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    Angry Front end failure

    Was coming home form recent trip on a left hand bend two kids and wife in car, camper trailer on back Hume Hwy doing 110 when car began shaking
    by the time i touched the brake did a sharp left off the road up an embankment over a few white poles and came to rest gently against the base of a
    very large tree.
    Has anyone ever seen this before ?
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    Needless to say after near death experience have lost a bit of confidence in car
    any suggestions ???

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    Glad you're ok mate, nasty experience. It looks like a faulty or worn bush...have they been replaced lately, any work been done on the suspension?
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    Yeah bugger, you are missing the nut and a very large washer the same size as that bush.

    That is the lower bush on the front Panard Rod and yes that would have sucked coming off at 100kmh.
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    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
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    Had all bushes replaced by mechanic 6 months previous cost over 1k thought i would do some prep before trip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimt View Post
    Had all bushes replaced by mechanic 6 months previous cost over 1k thought i would do some prep before trip?
    Bingo....I'd be having some words with them. I hate doing it, but after I get any work done, I go over it and check they tighten and replace correctly. We shouldn't have to, but in a lot of cases it's a wise action.
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    Had that exact failure happen at lower speeds on a dirt road, when I braked and turned to avoid a kangaroo about 6-12 mths after buying the Patrol. Luckily for me all that happened was the front end started to weave all over the place and I braked as I mounted the edge of the road. The only explanation I can think of is the idiot the car yard hired to do the road worthy placed the dished washer on the wrong way, so the poly bush loosened the nut as it swiveled. The washer should have the dish (concave) facing out towards the nut so the centre clamps tightly on metal when done up. You should go get a Tatts ticket, mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NP99 View Post
    Bingo....I'd be having some words with them. I hate doing it, but after I get any work done, I go over it and check they tighten and replace correctly. We shouldn't have to, but in a lot of cases it's a wise action.
    What? After 6 months and it is a mechanics fault.....hardly.
    Long trips should involve at least a visual inspection and a check for tension whilst on the trip.

    They are nolathane bushes too. Another good reason to junk them and use genuine rubber
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy View Post
    What? After 6 months and it is a mechanics fault.....hardly.
    Long trips should involve at least a visual inspection and a check for tension whilst on the trip.

    They are nolathane bushes too. Another good reason to junk them and use genuine rubber
    I totally agree with that Ben... before doing any big trips and also after a big trip it pays to go over the car... I like to give the car a really good clean and just take my time trying to look over everything.

    Sometimes I grab my trolley thing and have a lie down under the car for awhile just having a good slow look and a think and ponder while under there, its amazing what you can be staring at for ages before you notice something is wrong with a part.

    I am so glad you have come out of this experience unscathed...

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    Yep I agree with Bene here. A slight mechanical failure 6 months into a trip is wear and tear, especially when a plata e bushes are involved.

    Certainly a visual over the car would have identified that the nut was missing off the panard. Disapointing I know, fortunate that no one was injured certainly but I would just say Bugger! That was lucky! Get it replaced and go over the rest of your car on your 6 monthly service.

    Good luck mate. Have a great trip.
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    Wish it was Nissan though, Toyotas just can't keep up with the Pootrol pace.
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    I know its probably over the top, before a trip I do the above mentioned visual and take some spanners with me and check what I can.

    While I'm there I mark all the nuts/ to threads / to chassis etc. with a yellow paint pen.

    During the trip I slip on some overalls and have a good look, if any of the marks don't line up there is a problem.

    Last year on the Canning I found the front spring hanger bolt had moved and took a minute to tighten it and remark it.

    We ask a lot from our vehicles and they do need some TLC.

    I have been told never use those poly type bushes. Always fit OEM rubber and they don't need or like grease.

    Experienced 2 poly bushe fails on the Canning too.

    Glad you and your family are OK, and get the car repaired so you can trust it again.
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