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    I think I've made a decision on my choice of suspension lift.
    after careful and long consideration, (for now) i have decided to go with the Suspension stuff Ultra flexy coils and Mono-tube shocks.
    Dilemma is now the other stuff on offer. Yes i know springs and shocks are all you need but will the other options help with ride and drivebility.

    $1,690.00
    2" Flexy Coil Monotube Shock Kit for Nissan Patrol GQ GU


    WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE KIT-

    Front and Rear Suspension Stuff Ultra Flexy Coils
    Suspension Stuff Mono-tube Shocks - can be changed to Amada Xtremes or Tough Dogs for an extra $60
    Brake hose for the rear (If you have ABS an extra front brake hose $65 see below)
    Brake bias bracket
    Diff breather hose
    Sway bar extension brackets for the rear for GU only

    So we select the correct coils please select at the bottom your vehicle details. This flexy kit is fully upgradeable so you can select your upgrades at the bottom also.

    This kit includes everything you need except for the options in red.

    If you want something out of the ordinary with this kit you can leave a note in the comments section of your request.


    BUMP STOPS

    You won't need to worry about front or rear bump stops unless they are damaged on your vehicle. The front bump stops have a habit of breaking off an inch short. If they are broken you need to buy some or you will stuff your shocks.



    SWAY BAR LINK PINS
    We supply sway bar extension brackets for the rear if you have a GU. They are not required on the front of a GU or for a GQ.

    Please read about your options and than go to the bottom and answer the required questions so we can supply you with the correct products. Please also select what additional products you might want.

    OPTIONAL EXTRAS
    + $170 for Rubber Castor Correction Bushes (See below for advice)
    + $110 for a Suspension Stuff Steering Damper
    + $300 for a Mecaval Drag Link
    + $340 for a Comp Spec Drag Link
    + $320 for strong lower trailing arms

    If you have ABS please let us know as you will need different hoses plus it will cost an extra $65. The rear one comes in the kit. You would get a new passenger centre front brake hose and you can put the existing passenger centre front brake hose on the front drivers side.

    Freight is free in Vic, NSW, Qld up to Cairns, Adelaide and Perth and $50 to Tasmania. If you live outside these areas please ask for a quote.

    FLEXY COILS

    Suspension Stuff Ultra flexy coils have been perfected. They have a ride height of a 2" lift and the flex of a 5" lift for both front and rear.

    Flexy Coils are made out of a micro alloy high tensile steel which is about 20% higher tenisile then other coil manufacturers. The variable spring rate allows a comfortable ride with less body roll then a regular coil. They also can carry heavier loads without sagging so they are ideal for touring and we warranty them for 5 years.

    Front coils have a 270-290lb spring rate at ride height depending on how much weight you have on the front.
    The rear coils have an approx 290lb spring rate at ride height if you are a wagon, 250lb if you have a ute, 330lbs with a bit of load and a 400lb spring rate with a lot of load so no matter how much weight you have on the vehicle you have the perfect spring rate. The increase to a 400lb spring rate does help stability off road.

    Please let me know what accessories you have by selecting your details at the bottom. Accessories to consider are dual batteries, winch, steel bull bar, gas tank, draws, fridge, big family, rear bar, larger fuel capacity, roof rack with gear and whether you want the coils to suit what you are towing or not so I can select the appropriate coils for your application.



    SUSPENSION STUFF MONOTUBE SHOCKS - April 2013 version

    The lengths are 625mm to 375mm extended up front measured from mount to mount and 745 to 435mm on the rear

    There are 3 different rear shock valvings depending on what constant loads you have. We will make the selection for you based upon what constant loads you select.

    We have re-designed our Suspension Stuff Mono-tube Shocks again from April 2013, There is a significant improvement compared to our old mono-tube shocks and compared to any other shock on the market. We now boast the most comfortable shocks in any terrain at any speed and with any load.



    In point form this is what you can expect compared to any other shock on the market. It might sound too good to be true but believe every word:-

    More comfortable initial bump, medium size bump or large hit at both low and high speed

    Less body roll when hooking it into corners

    Less likely to bottom out even when launching vehicle

    Less fade even on corrugated roads or when towing

    More travel than any other shock

    Safer with better braking performance because the tyres are on the ground more

    5 year warranty for 2” lift or 2 years for bigger lifts



    The shocks are perfect for:-

    Corrugated roads

    Highway driving

    100km/hr pot holes and rough roads

    Rough off road driving

    Hard Cornering

    Heavy Loads or towing

    Shopping centre speed bumps

    Ideal for people with pinched nerves and bad backs etc.



    The reason why a mono-tube or remote reservoir shock performs better than a twin tube shock is because of the very high gas pressure always pushing against the oil not allowing the oil to fill with air bubbles. This means we can run bendy shims and high flow pistons so the shock can move rapidly resulting in a comfortable ride especially at high speed. The hard thing to acheive is a comfortable initial bump while all this is taking place. Problem solved, that's all you need to know for now.

    CASTOR CORRECTION

    Castor Correction Bushes are not included in the kit because at least half my customers don't bother. If you notice the vehicle wandering a bit on uneven roads or turning under braking then it is a must to get a set. I think it is a good idea anyway because it will track straighter with less driver input with them fitted. We only sell the rubber castor correction bushes because poly bushes won't last as long if you go off road, they transfer more road vibration and reduce flex by quite a lot.

