Powerful 4x4 products I purchased not of merchantable quality as they describe!!!

[Maxhead]

Any issues with that Rasslar rear bar?

Nope, all good so far mate. The best looking bit of gear i have got! Can't say the same about TJM though

[kevin07]

well being a bankstown boy i often drive past this store always thinking must get in there for a look. I WILL NO LONGER BE CURIOUS TO HAVE LOOK IN THERE. thanks guys thats what this forum is all about learning from each other finding out about the good the bad and getting rid of the shit sellers.kev

[Agronaught]

Although to be fair they were more engaging, interested and helpful than ARB.

[threedogs]

If any one has any issues with a TJM product or staff, please send me a Pm ,I'll lokk into it on your behalf.
Bear in mind they as well as ARB and Op Loc and others put up with rude customers as well.
that know nothing about their 4x4 and expect everything.

[lorrieandjas]

Hey guys - been said time and time again on many threads - but once again it seems that cheaper is cheaper for a reason. The only time I have really seen cheap = great value has been when it is a local small manufacturer who cares about their product, reputation and customers. Caveat Emptor!

Jas

[Stropp]

thats right Jas and i bought the powerfull rear bar knowing full well that was the case but at about 1/3 the price of kaymar you expect that and i was willing too take a chance, at $1200 i could not ask for anything more at the moment as its been on for several months and no issues although i did check my bar out prior to buying it so i think if i get another 5yrs it will be well worth it. Stropp

[MQ MAD]

Bear in mind they as well as ARB and Op Loc and others put up with rude customers as well.
that know nothing about their 4x4 and expect everything.

Its funny people dont really understand manufacturing or customers service,or unruly customers utter disrespect towards companies till they run,or own a business
There are shonkies everywhere,some piggy back on brand names,somes work their freckle of to compete and get a brand name out there,and some are just plain ol crooks
I run my own manufacture joint, and youll be surprised how many ,"I can do better,oh my grandson can do better "
Well theres the equipment,theres the materials , knock yourself out ....
Yet noone has taken up the challenge
Cause most people are big on the mouth ,and less big on the action ......
Think there called "Gunnas" ....
That aside, how about getting a few mates together and making the stuff for yourself,if your product is price and quality competitive , go against the larger companies
A place i worked at many years ago,if you altered by even running a grinder along one edge you void any warranties
We had a customer comin in years after a product was bought,they welded some behemoth on one side,welds looked like bird droppings, then sprayed the area with a different toned paint
Then screamed "warranty "
Only takes 1 apple to spoil the box

[mick.]

Your not paying $5000 for just the bar, its the service, warrenty, customer care and piece if mind which costs...
Pay peanuts, gets monkeys.. and the last time I was at the zoo, the monkey didn't make a good customer service person...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

Being in the fabrication business myself and a lot of our work is custom. I know personly once you have jigs made up and the price of steel there's no way in hell they would cost more then $1500 ot $2000 max with labour and material costs thats being very generous. There's no way in hell the service, warrenty, customer care and piece of mind is worth the other $3000 or more.

We build basic horse floats up to the top of the range floats with kitchens etc. Our basic 2 horse straight load floats sell for about $10,000. There is 10 to 15 times the amount of steel in them, all Australian Super gal, 20 times the amount of welding, prep, primer and paint, decals, fibreglass roof, windows, vents, padding, hardwood flooring, locks, latches, hinges, rubber and about $500 worth of wiring and lights plus labour. Oh yes we also supply great customer service, 5 year warrenties, free check up and service.

Please tell my what I'm missing because it totally has me stuffed.

[BigRAWesty]

Warranty, liabilities, insurance, postage, R & D, compliance licences..
A bull bar or rear bar ain't just a bit of square galv steel welded into a box shape and sheeted... Especially if you run airbags...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

[Clunk]

Warranty, liabilities, insurance, postage, R & D, compliance licences..
A bull bar or rear bar ain't just a bit of square galv steel welded into a box shape and sheeted... Especially if you run airbags...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

But surely the lesser makes would have to conform to the same rules as the big players..... Specially where ADRs are concerned...... All companies are subject to warranty, liability and r&d costs but most don't hike the up price to an extortionate value.

Me personally, I'd save the coin and go get a customized one from someone local, seeing as I don't have an airbag

Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....