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Thread: The safest cleaning solvent for alternator interior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bye4 View Post
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    Yes, the OP(which is me) was asking about the best way to clean a gunk filled alternator interior. That's been sorted.
    We took it on a different direction, but it's a very good discussion. Lets keep it going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
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    Yes, but for a good cause, I reckon. We've already dealt with the alternator cleaning techniques.
    Lets keep it going at current direction.
    We're learning a lot from the conversation here.
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    Only kidding around Dom. Interesting stuff coming up here - my head is totaly blown because I thought I knew this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    My understanding is it will pull whatever it can from the alternator, and if it needs more it will take it from the battery.
    May be not. Alternator doesn't produce anywhere near as much as amps a battery would in a given short time frame.
    So, it's logical to say the most of the current the winch would use comes form the cranking battery.
    Winching loves CCAs.. One guy used that phrase in a thread while ago.
    Lets debate and sort out whether that high amp draw from winch would affect the alternator charge wire capacity and whether it would blow the fuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bye4 View Post
    Only kidding around Dom. Interesting stuff coming up here - my head is totaly blown because I thought I knew this stuff.
    You do. You're helping by writing whatever you think, whether it's a fact or conjecture.
    I've been learning from everybody here, (including myself. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by dom14 View Post
    May be not. Alternator doesn't produce anywhere near as much as amps a battery would in a given short time frame.
    So, it's logical to say the most of the current the winch would use comes form the cranking battery.
    Winching loves CCAs.. One guy used that phrase in a thread while ago.
    Lets debate and sort out whether that high amp draw from winch would affect the alternator charge wire capacity and whether it would blow the fuse.
    I would like to argue that it won't. After taking what it(winch) can from the alternator, it would switch to the battery and draw the amps from there.
    Only scenario I can think of alternator charge cable fuse blowing is that when the charge cable is way too low ampacity rated than the highest alternator output(lets say 60 amp wire & fuse for a 120 amp alternator).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dom14 View Post
    I would like to argue that it won't. After taking what it(winch) can from the alternator, it would switch to the battery and draw the amps from there.
    Only scenario I can think of alternator charge cable fuse blowing is that when the charge cable is way too low ampacity rated than the highest alternator output(lets say 60 amp wire & fuse for a 120 amp alternator).
    Yeah, I'd agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom14 View Post
    Yes, it's pretty valid question.
    I thought we are upgrading the alternator to compensate for all the extra components+appliances we add to the vehicle electrical system, but didn't think we need a super thick(1 cm and above) alternator charge cable to compensate for the extra amps. One of the reasons for my argument was that no stock high amp alternators come equipped with such thick wires from what I've seen so far.

    For example, EF-EL Falcon alternator that I used for the upgrade came from the Ford EF-EL. But, is the charge cable of that car as thick as the one we are trying to use in
    Patrol??!! I tend to think that's not the case.
    If you are right, then we have to argue EF-EL Falcons come equipped with an alternator which is an overkill for the car's electrical demands.

    But, I agree, winching can produce a totally different scenario, and it may be correct that a thicker higher ampacity charge wire can come handy in such situations(as well as higher amp fuse).
    Another thing that just came to my mind regarding the pretty valid question from the Evil Twin above is that a dual battery system may also demand a higher amp alternator to charge both batteries in good time.

    I've been told that most dual battery systems out there actually isolates the cranking battery from getting drained accidentally
    while using the aux battery for power needs. But, it doesn't isolate the main battery & aux battery during charging.


    in other words in so called battery isolator doesn't prioritize the main battery charging before it switches to the aux battery. In other words both batteries get charged pretty much as the same rate, which means extra amps are drawn from the alternator, which may necessitate the higher amp capable charge cable+fuse from the alternator to the main battery.
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    I must do something wrong ! I run a fridge (old engel ) charge phones , dvd players for the kids , charge the van battery , run lights and shower pump , 1oo amp alt cheap projector vsr , 90 amp deep cycle as a second battery and same in the van hooked up via anderson plug when towing , and can sit for to 4 days with out even getting close to killing batteries , and get around 5- 7 years battery life , i do plug into a cetec charger at home to keep them conditioned , no solar ,

    Should add usually go for a drive most days for maybe 1hr all up ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaddy View Post
    I must do something wrong ! I run a fridge (old engel ) charge phones , dvd players for the kids , charge the van battery , run lights and shower pump , 1oo amp alt cheap projector vsr , 90 amp deep cycle as a second battery and same in the van hooked up via anderson plug when towing , and can sit for to 4 days with out even getting close to killing batteries , and get around 5- 7 years battery life , i do plug into a cetec charger at home to keep them conditioned , no solar ,

    Should add usually go for a drive most days for maybe 1hr all up ,

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    You have two auxiliary batteries.
    What do you use the batteries for while sitting for four days.
    Are the appliances 12V or are you using an inverter for all of them?
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