Legal Lift Height

[Silver]

last time I checked - at the beginning of the year - I could take my long arms to NSW, and mate is bringing his today from Vic, without any additional paper work.

Not sure about handguns as don't have any.

yeah, uniformity would be good I guess - two levels of gov not three - but do we really want Bob Brown running the whole country??? :-)

[the evil twin]

Just to complete the hijack hahaha Loveday has time keepin on the race and drag tracks who needs the stig hahahahahhahahah

There goes your Insurance even if you are bog standard off the Showroom floor unless you have a Motor Sport Policy. (not bagging it just saying is all).

ADR's are law across all states it is the continual toing and froing of a NCOP for modifications that causes all the confusion. It will probably always be that way because Australia is a geographically diverse Commonwealth and not a single Entity so what is desireable mod in one 'area', say Tassie can be detrimental in another say, W.A.
Bottom line of that is that most of that legislation is to protect the 99% from the 1%

I have no problem with 33's and 2 inch lift as a maximum and, yes, as it stands that is marginally on the side of illegal in most instrumentalities but mermaids and coppers don't care too much over a few mm's unless you want to carry on like an rrse.

35's and 4 inch or more I do have a problem with in the general sense. I should add at this point my prev truck was those specs so feel I have at least some balance on the perspective.
Many of the problems aren't out in the Scrub it is on the public highways and byways. The road infrastructure, traffic laws, advisory's etc are not designed or constructed for Trucks modified to that extent or more and Joe Public doesn't know or chooses to ignore that a truck with 35'or 37's is harder and takes longer to stop than a bog truck.
Now, I am not about to get into any argument over brakeing efforts versus torque moments versus biasing changes versus vehicle stability etc etc
Bottom line of that is the legislation is to protect the 1% from the 99%

One thing I do agree with is tell your Insurer EVERYTHING you have, added/mod'd on your truck. If they won't insure you initially then you can be assured that they will be 100% guaranteed to drop you like a snotty rag if you don't tell them and then have a major claim... so why give them your money for nothing.
Bottom line find an Insurer who will accept your "risk" . I have had no issues with getting highly modified trucks accepted by TCIS (I believe Shannons and 1 or 2 others are good as well) and the only common exemption across all the Insurers I canvassed is 'no coverage if you are participating in any form of timed events'.

[Woof]

There goes your Insurance even if you are bog standard off the Showroom floor unless you have a Motor Sport Policy. (not bagging it just saying is all).

ADR's are law across all states it is the continual toing and froing of a NCOP for modifications that causes all the confusion. It will probably always be that way because Australia is a geographically diverse Commonwealth and not a single Entity so what is desireable mod in one 'area', say Tassie can be detrimental in another say, W.A.
Bottom line of that is that most of that legislation is to protect the 99% from the 1%

I have no problem with 33's and 2 inch lift as a maximum and, yes, as it stands that is marginally on the side of illegal in most instrumentalities but mermaids and coppers don't care too much over a few mm's unless you want to carry on like an rrse.

35's and 4 inch or more I do have a problem with in the general sense. I should add at this point my prev truck was those specs so feel I have at least some balance on the perspective.
Many of the problems aren't out in the Scrub it is on the public highways and byways. The road infrastructure, traffic laws, advisory's etc are not designed or constructed for Trucks modified to that extent or more and Joe Public doesn't know or chooses to ignore that a truck with 35'or 37's is harder and takes longer to stop than a bog truck.
Now, I am not about to get into any argument over brakeing efforts versus torque moments versus biasing changes versus vehicle stability etc etc
Bottom line of that is the legislation is to protect the 1% from the 99%

One thing I do agree with is tell your Insurer EVERYTHING you have, added/mod'd on your truck. If they won't insure you initially then you can be assured that they will be 100% guaranteed to drop you like a snotty rag if you don't tell them and then have a major claim... so why give them your money for nothing.
Bottom line find an Insurer who will accept your "risk" . I have had no issues with getting highly modified trucks accepted by TCIS (I believe Shannons and 1 or 2 others are good as well) and the only common exemption across all the Insurers I canvassed is 'no coverage if you are participating in any form of timed events'.

