Outback Ideas Recovery points

[MudRunnerTD]

3rogs this thread and Squalos questions have migrated over from P4x4. All he is asking you to do is show case your product. No answer is the wrong answer mate

[threedogs]

I make the "Bush Hoop" using a M20 eye bolt that is fully welded to a laser cut piece of 12mm x 250 grade mild steel with a 20,5 hole cut in the centre to a piece of 50x50x3 RHS.
Its assembled using a 20MM spring washer and HT nut sometimes I use a Nyloc M20 nut. this is tightened using a rattle gun.
Of the 1500 or so I have sold not one has failed in the field,
Originally because these were so strong we, as in NATA and me put a SWL of 20,000LB on it but That exceeded the tow capacity of any 4wd on the market
so I decided to reduce it to keep in line with other tow points . I then had it destruction tested and the 50x50x3mm RHS split where the pin goes in.
I'll stand by this as a very strong rear recovery point. Most ppl use the billet and shackle or just the pin in the class 2 receiver. I'll dig out the tested one ond put a picture here.
Of all the recovery points on the market I believe only mine are tested and made right here in Melbourne. I cannot vouch for any others at this stage.

Edit Others that are made with the hook only use 1.5 -2mm rhs I have not made any for years now

[Family4x4]

http://www.nata.com.au/nata/

for people who are unsure of who NATA is.

[Squalo]

That sounds like a pretty secure arrangement to me. Thanks John.

[Hodge]

I'll just say one thing here. Way before I bought a patrol, and way before I joined this forum and found out who John is and what he makes... When recovery points were talked about, Outback ideas are the only ones always recommended. I linger on a few other 4x4 forums and that name is the recovery point norm as far as I've seen.
Even a big brand shop bloke swayed me from buying their ones and said mate forget all these, go straight to TJM and pick up a set of out back ideas points as they're the only ones properly tested on the market that he was aware of. So I listened.

[threedogs]

Ok I've been toying with this for a few years , but now I'd like some input .
As you can imagine its hard to make one front recovery point that will suit all model GU's and GQ's,
with all the different bar/motor combo's available. The one pictured will fit every Patrol made,
Yeah I hear you say, It bolts up to the shipping tie down point using one OE captive nut and drilling two more maybe
12 mm holes . So it will have 3 bolts holding it, only downside is the size of shackle you can use. IMO this position would be fine, so any of your thoughts are welcome.

[Winnie]

My only thought is a lot of people will shy away because of the drilling.

[TPC]

My only thought is a lot of people will shy away because of the drilling.

I agree, being a lazy bastard I would not want to have to drill holes.
Already have mine though so I am happy.

[threedogs]

your not drilling the chassis as such , as I said only toying with the idea
And by drilling and added two extra bolts it would make it very strong

[lhurley]

could it not be longer to fit a larger shackle?