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    change the wheels and tyres from a vehicle that does not shake - I had out of round brand new Pirellis that caused that problem, and that was how I identified it, and more importantly, proved it to the tyre dealer.

    Nothing like turning up wearing a set of absolutely wrecked Hancook tyres that had lugs missing from being used in desert racing, on rusty old rims, that produced not one shake, with the new Pirellis and rims in the back to settle that argument, and end numerous trips back and forth as he tried to sort out the problem.

    Of course it could be something else, but is no cost and perhaps worth a look.
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    Just chucking in some ideas. Steering flex joint: check all the nuts are tight, sitting flush,cracks or worn lugs,pitman arm:the joint should be firm to move from side to side and no up and down movement.Steering shaft bearings.Steering column bolted tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    change the wheels and tyres from a vehicle that does not shake - I had out of round brand new Pirellis that caused that problem, and that was how I identified it, and more importantly, proved it to the tyre dealer.
    If he's going to do that he should match corner for corner. the wheels will be balanced for that position on the other vehicle. 10:1 each tyre even on a known "non wobbling" vehicle will have different weights in different positions on each wheel

    it also assumes that he's got similar suspension setup, spring height, shockers ok, dampener ok, bushes ok, no caster change etc......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    change the wheels and tyres from a vehicle that does not shake - I had out of round brand new Pirellis that caused that problem, and that was how I identified it, and more importantly, proved it to the tyre dealer.

    Nothing like turning up wearing a set of absolutely wrecked Hancook tyres that had lugs missing from being used in desert racing, on rusty old rims, that produced not one shake, with the new Pirellis and rims in the back to settle that argument, and end numerous trips back and forth as he tried to sort out the problem.

    Of course it could be something else, but is no cost and perhaps worth a look.

    been their and done that with no diffance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97_gq_lwb View Post
    Have you tried removing the shims.
    Seriously someone needs to do a complete guide to this wobble fix using all of the combined info available.
    I might have a go at it lol.
    already done that all it done was make the steering heavy still had shake

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    through the steering wheel ive had them balanced so many times from different tyre shops makes no diffance at all everything in thr front has been replaced

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    did you get an "on vehicle" balance? - a normal wheel balance off the vehicle is a waste of time compared to an on vehicle balance
    have you checked the panhard bushes?
    have you checked the arms going to your front axle, esp right hand side?
    have you checked the steering dampener (don't get an RTC as it will only mask the core problem)
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    In our local patrol forum one guy talk about the same problem after some lift. Then he put his the gear box with transfer case a little bit lower for a few centimetre and vibrations and etc. is disappeared.
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    Try Jacking up to be able to spin a wheel by hand 1 at a time.
    Study the road going surface of the tyre.
    Right across it's entire tread.
    Bet you find tyre is not round any more.
    It may be fine on 1 side and outta round on the other.
    Or even an uneven wobble, form 1 side to the other "180deg wobble"
    9/10 times, steel rims are BENT NEW direct from the factory.
    And these rims stuff you expensive tyres.

    It should be mandatory rims are proven to the owner they are precisely round.
    " Accredited " true.
    Next time you think about tyres, thinking rims also in advance might be the shot.
    My lesson, learned the hard and expensive way.

    Hope this helps ya out.
    Let us know how they look will ya please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gf0012-aust View Post
    If he's going to do that he should match corner for corner. the wheels will be balanced for that position on the other vehicle. 10:1 each tyre even on a known "non wobbling" vehicle will have different weights in different positions on each wheel

    it also assumes that he's got similar suspension setup, spring height, shockers ok, dampener ok, bushes ok, no caster change etc......
    Hmmmm........maybe. I just turned up at the dealer with the old MQ wearing some extremely ratty looking Hankook tyres and splitties, with the new tyres and rims in the back, and said, 'hop in, notice - no shakes.'

    As a result I got 5 replacements that were round and again, no shakes.

    So, what I was looking for was not other tyres that did not shake another vehicle, but other tyres that did not shake my vehicle.
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