get most things you like with an engineer cert - no rubbing in intended. Hope you guys can fight this one off and keep the freedom to adventure your beautiful country side.

[Bigrig]

Blood .... boiling .... fists .... clenching .... must .... not ..... swear ..... profusely .... on .... forum .....

If the government continually seeks ways to stick their fist in my @rse, how about a small kiss on the cheek first to warm me up??!!!!

What's next?? No more than 75mm when love making to control unsafe sex practices?? Makes about as much sense as this pile of rubbish ...

I absolutely LOATHE these people for what they truly are - beaurocratic, hypocritic, ignorant, one eyed, self serving, bottom feeders with nothing better to do than take care of one, and only one, government policy - the "Protect My Own Job" policy ...

Glad all the drug dealers, pedophiles, arms traders, bank robbers, rapists, arsonists, thieves, money launderers, etc are all off the street to give these ludicrously pathetic individuals the time to look into ride heights of 4wd vehicles (that opened this country up by the way).

Lord, I could go on for hours ... as most of you know!!!! lmao

[taslucas]

Hey, i got this email from the team at 4wd Action.
I have just cut and pasted, i hope this isnt plagerism!


Australian 4WDers,
We are contacting you today as a matter of urgency, as you know newsletters generally don’t come out early on in the week however this one is extremely important and will ultimately affect every single 4WDer in Australia.

The biggest issue is that of vehicle ride height. Under VSI50, vehicles with a combined ride height more than 75mm above standard will only be eligible for ‘conditional registration’. The document isn’t clear on what this means, but you can be certain conditional registration will force you to justify why you ‘need’ to be driving your 4WD every single time you get behind the wheel. There is a way around this – VSI50 states that if you are a member of a Four Wheel Drive NSW & Act affiliated 4WD club, and have completed a driver training course, then you’ll be allowed full registration.

I thought compulsory unionism was dead in Australia. I thought this was a free country.

What we’re witnessing is un-reasonable and un-Australian.

While 4WD Action supports the great work 4WD clubs do and the many fantastic club members, VSI50 forces you to pay membership fees and join a 4WD club, simply so you can have full registration on your sensibly modified 4WD. What if you don’t want to be a member of a club? What if you can’t find a club to join? What if you’re stretched enough as it is and don’t want to pay anymore bills?

If VSI50 becomes official legislation, Four Wheel Drive NSW & ACT will have ultimate say over when and where you can drive your 4WD!



The second issue of concern with the revised VSI50 document, is a blanket ban of all tyre diameter increases of more than 50mm. That means generally speaking, anything larger than a 31in tyre on a dual-cab ute, or a 33in tyre on a full-sized wagon, will be absolutely illegal.

There’ll be no option to ever have a bigger set of tyres put through engineering tests to be deemed safe. VSB14, which is the guideline document VSI50 has been created from talks about a maximum headlight lift of 150mm over standard. We believe that’s fair – what we don’t support is the fact that the proposed VSI50 plan limits the way in which you’re allowed to achieve that 6in headlight height raise.
END QUOTE

[Bigrig]

That's an interesting point. Does anybody know if these proposals will also ban engineered solutions? My opinion is that there needs to be a line drawn in the sand at some point to ensure a "reasonable" level of safety of vehicles sharing our roads. If engineered solutions are still acceptible under this proposal then I personally don't see a huge issue with it. A 4by with 2in lift and 33's will still go most places when combined with driver skill. And where 33's cant go is often due to sections cut up with 37's and/or unskilled drivers using grunt over technique. Level playing field and everyone can have their fun.

Hmmm .... agree on the engineering cert part, but would have to disagree on the 2" with 33" tyres and driver ability means you go most places that haven't been chewed out by 37's etc - I hear and believe I understand what you're getting at Plassy, but there are plenty of places to go that are insanely difficult to get through that has nothing to do with rigs wearing 37's ...

Personally I take my previous stance on it - at the end of the day, the government wants money, veiled by so called policy regarding public safety, but the long and short of it is money ... I'd happily pay to have a fully legislated system of modification that requires engineering certification for mods over what's being touted. I'm all for safe driving and sustainable 4wd practices, but telling me Tank is now illegal and putting me off the road until thousands of dollars go into converting it back??? Not on my life!!!! No way, no how, not happening ... get rid of all the black smoke blowing, rusted buckets of garbage (old commo's, fords, dump trucks, trailers, etc) on the road that would struggle at best to pass a roadworthy, and only then start picking away at the after market gear on my rig which is markedly superior in just about every way (strength, performance, longevity, design, etc) than original equipment.

Cigarettes kill more people every week than serious crash related 4wd accidents, and even with the arbitrary measures that have been out in place, millions continue to smoke - and the reason the government doesn't illegalise smoking (like it's suggesting for 35" tyres as an example)?? Go on .... you know the answer ...

Money!!

[Maxhead]

Here's the new VSi50 Draft

The second last page has some info on examptions

[taslucas]

[QUOTE=Bigrig;141929
Cigarettes kill more people every week than serious crash related 4wd accidents, and even with the arbitrary measures that have been out in place, millions continue to smoke - and the reason the government doesn't illegalise smoking (like it's suggesting for 35" tyres as an example)?? Go on .... you know the answer ...

Money!![/QUOTE]

The biggest killer of young men in australia is suicide!
Bugger all money being put into that.
(slightly off track, i know)

[NissanGQ4.2]

Don't think I want 2 read your link Wayne, from what my old neighbor said about a year ago when they first tried 2 introduce this crap . If your 4b was already engineered for what you have before the new laws come in there is nothing they can do about it. And I'm pretty sure he said once the laws come in, that's it. Even if you were 2 get it engineered it wasn't going 2 pass for rego, but don't quote me on it. Might have 2 call past my old neighbor and see if he still works for them.

He even said to me the new regs were stupid and that they had no proof that a modified vehicle was any more dangerous than a standard height 4b or any other car for that fact.

Enough said on this topic, before i get banned 4 life *L*