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    Sorry guys still waiting for an example of an "illegal" mod in itself that makes the vehicle safer.

    Whilst I agree with a lot of the content in the posts (esp most of Big Rig's) here is the issue in regard to large lifts.
    Fact - the C of G of the sprung weight is now considerable higher having been raised by the lift and the (usually) increased tyre dia.
    Fact - the track is still the same or similar so the vehicle is less stable horizontally unless the track is increased usually wider offset rim
    Fact - increasing the track with larger offset rims greatly increases the strain on wheel bearings, steering and suspension components as the plane of rotation of the wheel is moved further and further away leading to premature and possibly catastrophic failures in extreme cases. The further the plane is away from the mounting axis (in our case thru the swivel bearings) the higher the effort required to "steer"

    Totally agree that a larger lift with wider track can be engineered safely and improve handling BUT it involves huge $ as the springs, shocks, anti sway geometry, rims, mounting components, steering geometry, alignment, brake discs, pad material etc etc must all be modified or strengthened as well.

    Hands up everyone who has had the brake proportioning valve checked/adjusted correctly after a lift (any lift even 2 inch) or major suspension work which greatly changes teh braking effort front to back?

    The underlying purpose of the defect system (when applied correctly and without bias) is to ensure that Mod's have been done safely and there is no way that can be done on the side of the road.

    Oh, and Yes, my truck is illegal so not having a go at anyone. What I am saying is that something that perhaps improves one area may be detrimental to stability or increase brake fade or whatever

    All I am getting at is that probably 90% or more of the "Illegal" mods out there on the road are dangerous and/or under-engineered usually because of $. Who on here hasn't done a mod or two and then driven the truck while waiting for the Cash Gods to fill up the Bank Balance so you can do "the rest".
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    I must clarify here, I said SOME mods made the car safer than factory and was not directly talking about 4x4s, sory for the missunderstanding. As on owner of a "hoon Car" I am use to the criticisum about mods to cars however I have spent big bucks on suspension and brake upgrades which in my opinion makes the car 10 times safer than factory, yet as I am a builder not a mechanic, engineer or physist can't give examples with proper backing just my uneducated opinion.
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    see can't even spell! LMOA physicist
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    Quote Originally Posted by 89gqpatrol4x4 View Post
    see can't even spell! LMOA physicist
    What's LMOA hahahahahahahahaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by 89gqpatrol4x4 View Post
    I must clarify here, I said SOME mods made the car safer than factory and was not directly talking about 4x4s, sory for the missunderstanding. As on owner of a "hoon Car" I am use to the criticisum about mods to cars however I have spent big bucks on suspension and brake upgrades which in my opinion makes the car 10 times safer than factory, yet as I am a builder not a mechanic, engineer or physist can't give examples with proper backing just my uneducated opinion.
    I suppose as a builder you could appreciate the reason plans have to be submitted and rules adhered to when building a house. Also the are certain aspects of building that can only legally be done by an authorised contractor. There has been comprehensive development year after year to set standards. They dont let anyone knock up a bit of a renovation without approved plans even if its built "stronger" or "better" than the minimal requirements of the law.... Same goes with vehicle modifications.
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    They dont let anyone knock up a bit of a renovation without approved plans even if its built "stronger" or "better" than the minimal requirements of the law.... Same goes with vehicle modifications.
    Don't come round my house then ;-)




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    Quote Originally Posted by growlers71gq View Post
    Don't come round my house then ;-)
    Fine! I wont! lmao!
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    FINE!!!!


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    We have Laws for all sections of our Lives and these Laws have been developed to ensure that Society can exist in a civilised manner and also safely.

    I dont agree with all of these Laws but I obey them because it makes for a orderly World.

    If you wish to change the Laws for Vehicle modifications lobby for these changes but just dont disobey the Laws as that is anarchy.

    Also I dont like the crtiisism of our Police and transport Officials as they have a job to do and in the main most of them are decent People.

    If you dont obey theses Laws then suffer the consequences without complaining about it.

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    Well said Bob, except for that anarchy part, I like anarchy *L*
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