OUR VIDEOS GALLERY MEMBER SPONSORSHIP VENDOR SPONSORSHIP

User Tag List

Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 57

Thread: CRD Engine failure

  1. #21
    Advanced
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Provent oil seperator boots.

    After days of cleaning and inspecting, its looking like the oil pump lost some pressure, of the 11 screws and two bolts fixing it, 2 where missing another 3 hanging on by a couple of threads , another 4 where down but loose and only the 2 bolts and 2 screws, all in a row at the bottom of the pump were tight. The top of the pump had come away and I could slide a feeler guage under it, so not sealing. I think it was still pumping but had lost some pressure. Oil was probably still getting around the engine and up to the head and gravity doing its work from there. However at the bottom of the block, beneath each piston is an upward pointing piston oiler tube. Oil should shoot up out of these under pressure and lubricate the piston and rings. The pistons have oil gallerys in them that go up to the rings to keep then oiled.
    Piston 3 had rings jammed in piston (why I had next to no compression in 3), and wear on the sides below the rings and piston material on the cylinder walls. Piston 4 (the one that is stuffed) has a a lot more wear on the sides and piston material smeared down cylinder walls, much more than 3. I initialy thought the bores were scored but it looks like it just a layer of melted piston.
    The piston oilers for 3 and 4 are at the end of the oil line. Pressure could have dropped enough so that oil from the piston oilers on 3 & 4 wasnt reaching the pistons.
    The rest of the engine looks well lubricated. Bearings and head dont look like they've been running dry.
    The alluminium from piston 4 that melted and disintegrated then found its why into everything, the ports on the head (Cyl 4) and the exhaust manifold look like they have been sprayed on the inside with a layer of liquid aluminium. This has then gone from the exhaust manifold into the turbo and its inlet is full of it and siezed.
    Ground up piston in sump and throughout engine, however because its soft it doest look to have done any damage to crank or cams etc.
    The 2 missing screws were found in the bottom of the motor mashed up and these have damaged one of the camshaft drive gears and the idler gear that links the 2 camshafts.
    No obvious sign of how coolant got into oil, either heat warped the head or in internal crack I cant see. Have checked head for flatness and is within tolerance, no damage to head gasket.
    Read nissan manual up on the oil pressue light and this only comes on when pressure is near zero.
    The point where the pump lost just enough pressure not to lubricate the back two pistons would happen very quicky, its not that they would be getting oil gradualy less and less. One second they are getting oil the next there not, and with the pistons doing 2000 odd rpm things go downhill quick.
    From what Ive read, loose oil pumps bolts is a problem on the first CRDs and some failed early and got new engine under warranty.
    Should have been a recall for this! But can you imagine them recalling every patrol for an engine out and stripdown to check and torque down properly.
    Out of interest no sign of loctite on bolts.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GeeYouCRD For This Useful Post:

    boots (21st January 2014), megatexture (21st January 2014)

  3. #22
    Advanced
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Parksy, Ive spent about 2 days on cleaning that crud out the intake and the head, carby cleaner seems to work the best.
    No way that cruds going back into a new or rebuilt motor.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to GeeYouCRD For This Useful Post:

    Parksy (18th January 2014)

  5. #23
    Expert
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Mount Nasura
    Posts
    215
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 48 Times in 26 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thats a bummer GeeYou, have you approched Nissan about it?
    Did a quick search and have only found a few examples where this has happened, hope its not to wide spread as I have a 2008 with just over 100000k on it! Would have for it to give up teh ghost so soon!!
    2008 GU ST Bog stock and no smoking barrels!

  6. #24
    Advanced
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    No havn't approached Nissan yet but I will be as soon as everything has been inspected so I can present them with the total damage.

  7. #25
    Patrol God threedogs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Melb
    Posts
    31,634
    Thanks
    10,350
    Thanked 9,963 Times in 7,394 Posts
    Mentioned
    113 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    no good out of the frying pan into the fire.
    not good at all I hope Nissan recognise there is a problem
    and come to the party and fix it. Hope all goes well
    This will be interesting, remember as per Goats thread,
    keep all paper work dates time everything
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

  8. #26
    Patrol God
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    brisbane
    Posts
    4,934
    Thanks
    963
    Thanked 1,830 Times in 1,250 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I feel for you mate but wouldn't hold your breath , if what you were asking Nissan for was a cheaper issue they might consider it but if they fix this out of warranty they will be opening themselves up for world of hurt.
    I'm just going on my experiences with car manufacturers and there cunningness to try to get out of every warranty issue I've had and this ones not in the warranty time. But best of luck!

  9. #27
    Advanced
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    No, Im by no means holding my breath, but well worth a try.

  10. #28
    Patrol God threedogs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Melb
    Posts
    31,634
    Thanks
    10,350
    Thanked 9,963 Times in 7,394 Posts
    Mentioned
    113 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Are you going to confront the dealer first or straight to head office??
    try to keep your cool and mention you brought the Patrol because in your opinion its the best 4x4 by none
    keep stating how disappointing a huge company like Nissan cet a thing like this through quality control.
    As with Goat get anything in writing with dates and times, Consumer affairs is not out of the question.
    Present your case being as professional as you can be, heaps of photos, plus hard evidence, Good luck
    No is not an answer its a diversion. Keep at them
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

  11. #29
    Expert Dave_H's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Whyalla S.A
    Posts
    313
    Thanks
    248
    Thanked 78 Times in 57 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sorry to hear about the motor mate, this is the first i've heard of a crd dying. Hoping mine lives a long life but will definitley be adding a few things to it now so it can be monitored.
    2008 GU6 ST 3.0 CRD Auto, 2" Lift, ARB Bullbar, IPF Spotties, Side Steps, Maxxis 980 A/T, Roof Rack.....................


  12. #30
    Advanced
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •