OUR VIDEOS GALLERY MEMBER SPONSORSHIP VENDOR SPONSORSHIP

User Tag List

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 23

Thread: well im confused now - to nads or not to nads, that is the question ....

  1. #11
    I am he, fear me the evil twin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    W.A. (wandering aust)
    Posts
    6,208
    Thanks
    904
    Thanked 6,641 Times in 3,288 Posts
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Agree... ^^^^
    If you block EGR with a 2 3/4 or 3 inch exhaust then you will need to tweak the VNT or fit a Dawes.

    I fit EGT not for limiting but so that I can monitor what any mods or adjustments are actually doing IE did I get a real world change or is it just a placebo/imagination.
    Mine was chipped, tweaked, blocked and had exhaust and I/C mods because as I mentioned I tinker A LOT but for just a few standard mods I agree with R.T. in that it is not a big need.
    Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them fish.

  2. #12
    Patrol Guru Rock Trol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    NE Melbourne
    Posts
    784
    Thanks
    240
    Thanked 321 Times in 253 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    Agree... ^^^^
    If you block EGR with a 2 3/4 or 3 inch exhaust then you will need to tweak the VNT or fit a Dawes.
    Thinking on it its probably good to get a dawes valve if you block the EGR as the ECU drops the boost when it opens the EGR valve. This is to allow the exhaust gas to enter otherwise the higher boost in the intake manifold will leak into the exhaust. Since its blocked it will be beneficial to take control away from the ECU.
    2007 DX CRD Wagon - EFS 2" lift, BOSS Chassis Brace Kit, Steel Bull Bar, Runva 9500-Q winch, FyrLyt's, Rock Sliders, Rear bar with wheel and twin jerry carriers, Drawers, Fridge slide, dual battery, Red Arc BCDC 1220, Red Arc EGT/Boost gauge, Scangauge, Uniden UHF, Prodigy P2 brake controller, CC Intercooler, Pacemaker 3" zhaust, HPD Dawes, ECU Remap.

  3. #13
    Advanced jack180's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Senic Rim QLD
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    well i decided to bit the bullet - fitter the Boost and EGT gauges, catch can , new inter cooler, blocker the EGR, and a Inter cooler fan

    Results - running 100 deg lower at 110kmh
    Boost maxing out at 18 PSI, but spooling up earlier - feels better to drive (not dawes or boost control fitted)

    And i was very shocked at how much oil was in the old inter cooler and pipework before i fitter the new one.

    here's the pics ....






    \





    Current - 2011 GUVII 3.0 CRD
    Previous - 2004 GUIV 3.0DI "The Grenade" Literally ...
    100 LC V8, 150 D4 Prado, 200 Series V8D .... and a Discovery D2V8 in between ... what was i thinking?

  4. #14
    The master farter mudski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Eltham North
    Posts
    15,798
    Thanks
    8,846
    Thanked 11,542 Times in 6,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    475 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by the evil twin View Post
    My CRD had 150,000 odd K's when I sold it... It also had full instrumentation and I love to tinker and experiment
    First thing to get is a Scangauge or equivalent and an EGT gauge that way you know within about 10 degrees and 1/10th of a litre per 100 K's what is happening
    Next, Anti-grenading is not req'd so mods are for performance only.
    I/C fan, makes a difference on a stock I/C up to about 50 KPH... after that useless (works best as a puller)... took mine off after I stopped dicking around on sand etc
    Chip and exhaust give measurable extra power
    EGR block - block it fully and use the Scangauge to clear any codes... if you block EGR you may need to adjust the VNT
    CRD's run hotter, boost higher and love to rev so get used to giving them a bit of welly to get up to cruise on the bitumen then back off.
    Dawes? well, I went as far as buying one but sold it as my truck went gangbusters without one

    Bottom line is they drive different to the Di's so just sit back and enjoy the fun
    This is so true. I read and speak with so many people and they say you don't need the NAD's, particularly the dawes and needle valve on a CRD. They are 100% right. But if you want you car to go even better why wouldn't you. As for over boosting. Not to worry, its not the overboosting that kills the lil'3ltrs, its underboosting. thanks to the marvelous effort of the ECU especially in the Di's. under boosting ='s too much fuel and not enough air which ='s extremely high cylinder temps which ='s melting pistons and cracked heads.
    The CRD's are o.k with the ECU though, so no worry there.

