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9th July 2019, 07:00 PM
#11
Daily Lurker
Originally Posted by
the evil twin
It's a national requirement AFAIK... to do with pollution regs IE you can't put an older dirtier motor in a Vehicle that originally met the anti-pol regs at time of manufacture... unless the engine passes the emmissions testing for the vehicle MY.
Could be wrong but thats the gist of it IIRC.
That's basically what I understand too mate, the car needs to meet the pollution reqs of the newer motor, really easy, car doesn't produce emission, or the older motor to meet newer car emission. That would be impossible!
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9th July 2019 07:00 PM
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10th July 2019, 01:03 AM
#12
Patrol Guru
My understanding of the requirements is that if the engine and vehicle are manufactured after 1987.. as long as you have all the standard emission controls in place you're good to go. It will only become an issue if you cross over the major adr revision dates.. ie.1972-76, 1976-86, 1986 to present day.
So.. you can't put a "leaded" engine in a post '86 car but you could put an ls in pretty well anything built after '86. You just need to have the cats and such installed.
Edit: Actually on those rules you could put an ls in pretty much anything. A motor that complies with current adr's (anything built after '86) could be an option for any vehicle. There's obviously other requirements you need to comply with, but my point is "the engine must be newer than the car" is a bit general and not necessarily correct.
Edit: Edit: Didn't mean to sound like a d*ck about it haha.. just how I understand the rules.
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10th July 2019, 06:20 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by
0-TJ-0
My understanding of the requirements is that if the engine and vehicle are manufactured after 1987.. as long as you have all the standard emission controls in place you're good to go. It will only become an issue if you cross over the major adr revision dates.. ie.1972-76, 1976-86, 1986 to present day.
So.. you can't put a "leaded" engine in a post '86 car but you could put an ls in pretty well anything built after '86. You just need to have the cats and such installed.
Edit: Actually on those rules you could put an ls in pretty much anything. A motor that complies with current adr's (anything built after '86) could be an option for any vehicle. There's obviously other requirements you need to comply with, but my point is "the engine must be newer than the car" is a bit general and not necessarily correct.
Edit: Edit: Didn't mean to sound like a d*ck about it haha.. just how I understand the rules.
Yeah I get that mate, the simple way I put it it just how my engineer said it to me. May be different elsewhere who knows
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10th July 2019, 08:44 AM
#14
The 747
A friend of mine specialises in LS conversions and does a lot of patrols. He just told me that very soon he will have to get emissions tests done on every conversion to be able to get them engineered. $1200 per test whether it passes or fails, if it fails you have to fix the issue and then pay the $1200 to be retested.
He is doing a GU at the moment and is rushing to get it finished so he can get it engineered before this new regulation comes in.
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10th July 2019, 10:44 AM
#15
Patrol Guru
I would believe that. There's a lot of public pressure now for lower emission everything so we're probably about due for tighter regulations. Soon your engine conversions will probably only be practical for club members with a special reg rather than your everyday drivers.
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10th July 2019, 02:56 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
Winnie
A friend of mine specialises in LS conversions and does a lot of patrols. He just told me that very soon he will have to get emissions tests done on every conversion to be able to get them engineered. $1200 per test whether it passes or fails, if it fails you have to fix the issue and then pay the $1200 to be retested.
He is doing a GU at the moment and is rushing to get it finished so he can get it engineered before this new regulation comes in.
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Are you able to reveal who this specialist is? I'm chasing up on competent conversion guys.
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10th July 2019, 04:45 PM
#17
The 747
Originally Posted by
poindexter
Are you able to reveal who this specialist is? I'm chasing up on competent conversion guys.
He probably would not want me spruking his name as it is a side business and he cannot keep up with it as it is...
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10th July 2019, 08:29 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by
Winnie
He probably would not want me spruking his name as it is a side business and he cannot keep up with it as it is...
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That sucks, might be the end of the ls conversion trip for me? My plan was to do it in the next 12 months, I cant do it any sooner =(
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10th July 2019, 10:54 PM
#19
Patrol God
Originally Posted by
rusty_nail
That sucks, might be the end of the ls conversion trip for me? My plan was to do it in the next 12 months, I cant do it any sooner =(
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I hope not,I've been a little excited n made me want also
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12th July 2019, 10:22 PM
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Simple practice Gents!
Complete lazy mechanical and electrical nuffy me now. Buy an already legally converted/numbered beast that needs fixing if you’re wishing.
Learn how to modify cooling/toughen what the last big coin bloke got wrong.
Have fun for some years and get aboard the unfortunate Euro emissions crud coming to an island continent soon :-(
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