    BRAKE BIAS BRACKET

    At the rear above your diff there is a device that decreases brake bias at the rear when your Patrol pitches forward during heavy braking. It's the thing with the spring attached to it above your rear diff. You need this so you don't skid when there is less ground pressure at the rear tyres. The bracket brings things back to normal otherwise you will be driving around with reduced rear brake effectiveness.

    BRAKE LINES

    You get a new brake hose with the kit for the rear and you can put your existing rear one up front.
    If you have ABS you need another brake hose for the centre front and you can put the centre fron ABS line on the drivers side front. If you wanted all 3 new brake hoses leave a not in the comments section.

    BELOW NOT INCLUDED IN KIT

    ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK

    These are not included in the kit. Generally people don't purchase these with the 2" lift kit however your steering wheel does go off centre. This is fixed with an adjustable drag link or your mechanic can pull your steering wheel off and rotate it until it is straight again. This can be more difficult though with GU Wagons because they have air bags which need to be disconnected before work is carried out. +$350

    Your drag link is often the first point of contact in the bush and some people purchase the drag link for strength.

    ADJUSTABLE PAN HARD RODS

    99% of people don't bother about these for a 2" lift. They are used to centre your tyres after the lift is completed so when you notice your tyres sitting out a bit more one way this is the solution. +$530 for every vehicle except GU Series 2+ Wagons which are $630 for the pair.

    LOWER FIXED LENGTH CONTROL/TRAILING ARMS

    Your stock trailing arms are very weak and if you bend them they brake very quickly and cause a lot of damage. +$330
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    Well after more advise from certain members, I'm not sure now.
    I've also heard a couple stories of spring not seating properly after full flex.
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    Looking at Superior and the Profender superflex 2" lift kit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGOMONSTER View Post
    Looking at Superior and the Profender superflex 2" lift kit
    That looks like a good kit. I'm going 2" ome nitro charger shocks and ome springs. Got quoted around $1100 with a damper.

    I have yet to hear anything bad about ome stuff. I looked at the ultra flex coils, but I have read far to many bad reviews on them plus they are $700 as opposed to $500 for most other decent springs
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    do you have to change anything else on the car if you put a 2inch light on the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by kouks92 View Post
    do you have to change anything else on the car if you put a 2inch light on the car
    Not really mate. Castor will be a bit out but it's debatable whether you'd do anything about it with a 2 inch lift. I haven't bothered.

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    [QUOTE=MEGOMONSTER;420687]

    WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE KIT-

    Front and Rear Suspension Stuff Ultra Flexy Coils
    Suspension Stuff Mono-tube Shocks - can be changed to Amada Xtremes or Tough Dogs for an extra $60
    Brake hose for the rear (If you have ABS an extra front brake hose $65 see below)
    Brake bias bracket
    Diff breather hose
    Sway bar extension brackets for the rear for GU only


    Are the Amada Xtremes worth the money for a tourer?
    Last edited by GU_Mick; 18th November 2013 at 01:45 PM.

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    [QUOTE=GU_Mick;448626]
    Quote Originally Posted by MEGOMONSTER View Post

    WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE KIT-

    Front and Rear Suspension Stuff Ultra Flexy Coils
    Suspension Stuff Mono-tube Shocks - can be changed to Amada Xtremes or Tough Dogs for an extra $60
    Brake hose for the rear (If you have ABS an extra front brake hose $65 see below)
    Brake bias bracket
    Diff breather hose
    Sway bar extension brackets for the rear for GU only


    Are the Amada Xtremes worth the money for a tourer?
    Good question.
    Are you suggesting they are overkill for a tourer/daily drive. And better suited to a 4x4 track.
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    [QUOTE=GU_Mick;448626]
    Quote Originally Posted by MEGOMONSTER View Post

    WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE KIT-

    Front and Rear Suspension Stuff Ultra Flexy Coils
    Suspension Stuff Mono-tube Shocks - can be changed to Amada Xtremes or Tough Dogs for an extra $60
    Brake hose for the rear (If you have ABS an extra front brake hose $65 see below)
    Brake bias bracket
    Diff breather hose
    Sway bar extension brackets for the rear for GU only


    Are the Amada Xtremes worth the money for a tourer?
    Note the Superior have just released a new 2" lift shock branded Amada. They are not the remote reservoir shock and you should check what your getting for the $60. ?? If they are not the remotes I would not necessarily upgrading to them as they are a little unknown.

    Also check to see if that is $60 per corner so an extra $240 which would make sense.

    I still think the Old Man Emu is a Bargain based on the prices above.
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    Question. Mono shocks.
    Are they a shock better suited for off roading and less as a daily driver or same same.

    Question.
    Are they a better shock than the others.

    Question.
    Will I be happier with mono shocks for the rough stuff.
    Do I buy shocks suited for offroad ing or capable shocks for daily driving.

    I figure the first as I would rather have a car suited for anything the world throws under me than for what it will be used the majority of the time.
    Or am I thinking about this too much.
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