Its swag time

[MudRunnerTD]

Which is exactly the bunker without the fly over it. Perfect in warmer times/areas...

These look like a good bit of kit!! Have you got a pic of one packed and bagged??

[Rock Trol]

Have you thought of a 3 second tent like the speedy? Very quick. Can throw in mattress and sleeping bag.
More room than a swag and easier to dress/undress inside. I use a 3 man model as I am 6'4" and I can stretch right out. Lots of room for bag and clothes etc. Flat pack but 70cm diameter. Only 3kg in weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJ_0GMK_ZU

Or maybe an Oztent RV1? Pricey but its kind of swag size and has that huge awning. Would be quick to set up.

[MudRunnerTD]

To be honest I scored a turbo pop up tent a couple of years ago before our last big show trip and I have to say that it sets up in 8 seconds and packs up in under a minute without pegging down and the swag rolls out or the air bed rolls out in it easily. It packs flat in the car and takes up less room and will likely become my preferred setup. Dunno??

Still giving a bit of thought of going back to the single swag and using the camp stretcher which I have never done before????

Have you thought of a 3 second tent like the speedy? Very quick. Can throw in mattress and sleeping bag.
More room than a swag and easier to dress/undress inside. I use a 3 man model as I am 6'4" and I can stretch right out. Lots of room for bag and clothes etc. Flat pack but 70cm diameter. Only 3kg in weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJ_0GMK_ZU

Or maybe an Oztent RV1? Pricey but its kind of swag size and has that huge awning. Would be quick to set up.

Yeah that is the same as the tent I have now. I like it allot!!!!!!!!

[FNQGU]

I've been using swags since I was about 15 and I am sure we would all agree that swags ain't swags... A swag off the back of a trail bike isn't going to be anything like a swag used from the truck all the time. Look for features that you want and features that piss you off. Canvas quality is paramount and then when sleeping on the ground all the time, mattresses are the next big gripe. Most of the time we tend to find ourselves with a thicker mattress to compensate. Then it gets bulky...and heavier.

I previously also did not want tent poles and I wanted to be able to lay the swag out flat if I had to sleep in it indoors (like in the dog house!) without any canvas over the top. Not all swags will set up inside a house, or on a concrete floor, without pegs, poles etc. and a lot of my working time would mean regular indoor swagging at remote sites.

I also ended up packing a lightweight one man hiking tent for those occasions when either the mozzies were terrible, or the weather was terrible and it was going to rain. Not ideal either.

For me, the only real benefit of a swag these days is that your bedding can remain in the swag and it can be reasonably easily rolled out late at night (or when drunk). The downsides are many, and some swags are now HUGE and pack up time is a terrible fight.

Swags are only good for camping from a vehicle right? They are not something you hike ten k's into the scrub. That generally means throwing it on the roof rack and all is good. Now I am finding that I am trying to reduce weight and bulk and roof profile to save on fuel. My 'swagging' needs also started to move towards the point where I now find I want more comfort, but am not yet ready to 'retire' to a camper trailer....:-)

In that regard, I just went for the Jet Tent Bunker as well, and so far I am hugely impressed with it, other than the weight. It isn't light, but it packs up just a bit larger than a camp chair. I now normally throw a Thermarest in it, but it is also decent without anything added. I got the standard size (as opposed to the XL) and find it to be plenty wide and long. I am 6' and 95kg, and it serves me easily.

I still have my swag, which had all of the original features that I wanted and was top quality, but have not used it since. I also still have the little one man hiking tent for when I am really trying to save on space and weight, but in general, the Jet Tent is currently the 'do all' solution for what I do.

My future may however involve a light weight or scaled down to simple T-van, for the big trips.

My 2 cents...

[Cuppa]

This sometimes doesn't cut it no matter how dry it is? Not having a dig Cuppa, but just saying, winter, in the high country for example, you will need all the warmth you can get, including maybe a cozy swag. Just for warmth purposes.

Fair enough if you must swag it during winter (I don’t any more - it’s an age thing I guess). In that respect my Saul swag is probably one of the warmest available because of it’s double layer of canvas on top. One of it’s major advantages is that it is warm enough without the need for a sleeping bag, but easy to use to keep cool when it’s hot. I have a wool blanket inside mine which I’ve wrapped around me when it’s been frosty/icy, but mostly it just sits on the mattress giving a bit of extra comfort. Have never used a sleeping bag inside it, & despite what I said previously it is preferable to a sleeping bag because it’s less restrictive but it is a lot bulkier than a sleeping bag though. The swags with hoops, poles, zips etc & designs like the Jet tent bunker are imho essentially small tents but without the advantage of space to store clothes, boots etc & with greater difficulty in getting dressed. Just expressing an opinion, not commenting upon other folk’s choices.

A good ’traditional’ swag (ie. a ‘pocket’ or ‘bedroll’) either inside a tent or under an awning/tarp makes sense for winter use as it is likely to be a warmer option than just a sleeping bag or a dome type swag, but the thought of heading out on a winter’s mountain trip with the aim of using a swag without some form of additional cover , to me, well, feels like pure masochism.

EDIT - And further to what FNQGU said, a swag is a great option for parties & the like when staying over at places where a living room or shed floor is the accomodation option ..... & provides a comfy seat during the ‘festivities’. It’s that long since I used mine I’d forgotten that particular advantage.

[Bacho86]

Have you thought of a 3 second tent like the speedy? Very quick. Can throw in mattress and sleeping bag.
More room than a swag and easier to dress/undress inside. I use a 3 man model as I am 6'4" and I can stretch right out. Lots of room for bag and clothes etc. Flat pack but 70cm diameter. Only 3kg in weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJ_0GMK_ZU

Or maybe an Oztent RV1? Pricey but its kind of swag size and has that huge awning. Would be quick to set up.

X 2 on the pop up tent. I recently was just going through the same process. I wanted a smaller tent / swag for boys trips, but also something big enough that one of the kids could jump in.

Ended up buying a 3 man tent (which is really only just big enough for 2 mattresses), off eBay for $110 and it had only been used once. They are really easy to set up and pack up. Very happy with it so far




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[FNQGU]

For reference to size, here is the Jet Tent packed up (in the black bag) and compared to an Oz Tent chair and the MaxTrax.





I'm not convinced that the cover will withstand a lot of trips on the roof rack, but so far so good.

[Softy]

What is the damage for a Jet Tent? for that sort of set up the pack up size is pretty good!

[Hodge]

What is the damage for a Jet Tent? for that sort of set up the pack up size is pretty good!

This is the cheapest I have found.

https://www.snowys.com.au/products.aspx?key=bunker

[MEGOMONSTER]

This is the cheapest I have found.

https://www.snowys.com.au/products.aspx?key=bunker

I have purchased so much camping gears and accessories from Snowy's.
Really cheap on nearly all items.