DCEP versus DCEN stick welding

[billyj]

no need to preheat thin stuff like exhaust will just make it blow holes alot easier,

arc length is important as is rod selection, some cheap rods are just plain shit to use, cig satin craft rods are pretty nice to use and the slag will peel itself off if you get everything right but being a very runny rod their no good for vertical welds

[GQtdauto]

CIG also used to make Craft 12 which was green in colour , satincraft is blue , the Craft 12 we used to teach basic welding along with WIA 13s which are blue and white striped .
Both easy to learn with and very forgiving but the Craft 12 had a very fast weld pool freeze which made it ideal for thin stuff and out of position work such as overhead welding .
No idea why they stopped making Craft 12 but it happened when they moved the manufacture overseas .

[dom14]

no need to preheat thin stuff like exhaust will just make it blow holes alot easier,

arc length is important as is rod selection, some cheap rods are just plain shit to use, cig satin craft rods are pretty nice to use and the slag will peel itself off if you get everything right but being a very runny rod their no good for vertical welds

Yes, that is true. I just preheated the bung, 'cos bung is pretty thick, comparing to the pipe.

The rods I used weren't good quality, so that also probably explains why it was harder to get a better weld.

[dom14]

CIG also used to make Craft 12 which was green in colour , satincraft is blue , the Craft 12 we used to teach basic welding along with WIA 13s which are blue and white striped .
Both easy to learn with and very forgiving but the Craft 12 had a very fast weld pool freeze which made it ideal for thin stuff and out of position work such as overhead welding .
No idea why they stopped making Craft 12 but it happened when they moved the manufacture overseas .

The story of manufacturing industry these days. They all move into China, India, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc.
Australian car manufacturing industry is no more or pretty closer to that. It is a crappy situation.

[GQtdauto]

Yes I would hate to think how much industry and manufacturing we have lost to overseas .
As an aside once we were confident you could weld we weaned you off the Craft 12 and 13s and you used satincraft after that .