it seems this can be summed up quite quickly (the greed of some) wanting camps for the elite. and (the laziness of others) who leave their shit behind for the rest of us to view and the councils or more to the point the local people to pay for the clean up. ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM change the attitude of the greedy and lazy which cannot be done. unfortunately. kev. PS CUPPA GREAT POST MORE PEOPLE WITH YOUR ATTITUDE AND WILLINGNESS COULD MAKE THIS HAPPEN.