before Timbar came along i was knowen as Madman Max because i am hard offroad on these vehicles and challenge me and i would just do it i have calmed down over the years now I had a Landcrab and i snapped both chasis rails on it in one days trip flying over sand dunes i was told by a guy that this particular dune that i flew so high that hecould have parked his 4by with a 5inch lift at the top and he could have stood on the roof with his hnds in the air ...he is 6'10 and i would have missed him by a mile so i think thats a bit too extreme for a GU and i still drove home 165kms in it hahahaha