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    Major Problem- some advice appreciated

    Apologies for the length of this.

    Recently I started a thread about the Extended Nissan Warranty. In the thread I mentioned that my Patrol was at the dealer and had a couple of problems. It had lost power and was blowing excessive black smoke when the vehicle had warmed up. The Dealer replaced the EGR pipe as it was split and cleaned the egr. I was told by them the take it for a good run because it needs to reset itself.
    Two days later I booked the vehicle back in, as it seemed to be getting worse not better. Got a call from them to say to they replaced the MAF sensor as some codes showed it was faulty, and its much better. Was again told to take it for a long run up the F3 (syd-newcastle) as it had carbon build up due to the spilt egr etc.

    Half hour later I was back at the dealership, an told them I did not feel comfortable driving this up the freeway because it is billowing black smoke and is heaps worse and did not want to risk it. Eventually they said to come back in the morning. Picked it up today and was assured it was carbon built up and to take it for a run. I told them I will call them tomorrow when I get back from the run. My wife followed me home and the smoke is worse, my wifes words were "the smoke looks greasy if the sun hits it, and once you could faintly see the colours of the light spectrum.

    So Im meant to take this for a long run (maybe a 150k round trip) (oh, the dealer has put this "take for long run" on the invoice)

    Gets better, we have dinner tonight with guests, one of which works at the dealership & happened to work on my vehicle (dead set, guys). He says its carbon, and the CDRs do smoke, yer, but not like mine does, I say. Then tells me that Nissan wont do any more as they deemed it all ok, and that if they done, for example a compression test and found something major, it would depend on the vehicles service history whether it would be warranted. Whether this statement was from Nissan or the dealer, I dont know. ( I bought this second hand in October last year).

    My vehicle is a 2010 3.0litre DX, has 95000ks and close to warranty expire. My wife and I have been sitting here discussing all the what ifs about this whole thing.

    I anit no diesel guru but I dam sure this is over fuelling, dealer says no, and claims its carbon blowing out, and now its mentioned Nissan or the dealership wont do any more.
    I should ad that I had this at another dealer ship in another state recently, had a bad fuel smell, the fuel rail or pipes were replaced, whether it is pure coincidence but the vehicle appeared to feel gutless on the odd occassion. A couple of times on the way home we did notice some smoke but was up hill and the van in tow.
    AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    If anyone has some advice with our dilemma (apart from going balistic) We both would appreciate it.

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    Don't rest. Don't let the warranty run out without an absolute outcome, good or bad you want Nissan to put it in writing that it is not their problem or fix your bloody car before the warrant expires.

    Offer to swap cars with their service manager for a week and he can tell you there is nothing wrong with it.....

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    Geez mate that's not good. Maybe worth taking it to a diesel mechanic for a second opinion, might give you an idea of what the issue actually is.

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    Normally the black smoke it over fueling normally caused by intercooler hoses split intercooler leaking or turbo vaccum hose split or off or blown turbo or maff fail. You should try a scan guage or get your boost checked
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    I have to say that I do not feel comfortable taking this for a long run tomorrow, in case something major happens, (eg, burn a hole through the piston) ,but the dealer said to and I will quote whats on the invioce I got from them today:
    "Checked all air intake hoses & air filter, all ok. Will require to have long drive to further clear any residue of carbon build up"

    My wife and I are currently on an around the country trip, and in Sydney for the xmas break and were planning to hit the road in a few weeks.
    I would hate to see how much smoke it would blow towing our van, (van colour would probably be black before we got to Liverpool)

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca86 View Post
    Normally the black smoke it over fueling normally caused by intercooler hoses split intercooler leaking or turbo vaccum hose split or off or blown turbo or maff fail. You should try a scan guage or get your boost checked
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    Maf was replaced yesterday (have invoice stating so). It says: " Ran diagnosis- found codes related to MAF sensor. Replaced sensor"
    Only last week did I mention to my wife, I wonder if the turbo is crook.
    I do have a scan gauge but is not yet installed, have been waiting for my youngest son to visit to give me and give me run down on it and set the dam thing up (I got lost on the first few pages on the instructions,lol and he lives 200ks from us)
    Last edited by ova50; 31st January 2013 at 11:34 PM. Reason: bad speeling due to alchol

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    Get it to another mechanic get the turbo checked it'll take them 2mins they check the imprella nut I think its called. Your egts will be going through the roof very bad for engine life
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    Photocopy everything,
    Diarise every conversation, telephone call etc
    Write a covering letter and attach photocopies and send to whichever is the choicest Consumer Advocate mob in your state so there is a file open.
    In the covering letter make sure you put down your concerns and what you expect as a resolution.
    CC to the dealership prncipal and Nissan Australia
    This means that a pre-existing issue is documented and remained unresolved prior to warranty expiration

    None of the above helps with the inconvenience if your engine drops its guts in the middle nowhere but will be worth it's weight in gold when your letter of demand for compensation and damages hits their desk
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    Sounds like Mr Nissan up to their old tricks,
    never give up ,never give up, never give up.

    Would be a good oppurtunity to fit boost and EGT guage
    to monitor the engine, this mod is pricless IMO.
    04 ST 3lt auto, not enough Mods to keep me happy, but getting there

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    If I were you I would be fitting that Scangauge ASAP. They are not that hard to work out. Fitting takes 2 minutes.

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