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    Mine needs an upgrade I'll talk to someone in the know next week ,to see what they say.
    Save these rotors an machine so no down time, next pad change
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearcey View Post
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    Different material combinations give different performance also different brand combinations
    It`s all experimentation,I have allways run genuine disc`s and Bendix pads.
    Heat is your enemy but it can be used to your advantage if you know what temps you run at, then find a pad ,disc combo to suit.
    This is all race teck, but with an infra red thermometer you can get some idea of where your at.
    I guess it's all compromise. I recall fitting 'green' Ferodo racing linings to a Triumph motorcycle twin leader front brake. Fantastic braking performance once hot, but useless when cold. Finding something which provides good all round performance is more difficult. I have an infrared thermometer but not the knowhow to use it's results. Can you but pads for specific temperature ranges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    I guess it's all compromise. I recall fitting 'green' Ferodo racing linings to a Triumph motorcycle twin leader front brake. Fantastic braking performance once hot, but useless when cold. Finding something which provides good all round performance is more difficult. I have an infrared thermometer but not the knowhow to use it's results. Can you but pads for specific temperature ranges?

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    When you know your temp range and the type of disc your running, IE type of material the disc is made from it`s just a matter of contacting a pad maker and talk to them. There are a lot more material compounds than just the commercial ones. Bendix head office is in Ballarat and you can talk to their Technical dept

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearcey View Post
    When you know your temp range and the type of disc your running, IE type of material the disc is made from it`s just a matter of contacting a pad maker and talk to them. There are a lot more material compounds than just the commercial ones. Bendix head office is in Ballarat and you can talk to their Technical dept
    OK, a dumb question............... how best to measure the temp of the discs? They are not exactly accessible to point the thermometer at, & removing a wheel to do so is not very practical.

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    I replaced the rears with rda rotors and Bendix 4x4 pads, about 10000 km ago and so far very happy.
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    Cuppa are you still running split rims I can`t remember.
    Could be difficult unless your running alloys or sunraisers
    Possibly borrow a couple of wheels,but then there is the problem of different heat dissipation
    It`s not a race car so 20 Deg is not going to make that much difference.

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    Have the new Black Trak ROH steelies on now - didn't think of that, guess I can aim through the holes.

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    Done deal mate
    There are a couple of pad manufacturers in Australia so an e mail or two and see what transpires
    All have tech dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuppa View Post
    Could those who have changed from OE rotors & pads to aftermarket items comment on whether their braking performance improved & if so how & in what conditions.

    Although the brakes on my heavy Patrol are adequate, they are certainly not confidence inspiring if needing to stop quickly from speed, & I have wondered if just changing rotors & pads on the front might give some worthwhile improvement.

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    I feel the same,i often travel big km and always heading north where it is hot most days with my gq,and at times I have had to hit the brakes I wish they could stop a little better.I'll look at the calipers too I thinks.
    Watch this space, as there maybe a comment added soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by wa 489 View Post
    Guys I just noticed the front disc are starting to fracture.So looks like i'll be doing brakes next.So as there's a few sorts do I stick with the old style or go for drilled and grooved discs.Why do they fracture?
    couldn't find no answers.
    I had similar experience, GQ front discs have small cracks. I guess reason would be heavy braking. Gonna replace both discs with OEM discs.

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