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    Quote Originally Posted by macca86 View Post
    I'd happily walk down to the creek carrying my firearms to "discuss" their options.
    Hekarewe and I were hunting on a property we had verbal permission from the owner which is legal in qld.
    Along came a off-road quad rider when we came out from our hiding spots he shat himself haha was funny he did not have permission and very quickly left
    After about the third time I genuinely thought about taking my shotgun down to the creek to "discuss" what they were doing. Then I thought what if I get put in a position where I have to use it? What do I do with their car? Will someone miss this person and come looking? I was also not sure my dead body hiding spot had room.

    So I decided on a bat, which sometimes leaves me out gunned as most of the time these blokes have a pick and shovel. So I always use the element of suprise to give me the upper hand.
    Last edited by Family4x4; 26th August 2014 at 09:40 PM.
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    So don't be fooled by the 'Private Property' but 'Public Road' scenario. Of course you respect the blokes property extra in that case. Normally people just stick up the 'Private Property' sign, which is technically correct. And the 'Public road" bit is left to those locals in the know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca86 View Post
    I'd happily walk down to the creek carrying my firearms to "discuss" their options.
    Hekarewe and I were hunting on a property we had verbal permission from the owner which is legal in qld.
    Along came a off-road quad rider when we came out from our hiding spots he shat himself haha was funny he did not have permission and very quickly left
    I thought it had to be in writing ?

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    Verbal is fine in Vic, you only need written if you intend to use it as a supporting document/reason to obtain a firearms (longarm) licence.
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    Same in qld family4x4. My genuine reason is my ssaa membership so all properties just need verbal permission. It does help to have property name and owners name and number if you are near a boundary incase a neighbour or police think you're poaching or trespassing
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    One of my neighbours had hazardous waste signs on his fence line to keep people out. I guess if you break a thermometer that's technically correct. He also went a bit far blocking an access road. He was a very agro bloke to tourists and strangers.
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    The other concern for landowners is litergation if injury occurs during access or trespass.
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    Farmers down here fence off remote seldom used tracks so they become part of their paddock.

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    My Father owned a Farm about 140 K's from Melbourne and it was amazing how many times people would just set up Camp on the property without asking permission. They would become quite aggressive when asked to leave. We found that when we had the Dogs with us we did not have many arguments.
    Another part of our property had the Coliban River running through it and we always allowed the Trout Fishermen access to the River accross the property

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    Mate has a crown road (two wheel tracks) through his property, he must allow access via that road (track), however if you deviate from the road (track easment) you are trespassing. Another mate has bought back the "paper road" that allowed public access through his property, now it is all private property. no public access.

    You need to be sure that a road/track is "crown" before you ignore a private property sign, and in NSW atleast, be sure that the crown road has not been bought back by the land owner, before you insist on your "rights". Read this re crown/paper road buy backs in NSW.

    As a matter of course we always seek permission from the land holder before entering a property, just common courtesy really. As one land owner said "how would you like it if I set up camp in your backyard?"
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