As ET said, as I have his Q and he has my U (I up graded), as soon as I told my insurance company about the 4" lift and 35's they dumped me very quick, I can understand their concerns as it is illegal here is WA to run anything over 33's and a 50mm suspension/body lift.
There are a few companies in Australia that will insure mods to this extent but 35's and 4" lift is the maximum they will insure, the insurance issue was discussed a while ago, started by Kat...... here is the link http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...-Car-Insurance we made it sticky in case this issue was raised again.
As for timed events, ET is correct as usual, participating in any off road events will void your insurance quicker than you can say " tree, look out".

[nowoolies]

last time I checked - at the beginning of the year - I could take my long arms to NSW, and mate is bringing his today from Vic, without any additional paper work.

Not sure about handguns as don't have any.

yeah, uniformity would be good I guess - two levels of gov not three - but do we really want Bob Brown running the whole country??? :-)

first target hahahahahahahaha.....BOOM!!!!!!

[growler2058]

As ET said, as I have his Q and he has my U (I up graded), as soon as I told my insurance company about the 4" lift and 35's they dumped me very quick, I can understand their concerns as it is illegal here is WA to run anything over 33's and a 50mm suspension/body lift.
There are a few companies in Australia that will insure mods to this extent but 35's and 4" lift is the maximum they will insure, the insurance issue was discussed a while ago, started by Kat...... here is the link http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...-Car-Insurance we made it sticky in case this issue was raised again.
As for timed events, ET is correct as usual, participating in any off road events will void your insurance quicker than you can say " tree, look out".

Don't tell them!! The dirt road on the way in is extremely treacherous if ya know what I mean! Notice how the insurance companies failed to tell queenslanders about flood insurance

[patrolrulz]

Hey guys The Qld transport have just changed the rules last month apparently GQ's r not legal with 33inch tyres the max allowed is 31inch not sure where this has bin documented git it from a reliable source go the Tax revenue collectors who drive Transport & Police Cars this whole situation is bullsh?t

If u smoke illegal drugs & get caught your fault but if u buy Legally a Suspension Mod or large tyres & fit them u r going 2 contribute 2 the Government Tax Collections.

I ? why is it legal 4 suspension & tyre shops 2 sell stuff but its Illegal to use the same????

& Then we have the Insurance Cos who r happy 2 wipe your cover if u r in an accident but very happy 2 take your money I know this has bin said b4 but it SH?TS me

[Irvs]

No vehicle is allowed to go bigger than 25mm in height than original wheels in most states, so if your car came stock with 29.7inch wheels, like mine, you can't run anything bigger than 31.7inches for road legal purposes. That's why I have two sets of tyres. Set for mud and a set for road

[Irvs]

Also it's legal for them to sell bigger tyres because some vehicles come with bigger tyres stock, they're not responsible for keeping your car road legal although morally they should inform you if it may void your insurance.

[Rustyboner81]

the spill i was given was that if you t-bone some one on the road with all that lift and the tyres, your winch bar is coming through there window at head level.
i can see the point, most trucks still have the bumber or roo bar down low but its still a pain.

[Irvs]

I can't really put any merit in that rusty because if the authorities take that tack doesn't that group trucks into that category anyway? I saw a Ford F650 (Google Image it, gigantic) with rego near my place and that thing is the size of a removalist truck, how is that thing more road legal than a GQ with 6 inch suspension lift and 4 inch body ( I realise this is ridiculous, I'm being dramatic) because I'd still rather be hit by the GQ.

I can understand there has to be a point when they draw a line in the sand and say we deem this to be too big but 2 inch total body or suspension lift and 1 inch on tyres without spending money hand over fist on the engineering is a pain in the arse.

Would be good if we could have 4 inch lift and 2 inches on tyres. Would make most peoples fourbies road legal too.