MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up

[NissanGQ4.2]

Gotcha, have never heard of a track classification system for dse / parks, shame it never got off the ground

I have a mate thats right into Mountain Bike riding esp downhill riding, we use to live next door to each other a couple of suburbs away from where I am now, there is some bushland that goes down the mountain side just down the road which over the years got turned into a downhill track about 1 year ago now council came along and erected no mountain bike riding signs on the track!. He has worked long and hard to get permission off council to find somewhere local and finally got permission to built a track at another location that wasn't 2 far away. Mind you this was one area that was closed down to 4wd access many years ago

Its not just four wheel drivers coping it these days!

[Winnie]

About 4 years ago we rolled out a Track Classification system in Victoria. then the DSE and Parks vic ran out of money and it all got put in a Drawer. Unfortunately they really missed an opportunity to engage the 4x4 community as their classification system went from Green, Blue, Black Double Black, from memory. the problem is that the Double Black is where we want to Start not finish! and it did not take much to make a track into a Double Black. it was a Mess. Because the system ends at double Black there is simply no way of grading say a Double Black (DB) level 1 track (Just a DB) that you'd get through if you were trying hard enough in an AWD Soft Roader and the Extreme end at say DB9 where there should be an obstruction that requires a certain level of vehicle and driver to attempt even to get on the track.

They chose to leve it as just DB! I lobbied hard to ad the numerical grading to the DB to give the system some level of perspective but they were not listening! What they Wanted! and what they Got was a system that would allow them to provide an Iconic 4WD Track system in Victoria that could be graded as Blue and allow every Mum and Dad in their AWD Territories to tackle with the kids on the weekends! What a Waste.

So i am a Certified Track Classifier. Did the Course. Got the certificate. Never got off the ground.

Well with your certification, what would you rate Barkly river Jeep tk?

[MudRunnerTD]

Well with your certification, what would you rate Barkly river Jeep tk?

Well the System will certify it as a Double Black Track! If they adopted a numerical scale of DB1 through to DB10 being the most extreme I reckon BRJT would be about a DB6 or DB7 because its drivable without a winch stage.

[Winnie]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao

[taslucas]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao

which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

[Winnie]

which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

And Kriso got up in a completely stock, unlifted, skinny tired maverick!

[taslucas]

And Kriso got up in a completely stock, unlifted, skinny tired maverick!

which shows that obviously fords are better than nissans!

[MudRunnerTD]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao

which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

Clearly!

And the ranking system was always on an assumed Dry Track. So Brewry would be a BD6 too and drivable in the dry with ATs on but a 3 or 4 stage winch in the wet! How do you put that on a sign!

[Winnie]

I attempted it in the wet. Got 50m up and went to set the winch up and had a think about it, the cars that were with me were certainly not up to the task! So we backed down (which was a mission in itself)

[taslucas]

Clearly!

And the ranking system was always on an assumed Dry Track. So Brewry would be a BD6 too and drivable in the dry with ATs on but a 3 or 4 stage winch in the wet! How do you put that on a sign!

going through a similar thing with a mate at the moment. He just got a dual cab hilux (yeah i know) and ive taken him on pretty much the same few tracks in the same area 3 weekends in a row. First weekend he said "these things are way better than patrols, it goes anywhere!" (i didnt have the heart to tell him i was taking all the easiest tracks and it was fairly dry) and each weekend since its been raining flat out and getting slowy harder and harder. We are going out tomorrow and i plan on having a proper play (because two other trol mates are coming to help me out if bogged lol) and old mate in the hilux is gonna have a hard time of it i reckon