  5. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mudski For This Useful Post:

    jack180 (8th October 2015), the evil twin (8th October 2015)

  6. #15
    Expert Ibbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Mt Barker, SA
    Posts
    112
    Thanks
    100
    Thanked 113 Times in 50 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks for all the useful information in this thread.
    I have a 2010 CRD and had been experiencing a similar dilemma to jack180. I have bought the scangauge which i have found very useful. No mods and boost rarely gets over 15psi - this seems to be the roof where the ECU cuts it out. I have not been using the water temp gauge function but sounds like i probably should.
    I have just ordered a safari snorkel for it to make sure i have clean air going in. I was planning on getting a 3 in exhaust next but sounds like i maybe should get the dawes and needle valve at the same time (and probably do the EGR block while i'm at it)?
    I would be confident tackling the exhaust and EGR block myself but sounds like the dawes and needle valve is something that should be fitted and adjusted by someone far more mechanically minded than myself. So might need to wait and do some more saving

  7. #16
    The master farter mudski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Eltham North
    Posts
    15,798
    Thanks
    8,846
    Thanked 11,542 Times in 6,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    475 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    If you buy a pipe, there is a good chance you will see limp mode, which is an overboost safety function. So if you can stretch it, get the dawes and needle valve at the same time. And block the egr too....

    Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to mudski For This Useful Post:

    Ibbo (19th October 2015)

  9. #17
    Advanced jack180's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Senic Rim QLD
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well a bit of an update.
    After a few weeks of driving im pretty happy with the results. I did modify my catch can and made a baffle inside it. Its catching oil well now.
    With the EGR blocked, new IC and IC fan I'm seeing lower EGTs - especially at highway speed.
    I'm sticking with the standard exhaust, therefore im not going to install a dawes.
    Ive been toying with fitting a snorkel. - I like the peace of mind for water crossings (not that i do that many), but I've hear a lot of horror stories about the CRDs using a lot more fuel once the snorkel is fitted.
    I'm guessing the MAF gets a bit tricked and changes the fuel input?
    Anyone else experience this?
    Ive got 2 mates than have fitted snorkels to the CRD, and both went from about 11-12L/100 - to 15 to 18L/100
    I'm not keen on that.
    Current - 2011 GUVII 3.0 CRD
    Previous - 2004 GUIV 3.0DI "The Grenade" Literally ...
    100 LC V8, 150 D4 Prado, 200 Series V8D .... and a Discovery D2V8 in between ... what was i thinking?

  10. #18
    Expert Ibbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Mt Barker, SA
    Posts
    112
    Thanks
    100
    Thanked 113 Times in 50 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mudski View Post
    If you buy a pipe, there is a good chance you will see limp mode, which is an overboost safety function. So if you can stretch it, get the dawes and needle valve at the same time. And block the egr too....

    Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk
    Yeah i have just been looking on your ebay store actually and looks like i could have a go at the dawes and needle valve and EGR block myself for a reasonable price. I did get lost on the extra fittings required to get the boost to the dawes valve. Might just PM you to find out what i need.

  11. #19
    Expert Ibbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Mt Barker, SA
    Posts
    112
    Thanks
    100
    Thanked 113 Times in 50 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jack180 View Post
    Well a bit of an update.
    After a few weeks of driving im pretty happy with the results. I did modify my catch can and made a baffle inside it. Its catching oil well now.
    With the EGR blocked, new IC and IC fan I'm seeing lower EGTs - especially at highway speed.
    I'm sticking with the standard exhaust, therefore im not going to install a dawes.
    Ive been toying with fitting a snorkel. - I like the peace of mind for water crossings (not that i do that many), but I've hear a lot of horror stories about the CRDs using a lot more fuel once the snorkel is fitted.
    I'm guessing the MAF gets a bit tricked and changes the fuel input?
    Anyone else experience this?
    Ive got 2 mates than have fitted snorkels to the CRD, and both went from about 11-12L/100 - to 15 to 18L/100
    I'm not keen on that.
    No that doesn't sound great - will let you know what happens with mine when i get it fitted next week. sounds like computer might need some tweaking if that is the case.

  12. #20
    The master farter mudski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Eltham North
    Posts
    15,798
    Thanks
    8,846
    Thanked 11,542 Times in 6,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    475 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jack180 View Post
    Well a bit of an update.
    After a few weeks of driving im pretty happy with the results. I did modify my catch can and made a baffle inside it. Its catching oil well now.
    With the EGR blocked, new IC and IC fan I'm seeing lower EGTs - especially at highway speed.
    I'm sticking with the standard exhaust, therefore im not going to install a dawes.
    Ive been toying with fitting a snorkel. - I like the peace of mind for water crossings (not that i do that many), but I've hear a lot of horror stories about the CRDs using a lot more fuel once the snorkel is fitted.
    I'm guessing the MAF gets a bit tricked and changes the fuel input?
    Anyone else experience this?
    Ive got 2 mates than have fitted snorkels to the CRD, and both went from about 11-12L/100 - to 15 to 18L/100
    I'm not keen on that.
    I find that rather odd. I would dare to say their cars run better due to the extra air flow so they might be a bit heavier on the right foot now having that little extra oomf! Having said that have they got a boost gauge or the NAD's fitted? I know that if you have a boost gauge and no NAD's you will see your boost levels fluctuating a fair bit, which will affect fuel eco. Running the NADs will even out the boost fluctuations, make the engine far more responsive and better on fuel. But then you just drive it harder again... :0

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •