Winch drum getting hot just winding rope in and out

[mudski]

Wheel bearing grease I used is lithium complex. So it has the same properties as lmm but its waterproof. Both are extreme pressure greases, which is whats needed, but is tackier than lmm which may be the drawback in using such greasr in this situation.

[MudRunnerTD]

Why are you guys using LMM grease out of curiosity ??? That grease is usually used in ball joints,cv's/ uni's or areas that are slow moving and are under an extreme pressure like earth moving equipment buckets. HTB or other types of hight temp bearing grease won't break down to oil like the LMM will ??

I used HTB originally but I was very surprised at how bound up the free spool became, did not function at all! I stripped it out and cleaned it all up and went to LMM and it works as it should.

As Drew states its a slow speed environment.

That part you posted mark is the Cam and is what engages the brake and sold slide freely along the centre shaft.

[megatexture]

I used a marine trailer htb in mine from memory it was blue in colour and it was a bit more stiff but manageable

[mudski]

I used HTB originally but I was very surprised at how bound up the free spool became, did not function at all! I stripped it out and cleaned it all up and went to LMM and it works as it should.

As Drew states its a slow speed environment.

That part you posted mark is the Cam and is what engages the brake and sold slide freely along the centre shaft.

That cam Darren, see in the pic it is two pieces. The centre section is in the tapered cone. The two are stuck together. I take it they are pressed together? And not supposed to come apart.
As for the grease. I am in two minds. The lmm will make it move a bit more freely, but has no water resistance. The brake on this was badly choked with dirt and rust. I might put it back together and see how it runs.

Stupid question. What will the breather achieve? The winch isn't totally water proof so water is going to get in regardless.

[MudRunnerTD]

You should be able to seal it p pretty well mate. I was able to seal up the gear box and motor and put a breather into both. If you can seal it then the LMM issue is not that it a deal mate.

[Drewboyaus]

You should be able to seal it p pretty well mate. I was able to seal up the gear box and motor and put a breather into both. If you can seal it then the LMM issue is not that it a deal mate.

x2 Mark. Silicone is your friend. Mine is sealed up nice and watertight and I added the breathers so should get fugg-all water ingress.

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[mudski]

x2 Mark. Silicone is your friend. Mine is sealed up nice and watertight and I added the breathers so should get fugg-all water ingress.

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Water will still get in where the drum meets the gear housing and motor. Theres only a Nylon sealing ring to stop the water getting through which sits in the housing. Well on my TJM thats how it is. Its all siliconed up too.
Whats the breather going to achieve anyway? Slow moving gears wouldn't produce enough vacuum to worry about it I would assume.

[Drewboyaus]

It's for heat. When the hot winch hits cold high country water you have more likelihood of water ingress without a breather.....just like your diffs.

But if you don't want to use the LMM, don't. Go with what you want to use.....

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[mudski]

It's for heat. When the hot winch hits cold high country water you have more likelihood of water ingress without a breather.....just like your diffs.

But if you don't want to use the LMM, don't. Go with what you want to use.....

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Yeah good explanation mate. Thanks. Still stewing over the grease though. :0

[menace 2]

cant you vacuum them once sealed like you would for anything else with a small compressor ?