Cargo barrier install question.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Reading the above link in Victoria I think we are fine...
"The following comment has been provided by Vic Roads.

This issue has been blown out of all proportion. There is no reason seats that are designed to be removable cannot be removed. Doing this DOES NOT alter the seating CAPACITY of the vehicle. Seating capacity is defined by the Australian Design Rules as the maximum number of seating positions for which the vehicle is DESIGNED - ie not the number of seats actually fitted at any point in time.

The Vehicle Standards Instruction L 5.0 has been provided by Queensland Transport and is reproduced in part:
For vehicles fitted with quick release seating attachments as original equipment, temporary removal of the seats is acceptable. A Modification Plate does not need to be fitted. This is commonly the case for four wheel drives and people movers.
For vehicles fitted with bolt in seating structures, no approval by an Approved Person is necessary for the temporary removal of seats, provided the category of the vehicle does not change as a result of the seating reduction.
Vehicles with the permanent removal of seating structures must be approved by an Approved Person and a Modification Plate must be fitted for the reduction in seating capacity. In this circumstance, any change in vehicle category must also be taken into consideration prior to the fitting of the Modification Plate. The vehicle operator's insurance company and Queensland Transport should be advised of relative changes to the vehicle."


Never really thought about this TBH. My rear seats are lonnnnng gone.

Yes I have also read that for VIC but its still a grey area, and that above in bold is the grey area. What do they define as permanent removal of seating structures?

[liftlid]

I guess you would need to be able to prove you could put the seats and belts back in, I have been road worthyied on the side of the road and they didn't even look, if you needed a road worthy to sell or remove canary then you might need seats put back in.

[mudski]

Maybe its something they don't know about? I got my Patrol roadied without the seats in.

[Winnie]

Maybe its something they don't know about? I got my Patrol roadied without the seats in.

Same here, twice at two different places.

[liftlid]

More like the bloke didn't realise it was a 7 seater.

[mudski]

More like the bloke didn't realise it was a 7 seater.

Maybe, but I still have the seat belts hanging in the back. Yeah I'm lazy....

[liftlid]

Maybe, but I still have the seat belts hanging in the back. Yeah I'm lazy....

You could argue that because the belts are still in the removal of the seats was not permanent, in any case the whole 5/7 seat notion is silly as draws can be easily removed if more seating is needed.

[liftlid]

Just found on the VIC roads web site that you do not need an "approval certificate" if the number of original seating positions was less than 10

[threedogs]

@ Mudski just un bolt the belts and poke them down that top slit in moulding.
PITB hanging there IMO